Pushups (Build Muscle?) Cardio (Destroy Muscle?)

[paulx022]

okay so here it is
my idiot friend says that hes doing some "pushup program" and that he can only do 40 now or something like that and in 6 weeks can do 400 or something i dont know, but bottom line is he says that hes gonna get so so big and we got in an argument about them building muscle.
i said that there isnt enough resistance and his body weight isnt enough to make him build any size and make gains and hes doing way too many reps to adequately build muscle, i said if anything it would make him just get cut
he says it will make him huge and he'll get much bigger than me just by doing pushups even though im going to the gym every day and hitting different muscle groups every time with 4 sets with 7-9 reps max
whos right? is he right about the pushups building muscle?

and my other one is i was always told not to do cardio when i was bulking and that it would destroy muscle tissue and burn all the calories i need to build muscle, is that true?

[CajunPballer]

Cardio does not "destroy" muscle and push ups aren't the best at building muscle. You friend will not get jacked from doing all those push ups.. he will get skinnier because he probably doesn't eat right to support the cardio he's doing by all those pushups and all he will get out of it is muscle endurance.

Don't be afraid of cardio on a bulk. You need cardio to strengthen the most important muscle in your body, your heart. Just eat more calories to replace what you burn by doing cardio. But cardio is just as important as bench, squat, and dead lift.. don't let any one tell you other wise.

[dizzay20]

U can even do an hour of cardio a day and u still wont burn muscles if ur diet is sufficient.

Yes, ur friend is a tool.

[TitanFB11]

1. pushups (or any kind of muscle stimulation/fatigue for prolonged periods ) would allow for muscular growth. but not nearly as optimal results as would a more complete training routine with heavier weight/resistance) plus he wont be working any back,bis,rear/side delts and legs doing pushups. so really for putting overall mass on, no he wouldnt nearly get as big as you would (taking in you have a decent gym routine)

2. cardio dosent kill muscle at all, low calories/protein will do that. i do cardio 20min 5-6 times a week b4 breakfast on a empty stomach, and in 4 weeeks ive still managed to go from 147 to 153. its all about cals in vs cals out. you can do as much cardio as you want, but if your eating more cals then your bodys buring off, youll gain.

[yguanghuynh]

Just let him be a fool. He won't accept your advice anyways. Because he is so jacked.

[paulx022]

thanks for the help, cant wait to rub it in his stupid ass face lol
heres my workout routine too by the way

Sunday (Shoulders, Lats, Traps)
Warmup- Low pulley row to neck- low weight 1X15
Low Pulley Row to neck 3X7
Wide Grip Lat Pulldown 4X7
Dumbbell Shrug 4X7
Shoulder Press 4X7
Behind Neck Lat Pulldown 3X7
Smith Machine Shrug 4X7

Monday (Quads, Calves, Abs, Back)
Warmup- Ab Leg Raises 1X15
Leg Press 4X7
Calf Press 4X7
Squats or Hack Squats 4X7
Calf Raises 4X7
Back Machine 4X7
Ab Leg Raises 3X12

Tuesday (Biceps, Forearms, Triceps, Chest)
Warmup- Pull Ups 1X15
Bench Press 4X7
Preacher Curls w/ Bar 4X7
Tricep Pull-Downs 4X7
Cross Body Hammer Curls 4X7
Chest Machine 4X7
Barbell Wrist Curls 3X7
Tricep Pushdown 4X7
Reverse Curls 3X6

Wednesday
OFF

Thursday (Quads, Calves, Abs, Back)
Warmup- Ab Leg Raises 1X15
Leg Press 4X7
Calf Press 4X7
Squats or Hack Squats 4X7
Calf Raises 4X7
Back Machine 4X7
Ab Leg Raises 3X12

Friday (Biceps, Forearms, Triceps, Chest)
Warmup- Pull Ups 1X15
Bench Press 4X7
Preacher Curls w/ Bar 4X7
Tricep Pull-Downs 4X7
Cross Body Hammer Curls 4X7
Chest Machine 4X7
Barbell Wrist Curls 3X7
Tricep Pushdown 4X7
Reverse Curls 3X6

Saturday
OFF

[keosan24]

i believe your talking about the one hundred push up program?
he wont get as big as you

[Kirch21]

i believe your talking about the one hundred push up program?
he wont get as big as you

tell him to bet you a tub of protein haha. easy free tub!

[musclejunki3]

looks like you are over training with that routine. for a beginner id do a 3 day split something like

mon
back bis

wed
legs shoulders

fri
chest tris

sat , sun light cardio


and focus on your diet eat HUGEEEEEEEEEEE!!! use a cal counter program to keep up with how much your eating


good luck



edit: i didnt put in what to do for each day but add 4 - 5 things for each day. make sure to incorporate your big 3 lifts. Deadlifts, Squats, Bench

[keosan24]

tell him to bet you a tub of protein haha. easy free tub!

Lol, tell him to bet 2 and everybody wins

[SeanP35]

i believe your talking about the one hundred push up program?
he wont get as big as you

It is very likely the person he is arguing with is already bigger...

Pushups will build muscle, just not as much as other exercises.

[keosan24]

yeah pushups will build muscle but only in a certain area

[SeanP35]

yeah pushups will build muscle but only in a certain area

Wow, you're uneducated as all hell. Pushups work your chest, shoulders, back, and legs...

No kidding.

[bmy-]

To much cardio releases catabolic hormones..

Wow, you're uneducated as all hell. Pushups work your chest, shoulders, back, and legs...

No kidding.

