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    Originally Posted by Fixxxer View Post
    You can't do rows or chins without contracting your biceps. If you were referring to deadlifts, then of course you're right.
    Of course you can't completely eliminate, but you can minimize the secondary muscles through a solid mind to muscle connection and technique. One of those is taking the thumb out of the equation and using your hands like hooks just for pulling.

    Try it, it works.
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    bro deadlifts dont build biceps. squats do. they increase arm size by 23.53698% lulz
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    Originally Posted by nen78059 View Post
    I was doing calf raises the other day and you would beleive the pump I got in my biceps.
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    Originally Posted by nen78059 View Post
    I was doing calf raises the other day and you would beleive the pump I got in my biceps.


    Originally Posted by SquatTilYouDrop View Post
    Next time try pulling the weight with your back instead of your arms.
    This.

    If you're getting a hyoooooooooge biceps pump when doing rows or pull ups, you're doing it wrong.
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    Originally Posted by -Lucifer View Post




    This.

    If you're getting a hyoooooooooge biceps pump when doing rows or pull ups, you're doing it wrong.
    I dont agree with that, but i do think that chin ups can be manipulated to being an exercise that can either suit EITHER biceps or back, but i suppose thats up to each individual
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    Originally Posted by Ironlife View Post
    i do think that chin ups can be manipulated to being an exercise that can either suit EITHER biceps or back
    lol, that's like saying, you should only do squats and deadlifts to work your abs.

    Sure, chin ups will hit the biceps too, but like I said in that PM, it's not a great biceps builder. When I was new to lifting, I heard a lot of people on here say the same thing about chins and heavy rows. So I went ahead and tried chins, which did nothing for my biceps. Curls really made them grow.

    It's simple - if you want to grow a muscle, hit it hard and that's what curls do. I wouldn't tell a newbie to do chins for biceps, unless he's on a programme like Rippetoes.

    Also, I get what you're saying about using chins to hit the biceps; limiting the RoM, so the biceps are emphasized more.
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    Originally Posted by -Lucifer View Post
    lol, that's like saying, you should only do squats and deadlifts to work your abs.

    Sure, chin ups will hit the biceps too, but like I said in that PM, it's not a great biceps builder. When I was new to lifting, I heard a lot of people on here say the same thing about chins and heavy rows. So I went ahead and tried chins, which did nothing for my biceps. Curls really made them grow.

    It's simple - if you want to grow a muscle, hit it hard and that's what curls do. I wouldn't tell a newbie to do chins for biceps, unless he's on a programme like Rippetoes.

    Also, I get what you're saying about using chins to hit the biceps; limiting the RoM, so the biceps are emphasized more.
    Yeah thats what im saying,
    can be manipulated at least you know what im getting at lol, and for you fair enough not seeing results, its not for everyone and obviously not for you which is the beauty of bodybuilding there are different exercises for different people!

    regardless for me i have been seeing gains unparrelled for years and i believe i have struck gold with these.. I personally would recommend these for beginners and anyone because of the uniqueness of these. But hey man each to there own.
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    I guess i know your stance on the whole chin ups for biceps debate lol?

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    Originally Posted by cgsmith1986 View Post
    i know biceps are a secondary muscle to back exercises
    that is an over-generalization. rows and pullups and even moreso chin ups will affect the biceptz. you have to flex the elbow. that doesn't happen in deads.

    isometrically, if you do an alternating grip, you will feel it in the hand with the supine grip.
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    everyone is being retarted. the only reason i asked if deadlifts make your arms bigger is cuz i've heard time and time again that deadlifts are the king of all exercises. they build mass everywhere, people tell me. same i hear about squats. i know you don't directly work your biceps by doing deadlifts. i'm not retarted. i asked because i wanted to know if it is true that squats and deadlifts actually boost your testosterone level because they are large muscle groups. thus theoretically building mass on the rest of your body.

    i just started going the gym 6 days a week a few months ago and i've gotten some good gains but i'm looking to get over the plateau i'm at now. so chill out with the dickhead comments about 1 star or whatever. just give me some advice and quit proving the meathead = douchebag stereotype.
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    everyone is being retarted.
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    Originally Posted by cgsmith1986 View Post
    everyone is being retarted. the only reason i asked if deadlifts make your arms bigger is cuz i've heard time and time again that deadlifts are the king of all exercises. they build mass everywhere, people tell me. same i hear about squats. i know you don't directly work your biceps by doing deadlifts. i'm not retarted. i asked because i wanted to know if it is true that squats and deadlifts actually boost your testosterone level because they are large muscle groups. thus theoretically building mass on the rest of your body.

    i just started going the gym 6 days a week a few months ago and i've gotten some good gains but i'm looking to get over the plateau i'm at now. so chill out with the dickhead comments about 1 star or whatever. just give me some advice and quit proving the meathead = douchebag stereotype.
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    Originally Posted by SquatTilYouDrop View Post
    Of course you can't completely eliminate, but you can minimize the secondary muscles through a solid mind to muscle connection and technique. One of those is taking the thumb out of the equation and using your hands like hooks just for pulling.

    Try it, it works.
    Yep. You'll also get a lot less tearing of callouses (and they will build on your fingers rather than on your palms) from holding it as described above.
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    I don't see what all the argument is about. Deadlifts will not build biceps directly, but the growth hormone and testosterone production from them may be conducive to better gains if the biceps are being worked through other exercises and, most importantly, if diet is in check.

    Chinups and pullups, without question, work the biceps. Anytime the angle between your forearm and upper arm decreases, you are using your biceps. Whether or not someone gets a good biceps workout from it is another question, seeing as someone with strong biceps and a weak back would be having issues with their back long before his or her biceps give out.

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    Yep. You'll also get a lot less tearing of callouses (and they will build on your fingers rather than on your palms) from holding it as described above.
    wheres my reps mother fcuker? lie to me again and ill stab you in the face with a soldering iron

    btw- hows the progression on your goals coming along? any interesting new PR's?

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    Take a guy who's never worked out. Have him do ONLY squats 2 times/week, and feed him a high calorie high protein diet. I can almost gaurantee his biceps WILL grow. My guess is has to do with the weight gain in general and the body wanting to keep itself somewhat in proportion.
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    Originally Posted by BenJardis29 View Post
    Take a guy who's never worked out. Have him do ONLY squats 2 times/week, and feed him a high calorie high protein diet. I can almost gaurantee his biceps WILL grow. My guess is has to do with the weight gain in general and the body wanting to keep itself somewhat in proportion.
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    Mother****er, let's all do calf raises to grow our penises.
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    I can almost gaurantee his biceps WILL grow.
    Where's the proof?
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    Originally Posted by BenJardis29 View Post
    Take a guy who's never worked out. Have him do ONLY squats 2 times/week, and feed him a high calorie high protein diet. I can almost gaurantee his biceps WILL grow. My guess is has to do with the weight gain in general and the body wanting to keep itself somewhat in proportion.
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    Originally Posted by medjen View Post
    If I eat a high calorie diet, my ass will grow. Does that mean I'm building my glutes?
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