Onion Juice triples Testosterone?

[newequation]

Actually its 6,600gms worth of Onion Juice per day for 180 lb person. Get creative, thats 6 kilos of juice or roughly 231 ounces.

I'm no math wizard here, but I think your numbers are way off. And there is nothing to say that a positive effect cannot be had with much more sensible doses.

[Yates Row T]

math looks good to me.



edit i was talking about the math 6 kilos equaling 231 oucnes which is correct

[buzzboy]

I dont know whats up with bashing onion juice

[LegosInMyEgos]

I'm no math wizard here, but I think your numbers are way off. And there is nothing to say that a positive effect cannot be had with much more sensible doses.

yea its off

[homerunrbi]

Its just not practical.

How? Its only 41 grams. You don't even really have to drink the juice, just use some onions in food you make daily.

The breathe must be great tho.

Nothing some peppermint tea can't handle

Actually its 6,600gms worth of Onion Juice per day for 180 lb person. Get creative, thats 6 kilos of juice or roughly 231 ounces.

Your math is way off. It says 0.5 GRAMS per KG of bodyweight. So for a 180 lb person thats only 42 grams of onion juice a day.

[THEHUGE]

If we adjust the dose for a HED(human equivalent dose) using the BSA (body surface area) we get roughly 6 grams for a human being( yes, just 6 grams)

[JornT]

Nothing some peppermint tea can't handle

That would likely defeat the purpose:



Food Chem Toxicol. 2008 Dec;46(12):3563-70. Epub 2008 Aug 31.

Spearmint induced hypothalamic oxidative stress and testicular anti-androgenicity in male rats - altered levels of gene expression, enzymes and hormones.
Kumar V, Kural MR, Pereira BM, Roy P.

Department of Biotechnology, Indian Institute of Technology Roorkee, Roorkee 247 667, Uttarakhand, India.

Mentha spicata Labiatae, commonly known as spearmint, can be used for various kinds of illnesses in herbal medicines and food industries. One of the prominent functions of this plant extract is its anti-androgenic activity. The present study investigated the probable correlation between oxidative stress in hypothalamic region and anti-androgenic action of this plant's aqueous extract on rats. Decreased activities of enzymes like superoxide dismutase, catalase, glutathione peroxidase and glutathione reductase in hypothalamus of treated rats indicated spearmint induced oxidative stress. Further RT-PCR and immunoblot analysis demonstrated the decreased expression of some of the steroidogenic enzymes, cytochrome P450scc, cytochrome P450C17, 3beta-Hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (3beta-HSD), 17beta-Hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (17beta-HSD) and other related proteins like, steroidogenic acute regulatory protein, androgen receptor and scavenger receptor class B-1. Further, in vitro enzyme assays demonstrated depressed activities of testicular 3beta-HSD and 17beta-HSD enzymes. Histopathology indicated a decreased sperm density in cauda epididymis and degeneration of ductus deference. Our study suggested that spearmint probably induced oxidative stress in hypothalamus resulting in decreased synthesis of LH and FSH which in turn down-regulated the production of testicular testosterone through the disruption of a number of intermediate cascades.

PMID: 18804513 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

[LegosInMyEgos]

If we adjust the dose for a HED(human equivalent dose) using the BSA (body surface area) we get roughly 6 grams for a human being( yes, just 6 grams)

Explain please (srs)

[JJ22]

Explain please (srs)

You can't use rat dosages and expect the same effect in humans.

[NO HYPE]

You can't use rat dosages and expect the same effect in humans.

Either way, gastrostomy feeding tube insertions sounds like fun to me.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...1&postcount=20

[Sldge]

I'm no math wizard here, but I think your numbers are way off. And there is nothing to say that a positive effect cannot be had with much more sensible doses.

Come on guys, this is the science section, youre supposed to know this. VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV V

If we adjust the dose for a HED(human equivalent dose) using the BSA (body surface area) we get roughly 6 grams for a human being( yes, just 6 grams)

Thank you sir!

So as I said, 231 ounces is a TON of onion juice to drink per day. But who ever is doing it Id love to see some youtube videos of people drinking 231 ounces of that per day. Please link them here.

[G.W. Hayduke]

So as I said, 231 ounces is a TON of onion juice to drink per day. But who ever is doing it Id love to see some youtube videos of people drinking 231 ounces of that per day. Please link them here.

In liquid form it's a ton. How about dehydrated? That could make for a decent supplement.

[Guardian]

If someone was able to identify the exact compound in onion juice that gives the benefit, isolate it, freeze dry and compact it, and put in in capsule for supplement it could be an idea?

