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    Would it be wise to take flat bench out of my program?

    Flat bench has been giving my shoulder problems from the start. I get a sharp pain in my shoulders everytime i do this exercise. But i have no pain or discomfort whatsoever when doing incline and decline. Incline and decline also hit my chest a lot better than flat bench does.

    Would i lose any benefits taking flat outta my routine?
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    Have you tried switching the dumbbells, just with the flat? And if you have, does that hurt too? If incline and decline hit your chest much better than flat then I would say that you aren't losing much.
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    you try doing smith machine on flat bench?

    try and see if it still hurts, if it does, then just try and do SOME kind of flat press. like hammer strength press or flat flyes.

    because if you only do incline and decline you will eventually notice your middle pecs will be lagging.
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    it would be more wise to learn how to bench properly. but if that is impossible, then yes, taking it out would be the next best thing.
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    Originally Posted by TitanFB11 View Post
    you try doing smith machine on flat bench?

    try and see if it still hurts, if it does, then just try and do SOME kind of flat press. like hammer strength press or flat flyes.

    because if you only do incline and decline you will eventually notice your middle pecs will be lagging.


    Would that even work because he is trying to build mass?... what makes hammer strength machines better (i've been hearing a lot about them) ?
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    Originally Posted by Ka0s View Post
    it would be more wise to learn how to bench properly. but if that is impossible, then yes, taking it out would be the next best thing.
    trust me i have, I've tried all variations, grip, elbows tucked, shoulders retracted, arched back etc... Still hurts my shoulders.

    Originally Posted by TitanFB11 View Post
    you try doing smith machine on flat bench?

    try and see if it still hurts, if it does, then just try and do SOME kind of flat press. like hammer strength press or flat flyes.

    because if you only do incline and decline you will eventually notice your middle pecs will be lagging.
    Anything flat hurts my shoulder. And LOL at middle pecs lagging, I don't think that's possible.

    Originally Posted by MaCmMr View Post
    Have you tried switching the dumbbells, just with the flat? And if you have, does that hurt too? If incline and decline hit your chest much better than flat then I would say that you aren't losing much.
    Yes i have, still hurts my shoulders.
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    Originally Posted by Ka0s View Post
    it would be more wise to learn how to bench properly. but if that is impossible, then yes, taking it out would be the next best thing.
    This.
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    if u have tried flat bench every possibly way..meaning using DB's, regular BB and smith machine..and it still hurts while doing all of those..then yes take it out and stick to incline, DB flies.. and IMO if ur shoulder can handle..do dips over decline

    taking out flat bench will not cause any harm..u will develop a solid chest doing exactly what i wrote...
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    Originally Posted by UCFBuilder View Post
    if u have tried flat bench every possibly way..meaning using DB's, regular BB and smith machine..and it still hurts while doing all of those..then yes take it out and stick to incline, DB flies.. and IMO if ur shoulder can handle..do dips over decline

    taking out flat bench will not cause any harm..u will develop a solid chest doing exactly what i wrote...
    Actually, i remember dorian yates saying he never did flat, he only did incline and decline. So I'm sure i don't need flat. Dips are good yes, i just can't go to far down or i get shoulder pain as well.
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    i don't do flat, only incline or decline
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    Originally Posted by TheBroBrah View Post
    Actually, i remember dorian yates saying he never did flat, he only did incline and decline. So I'm sure i don't need flat. Dips are good yes, i just can't go to far down or i get shoulder pain as well.
    you sir, are a moron.


    I do not care what anyone on these forums says, without a flat barbell bench press you really are limiting your chest.

    It is the single best exercise for chest, ever.

    try doing shoulder dislocations (google it) These help with any pain I get with doing bench. Your grip is probably too wide if you have shoulder issues
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    [QUOTE=TheBroBrah;460756281]trust me i have, I've tried all variations, grip, elbows tucked, shoulders retracted, arched back etc... Still hurts my shoulders.



    Anything flat hurts my shoulder. And LOL at middle pecs lagging, I don't think that's possible.


    it wont be lagging, but will look not right compared to the mass youll have on your upper chest.

    but w.e lol
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    Originally Posted by YL_LDN View Post
    Would that even work because he is trying to build mass?... what makes hammer strength machines better (i've been hearing a lot about them) ?
    machines arent bad period, let alone hammer strength.


    machines just arent good to do for compound movements becuase they are on a fixed motion so you dont have to stabalize the weight therfore, not building stabalizer muscles.

    but you CAN gain mass using machines, you just have to have a combo of everything (machines,cables and free weight)
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    Originally Posted by Nick.EG3 View Post
    you sir, are a moron.


    I do not care what anyone on these forums says, without a flat barbell bench press you really are limiting your chest.

    It is the single best exercise for chest, ever.

    try doing shoulder dislocations (google it) These help with any pain I get with doing bench. Your grip is probably too wide if you have shoulder issues
    Dude are you really that retarded? Not everyone has the same build, how am i limiting my chest if i don't even feel flat bench in my chest no matter how i do it?

    My dad only does incline and his chest is very built all around. He's never done decline or flat.
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    Originally Posted by UCFBuilder View Post
    if u have tried flat bench every possibly way..meaning using DB's, regular BB and smith machine..and it still hurts while doing all of those..then yes take it out and stick to incline, DB flies.. and IMO if ur shoulder can handle..do dips over decline

    taking out flat bench will not cause any harm..u will develop a solid chest doing exactly what i wrote...
    for those dips, do you lean forward?
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