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    Lyle Mcdonald and Rippetoe go to war (ya rly)

    cliffs

    -Rip posts pics of a 6'1'' 160lb 20 year old called Zach EVett
    -Shows pics of him now, 15 weeks later, weighing 80lbs more
    -Uses body calipers to show he is at 20-22% bf currently, meaning he has put on 60% muscle

    -Lyle Mcdonald rages on his board at all his devotees believing Rip, 'its only possible to put on a 1lb of muscle a week etc'
    -Demands shirtless pics, saying he's really much fatter
    -Rip posts shirtless pics on his board
    -Now demands vid of Zach squatting 320 for 5 sets of 5 as claimed to prove he isn't just a fatass

    -Rip says on his board he's gonna post em up EDIT: Tonight



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    http://forums.lylemcdonald.com/showthread.php?t=6654
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    Yeah, we know.
    I posted Rip's article a few weeks ago.
    I doubt Zach gained that much muscle, but I'm sure growing + 5000 calories/day added a bunch.

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    Alan Araganon or w/e his name is, Rip, and Lyle are all full of b.s.

    they know way more then the average person but they aren't PHD's, they haven't run any tests themselves.

    They are nothing more than the kings of broscience.

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    Originally Posted by AlmightyJad View Post
    Yeah, we know.
    I posted Rip's article a few weeks ago.
    I doubt Zach gained that much muscle, but I'm sure growing + 5000 calories/day added a bunch.

    Edit: Strong user title you mofo
    the almightyphag, phagging up the place again with his phaggotry
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    Originally Posted by MUFC View Post
    Lyle is the lord of all things good.
    This, in b4 Rippetoe is pwned.
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    Originally Posted by GoodShoot View Post
    Alan Araganon or w/e his name is, Rip, and Lyle are all full of b.s.

    they know way more then the average person but they aren't PHD's, they haven't run any tests themselves.

    They are nothing more than the kings of broscience.

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    To be fair, Rippetoe has shown pics of the guy before and after, so he is doing science.
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    Originally Posted by GoodShoot View Post
    Alan Araganon or w/e his name is, Rip, and Lyle are all full of b.s.

    they know way more then the average person but they aren't PHD's, they haven't run any tests themselves.

    They are nothing more than the kings of broscience.

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    Aragon and Lyle are super knowledgeable.

    Rip knows the technique of squatting, big deal.
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    Originally Posted by AlmightyJad View Post
    Aragon and Lyle are super knowledgeable.

    Rip knows the technique of squatting, big deal.
    He posted pics, he's even gonna film him doing 5X5 sets 320lbs like lyle's demanding, what more can you ask?
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    Originally Posted by GodsAngina View Post
    He posted pics, he's even gonna film him doing 5X5 sets 320lbs like lyle's demanding, what more can you ask?
    I don't care if he progressed to a 405 squat.
    He didn't gain as much muscle as Rip states, that's BS.
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    Originally Posted by GodsAngina View Post
    To be fair, Rippetoe has shown pics of the guy before and after, so he is doing science.
    lulz bro that's not even close to science in any way shape or form.

    AA is knowledgeable. Lyle too. Rip isn't imo.
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    Originally Posted by TheHybrid View Post
    lulz bro that's not even close to science in any way shape or form.

    AA is knowledgeable. Lyle too. Rip isn't imo.
    Rip has a science degree and all his books are co written with the professor of exercise science of Texas University.

    And yeah, what he's doing is pretty scientific tbh.
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    Rip doesn't have a a bachelors in bio.
    He doesn't know as much as you'd like to think.
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    Originally Posted by AlmightyJad View Post
    Aragon and Lyle are super knowledgeable.

    Rip knows the most basic technique of squatting that can only be applied to 15-20% of the population effectively yet does an extremely poor job of making people aware that its not the only (or imo best) way to squat properly, big deal.
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    Originally Posted by GoodShoot View Post
    Alan Araganon or w/e his name is, Rip, and Lyle are all full of b.s.

    they know way more then the average person but they aren't PHD's, they haven't run any tests themselves.

    They are nothing more than the kings of broscience.

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    Pretty sure all 3 have science degrees, lolz.
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    I like rip, but I have to support Lyle here.

    I agree the guy gained a fair amount of muscle, but also think that hes fat distribution might be genetically very good, thus it fools you into thinking he gained more than he actually did.
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    Originally Posted by GodsAngina View Post
    Rip has a science degree and all his books are co written with the professor of exercise science of Texas University.
    lol so?

    im about to have a degree in nutrition. you still shouldn't believe me JUST because of my degree.

    that's just like how there's good doctors and bad doctors.

    i never hear rip say anything intelligent really. AA, lyle, and layne were in a big interview about mTOR and i was pretty impressed by how much they knew, layne especially.

    edit: that's not CLOSE to science. there's absolutely no control in that test
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    why the Rip hate : (

    he puts the numbers, provides the proofs, and Lyle is all "my book says no, so its not possible"
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    Originally Posted by GodsAngina View Post
    Rip has a science degree and all his books are co written with the professor of exercise science of Texas University.

    And yeah, what he's doing is pretty scientific tbh.
    No he does not. Why do you think he just wrote this on his own forum?

    Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe
    I'm not interested in doing a controlled study, because I am not an academic and I already know what I need to know. There are lots of academics sitting on their dead tenured asses behind desks in "Exercise Science" departments all over the world, and they need to catch the **** up. The fact that they haven't tells you a lot about the state of exercise science today.
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    Originally Posted by AlmightyJad View Post
    Yeah, we know.
    I posted Rip's article a few weeks ago.
    I doubt Zach gained that much muscle, but I'm sure growing + 5000 calories/day added a bunch.

    Edit: Strong user title you mofo
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    Originally Posted by Fuzzy_Logic View Post
    Then why did he just write this?
    Because he's not an academic and he's not interested in doing a controlled study?
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    Originally Posted by GodsAngina View Post
    Because he's not an academic and he's not interested in doing a controlled study?
    You say his books was co-written with exercise scientists. If he hates them so much, why would he do that?
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    Originally Posted by AlmightyJad View Post
    Rip doesn't have a a bachelors in bio.
    He doesn't know as much as you'd like to think.
    325 for 11.
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    Rippetoe will get you strong,...but at the cost of clogged arteries. I like how he teaches the importance of technique, but I will never adopt his eating guidelines.
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    Originally Posted by Billster View Post
    lol the guy got ****ing fat as hell
    lol THIS
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    Originally Posted by Fuzzy_Logic View Post
    You say his books was co-written with exercise scientists. If he hates them so much, why would he do that?
    where did I say he hated them? He and Lon Kilgore, prof of Ex science Texas Uni say a most of what is considered by academics to be facts about strength and hypoertrophy training is BS.
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