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  1. 03-09-2010, 01:56 AM #1
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    Question HD Labs XXX25 EPH

    Is this company trustworthy? Or just another shady backyard factory where they adulterate supplements? I ask, because this is my only source for ephedrine right now (in Germany) since it's banned and I don't have access to otc stuff like bronkaid. What do you guys think?


    Here are the ingredients (with a bodacious prop blend ):
    225mg Caffein, 25mg Eph, 150mg Blend (inc White willow bark, Synephrine, Yohimbine, Hoodia, Phenylethlamine, Theobromine, Chromium picolate, Benzeneethanamine).


    ..... and what the hell is "Benzeneethanamine"????




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    where do you get it, directly in Germany? Is it eph hcl?
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    Originally Posted by Tobi_DXB View Post
    where do you get it, directly in Germany? Is it eph hcl?
    I believe it's eph hcl or sulfate since the label says 25 mg?! A plant extract should be a larger quantity. Just a long-shot guess!!

    I get it from the UK. Just google the product name.
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    It looks a bit odd, especially since there is no picture of the actual bottle whereas all other supps have the pic. Have you ordered from this shop before? I think if they are reliable you could give it a shot. I just ordered some Eph HCL from Canada, curious to see if it makes it through ***** customs

    Edit: looks like bb.com was selling products from HD labs, currently they don't have any though.

    Re Benzeneethanamine: what I found on the net so far is that it is used as an emulsifying agent, not sure what it's supposed to do in the body re fat burning though.
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    Originally Posted by Tobi_DXB View Post
    It looks a bit odd, especially since there is no picture of the actual bottle whereas all other supps have the pic. Have you ordered from this shop before? I think if they are reliable you could give it a shot. I just ordered some Eph HCL from Canada, curious to see if it makes it through ***** customs
    Absolutely, but the shop is above suspicion and I ordered there many times before. That's why I ask in the first place. I think they will never sell crappy products, the owner is a very honest guy.

    Good luck with your order and I hope ***** customs turn a blind eye!!
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  7. 03-10-2010, 12:17 AM #6
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    Nobody has to say a good word about HD Labs? Any background information about the company/owner?


    Well, at least it's not Ross....










































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