Primaforce Havoc cured my gyno!
I had a small lump under my right nipple and puffiness after my last cycle which I stacked Pplex and Mdrol. I just finished a cycle of Havoc, and the lump as well as puffiness is 100% completely gone.
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03-11-2010, 07:33 AM #1Registered User
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Primaforce Havoc cured my gyno!
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03-11-2010, 08:04 AM #2Registered User
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inb4 ****storm haha. How did you run it?
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03-11-2010, 08:05 AM #3
Are you sure it was gyno? Are you sure it wasn't... nothing?
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03-11-2010, 08:08 AM #4Registered User
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epi is weird it can cause gyno as if it were nothing but it can cure it like that, its not unheard of there has been other cases like that.Originally Posted by bwdgtd
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03-11-2010, 08:15 AM #5Registered User
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I ran 3 a day throughout just like I have in the past. Well, I wouldn't say it was severe, but it definitely wasn't "nothing". The tissue behind my right nipple was very tough and it was puffy on top of that. My left was normal, so it was definitely a mild case.Originally Posted by bwdgtd
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03-11-2010, 08:16 AM #6True Patriot Crew
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Misleading thread is dangerous and stupid. Anyone who thinks they should cure their gyno with another round of steroids isnt very smart.
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03-11-2010, 08:18 AM #7Registered User
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there is really no other way to explain how they got rid of gyno without details, there are other post about this so its not the first.Originally Posted by ~Hades~
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03-11-2010, 08:19 AM #8Registered User
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How is this misleading? I simply stated what happened to me. This is actually the second time Havoc has done this for me. I stacked Xtreme Tren and Havoc(dumb I know), and I had some mild gyno after the tren then after I transitioned to the Havoc and finished out with it, the gyno went away. I am not alone on this. Havoc/ Epistane has been known to do this in some people.Originally Posted by ~Hades~
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03-11-2010, 08:20 AM #9True Patriot Crew
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I didnt say there was no explanation. I said it was misleading and stupid. I know this isnt the first but that doesnt make it any better, does it?Originally Posted by jan1991
Epi does not cause gyno. Poor pct/poor recovery causes gyno.Originally Posted by jan1991
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03-11-2010, 08:22 AM #10Registered User
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It never has caused it with me, but a buddy of mine had some serious Pro-lactin gyno from a cycle.Originally Posted by ~Hades~
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03-11-2010, 08:24 AM #11True Patriot Crew
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.....Epi reduces gyno?
We're aware of the rumours that have come from the marketing of epi; that it reduces gyno, because it's based on this breast cancer drug. What they don't realise is that:
[1]Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold
epitiostanol probably does not have direct anti-estrogen properties. It probably has indirect action through its androgenic properties
It's only one of a number of androgenic steroids that have been tested for this purpose, which have largely since being discarded in favour of aromatase inhibitors to avoid the virilising side-effects.
User reports support this position, with some claiming it's reduced gynecomastia on cycle, some testifying that it's caused or aggravated it, and others noticing no change.
The point being that promoting the use of more steroids to reduce your gyno from previous steroid use is reckless and furthering the thought of it is ridiculous.Last edited by ~Hades~; 03-11-2010 at 08:28 AM.
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03-11-2010, 08:29 AM #12Registered User
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wrong wording on my behalf, i should have stated that epi can Aggravate and has been know to Aggravate gyno.Originally Posted by ~Hades~
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03-11-2010, 08:29 AM #13True Patriot Crew
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Have you finished pct or just the cycle?
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03-11-2010, 08:31 AM #14Registered User
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inb4 kids start using havoc to get rid of gyno.
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03-11-2010, 08:31 AM #15Registered User
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family guy quote FTW!Originally Posted by bwdgtd
seconded... now every 18-yo with a hard on to run a m-drol cycle will think epi is a safe bet to run on the back end.Originally Posted by ~Hades~
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03-11-2010, 08:35 AM #16Registered User
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Nah just the cycle man. I'm about to start PCT.Originally Posted by ~Hades~
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03-11-2010, 08:38 AM #17Registered User
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If the only widely believed way to get rid of gyno is surgery, then what do you have to lose running a cycle of havoc. If it doesn't cure the gyno, then at least you got great strength gains and you will still need the surgery you needed to begin with. If it does, then it's win win.
"The mind is the limit. As long as the mind can envision the fact that you can do something, you can do it, as long as you really believe 100 percent."
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03-11-2010, 08:43 AM #18pushing thru the limits
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congrats man, and no kids will jump on using this to cure gyno... More kids jump on letro/nolva to try and curing it so if they do this then they probably would've done the other either way...
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I thought Havoc had to do something with central heating and air conditioning...now Im all confused...
sorry i had no other enlightening thoughts on the thread, but glad your gyno is gone, either way."An army is a team. It lives, eats, sleeps, fights as a team. This individuality stuff is a bunch of bull$hi?." - General George Patton Jr
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05-19-2010, 06:12 PM #20Registered User
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It's been a couple of months since my cycle and PCT, and I would like to re-state the Havoc did, indeed, cure my gyno.
"The mind is the limit. As long as the mind can envision the fact that you can do something, you can do it, as long as you really believe 100 percent."
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m-drol cured my liver problems
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05-19-2010, 06:22 PM #22Hates most people
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Op are you sure that you even had "gyno" or did you self diagnose? If you did a PCT of Nolvadex, that might have gotten rid of it, if you even had it.Krispy Kreme Krew Forever.
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05-19-2010, 06:45 PM #23Sleekin on YOU
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Dont even get me started on how jackked i got while taking BSN NitrixOriginally Posted by bclark22
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05-19-2010, 07:25 PM #25Humble Bro
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Legit.Originally Posted by bwdgtd
Don't tell me what you want to do, do it.
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05-19-2010, 07:47 PM #26∆ Th∑ Gr∑∑k GΩd ∆
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I had a very very light case of gyno which could even be considered "nothing." During my cycle it went away then came back and then the pct it came back and then went away. And now its gone, kinda weird
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06-02-2010, 07:09 PM #27Registered User
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Yes, I am sure. It was a mild case, but it was there. It went away half way through my havoc cycle, so it was gone before I even started PCT.Originally Posted by TMac26
I'm not sure why everyone is being a smart ass, and act like they know everything. Half of you guys aren't experts. I was surprised when it happened, but it actually made it go away."The mind is the limit. As long as the mind can envision the fact that you can do something, you can do it, as long as you really believe 100 percent."
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