And abs

[ShowNoLove]

and focus on your diet eat HUGEEEEEEEEEEE!!! use a cal counter program to keep up with how much your eating

whooa so theres a cal counter program?? like to use on comps?? lol if yes then lemme know some names so i can find one aha, i been counting mine by calculator =/ lol

[Panabol]

whooa so theres a cal counter program?? like to use on comps?? lol if yes then lemme know some names so i can find one aha, i been counting mine by calculator =/ lol

www.fitday.com

[paulx022]

It is very likely the person he is arguing with is already bigger...

Pushups will build muscle, just not as much as other exercises.

first. no they wont
second. your not big either so shut up he weighs 160 and hes 0% big hes just normal sized i can lift 20-30 lbs more than him on everything

[tim34lumnewb]

that push up program is called 100 pushups
each week u do 3 days of pushups with increased sets through out the few weeks and reps every program day which is Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

[__Iceman__]

Well he's 90% wrong. He will get a bit stronger and probably put on a little more defined mass, but he's not going to get huge. And he's probably doing the 100 pushup programme. It's much more about endurance than it is strength. I am much stronger now than when I did the pushup programme, but I probably can't even do 40 pushups anymore. And you should be eating more bro. You seem to have the basics of how you're supposed to be lifting, but you're pretty skinny.

[steelers1377]

you are overtraining, pick a different split.

or since you are just starting pick a more strength/size focused workout with more compound movements.

[SeanP35]

first. no they wont
second. your not big either so shut up he weighs 160 and hes 0% big hes just normal sized i can lift 20-30 lbs more than him on everything

I outweigh you by 60 pounds - don't ever bother calling me "not big" again.

You are an utter idiot if you believe pushups don't build any muscle.

[paulx022]

I outweigh you by 60 pounds - don't ever bother calling me "not big" again.

You are an utter idiot if you believe pushups don't build any muscle.

god you are a retard sir.
your not big maybe a big ***get but your not muscular at all and pushup dont build muscle jackass the make you cut, anything above like 20 reps even 15 doesnt build muscle it tears your muscle fibers and they grow back NOT BIGGER because of the reps they grow back better to endure the weight thats why they look cut cockass

[paulx022]

Well he's 90% wrong. He will get a bit stronger and probably put on a little more defined mass, but he's not going to get huge. And he's probably doing the 100 pushup programme. It's much more about endurance than it is strength. I am much stronger now than when I did the pushup programme, but I probably can't even do 40 pushups anymore. And you should be eating more bro. You seem to have the basics of how you're supposed to be lifting, but you're pretty skinny.

i know im skinny but i eat 4000-4500 calories a day and it looks like youve never picked up a weight in your life so yeah i know im skinny but at least im doing work in the gym every day

[CajunPballer]

god you are a retard sir.
your not big maybe a big ***get but your not muscular at all and pushup dont build muscle jackass the make you cut, anything above like 20 reps even 15 doesnt build muscle it tears your muscle fibers and they grow back NOT BIGGER because of the reps they grow back better to endure the weight thats why they look cut cockass

Hmm.. I don't really KNOW for sure who's right, but Sean really knows his ****.. so I think he's right. Just sayen.

[dizzay20]

some1s trollin....but who....?

[Robination]

god you are a retard sir.
your not big maybe a big ***get but your not muscular at all and pushup dont build muscle jackass the make you cut, anything above like 20 reps even 15 doesnt build muscle it tears your muscle fibers and they grow back NOT BIGGER because of the reps they grow back better to endure the weight thats why they look cut cockass

[paulx022]

Hmm.. I don't really KNOW for sure who's right, but Sean really knows his ****.. so I think he's right. Just sayen.

yeah if he knew what the **** he was talking about then he'd know that pushups dont build muscle i made this thread to prove that point and another thing if he knew what he was talking about he'd be alot bigger because he'd know what to do

[allawi]

you might have a point on certain things , but the truth is that push ups do build muscle to a certain extent

[woodenpints]

thanks for the help, cant wait to rub it in his stupid ass face lol
heres my workout routine too by the way

Sunday (Shoulders, Lats, Traps)
Warmup- Low pulley row to neck- low weight 1X15
Low Pulley Row to neck 3X7
Wide Grip Lat Pulldown 4X7
Dumbbell Shrug 4X7
Shoulder Press 4X7
Behind Neck Lat Pulldown 3X7
Smith Machine Shrug 4X7

Monday (Quads, Calves, Abs, Back)
Warmup- Ab Leg Raises 1X15
Leg Press 4X7
Calf Press 4X7
Squats or Hack Squats 4X7
Calf Raises 4X7
Back Machine 4X7
Ab Leg Raises 3X12

Tuesday (Biceps, Forearms, Triceps, Chest)
Warmup- Pull Ups 1X15
Bench Press 4X7
Preacher Curls w/ Bar 4X7
Tricep Pull-Downs 4X7
Cross Body Hammer Curls 4X7
Chest Machine 4X7
Barbell Wrist Curls 3X7
Tricep Pushdown 4X7
Reverse Curls 3X6

Wednesday
OFF

Thursday (Quads, Calves, Abs, Back)
Warmup- Ab Leg Raises 1X15
Leg Press 4X7
Calf Press 4X7
Squats or Hack Squats 4X7
Calf Raises 4X7
Back Machine 4X7
Ab Leg Raises 3X12

Friday (Biceps, Forearms, Triceps, Chest)
Warmup- Pull Ups 1X15
Bench Press 4X7
Preacher Curls w/ Bar 4X7
Tricep Pull-Downs 4X7
Cross Body Hammer Curls 4X7
Chest Machine 4X7
Barbell Wrist Curls 3X7
Tricep Pushdown 4X7
Reverse Curls 3X6

Saturday
OFF

Deadlifts, more emphasis on squats, etc..