[allofthisforyou]

If someone was able to identify the exact compound in onion juice that gives the benefit, isolate it, freeze dry and compact it, and put in in capsule for supplement it could be an idea?

Could be? Sounds like an idea to me

I'd drink the juice (obv. not 6 liters) if I saw some studies done on people rather than rats. They wouldn't even have to be studies, just positive results on post-bloodwork from a handful of guys--that were drinking 500 mLs, or less, of it.

As far as the original question goes: it's called a shot glass. Just be a man and slam that sh!t. Bite on a lime afterwards if you feel like puking.

[Bane]

Garlic is also a tremendously strong testosterone booster. Unfortunately you will never be able to get the active in a shelf-stored product, no matter how airtight it is

[Runner710]

I fully agree with everyone. It was an excellent post. Thank you.

[Dfontano]

Man, I think that would be awful having to drink straight onion juice. To get fish oil supplements you wouldn't lick a fish, would you? Just kidding : ) What I would do is make a soup with it. There are lots of good soup recipes you could make using onion juice (in place of onions). Throw in some lentils, cabbage and other vegetables and you've got a great tasting, wholesome lunch with all the added benefits of the onions. Try it!

[Sldge]

In liquid form it's a ton. How about dehydrated? That could make for a decent supplement.

They say it was onion juice in the study not onions. You would need to make sure that whatever the active is in the juice would still be there in the onion. Even then youll still need a lot of onions because you would need the equivalent of that much juice.

[eldawg]

In liquid form it's a ton. How about dehydrated? That could make for a decent supplement.

Mega Test Blend:
Proprietary Onion extract, Proprietary Garlic extract, Proprietary Ginger extract

I am hitting up the bulk foods store, I mean my pharma grade suppliers, this weekend and should have the product capped in a week. BB.com pre-sale and sponsored logs to follow soon after

[NO HYPE]

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Supraphysiological doses of a repulsive substance just makes no sense to me....

The reduction in malondialdehyde concentrations that the researchers found indicates how the onion juice increases testosterone production: antioxidants in onion juice neutralise free radicals in the testes.

There are [much] more effective ways to initiate decrements in plasma malondialdehyde concentrations.

[Bane]

I am hitting up the bulk foods store, I mean my pharma grade suppliers, this weekend and should have the product capped in a week. BB.com pre-sale and sponsored logs to follow soon after

Make sure you give away free nose epithelium destroyers too

[gijoe985]

Actually someone is logging this and garlic on another forum. I think he eats 500g of onions a day with 3 cloves of garlic? He has pre blood work done and is doing post as well.

Link?

[trisextension]

Onion or onion juice or onion salt does it matter?

All got same chemicals?

I can put a few onions in my mince or onions salt and garlic slat or garlic.

Is this as effective as juice?

I mean whats difference between eating a carrott and drinking carrot juice..same sht?

[Sldge]

Onion or onion juice or onion salt does it matter?

All got same chemicals?

I can put a few onions in my mince or onions salt and garlic slat or garlic.

Is this as effective as juice?

I mean whats difference between eating a carrott and drinking carrot juice..same sht?

I would say the difference is dose. As long as you get the required amount you might be ok but the study didnt use salt.

[NO HYPE]

If someone was able to identify the exact compound in onion juice that gives the benefit, isolate it, freeze dry and compact it, and put in in capsule for supplement it could be an idea?

Exactly....

Wouldn't it make more sense to supplement the isolated constituents, rather than utilizing gastrostomy feeding tube insertions?

The researchers suspect that the antioxidants in question are probably selenium compounds found in onions, and phenols such as quercetin and isorhamnetin [structural formulae shown above]. Isorhamnetin is also made in the body when enzymes convert quercetin with the help of S-adenosylmethionine.

[Stevemeister86]

Garlic is also a tremendously strong testosterone booster. Unfortunately you will never be able to get the active in a shelf-stored product, no matter how airtight it is

Do you have any research to back this up?

[Steellifter]

Actually someone is logging this and garlic on another forum. I think he eats 500g of onions a day with 3 cloves of garlic? He has pre blood work done and is doing post as well.

Link??? PM if need be.

Do you have any research to back this up?

This?

[KelThuzad]

Correct me If I'm wrong, but if you really saw a 300% increase.. Wouldn't you have to cycle this ****? Possibly even require PCT?

[Synapsin]

Correct me If I'm wrong, but if you really saw a 300% increase.. Wouldn't you have to cycle this ****? Possibly even require PCT?

My PCT choices for onion cycles are usually gum or brushing my teeth.

[goosefrabbas]

in before the FDA bans onions.