Stack Ephedrine with Spawn (Epi/Tren) Cycle

[lvhawaiian]

Hey guys, read about this once, but was skeptical. First off I know the effects of ephedrine, and i was on it for a couple months ending about 3 months ago. Recently have been off of fat burners completely, besides good diet.

Basically i'm trying to put on a bunch of lean muscle, i've been stuck at this same weight forever, even though i've greatly improved my diet, and quit drinking alcohol. I still have a bit of a belly and love handles (it really bothers me).

Main question: would stacking EC with my Spawn cycle (im on day 8 and things are great) help me get big AND cut? I know that E increases metabolism, and controls cravings, and makes me sweat like a mofo, and i think i'd like to add that to my workout.

what you guys think?

[jeremyleinen]

that would be the most moronic thing ever. Adding in a stim like that on cycle is going to royally jack up your BP and likely cause cramping thats going to nearly incapacitate you.

[lvhawaiian]

jeez i was just wondering, that's why i asked. but in my defense, i was taking fat burning stims for a while in the past, and i was on E prior, so it wouldn't "hit" me as hard this time around if i jumped on it...but i know what ur saying. My BP honestly "seems" normal, but i dont know that for sure, when i was on E i could literally feel my heart pumping, i dont have feel anything even close to that from spawn, it feels like the my BP didn't spike at all (maybe the AI cycle support is working)

idk...any more opinions?

[2Burnt]

i wouldnt chance it. some have, but you have to be meticulous at watching your bp.

[lvhawaiian]

im wondering if i should try it????,....i could always just stop if it's unbearable

[bonoms]

im wondering if i should try it????,....i could always just stop if it's unbearable

or you could just faint and/or die from a brain aneurysm?

[Volumizer]

Let natural selection select against this dumbass and be over with

[lvhawaiian]

wtf is ur guys' problem? great advice. way to be helpful

[2Burnt]

if you do. low dose and watch your bp closely.

[jeremyleinen]

wtf is ur guys' problem? great advice. way to be helpful

what you're talking about doing is a horribly dangerous idea. Advice is being given and you're pretty much ignoring it.

[zeppelin8778]

Op you're being ridiculous. You asked, people answered. End of story. They said it's ****ing stupid and bad for you and you get all pissy about not getting the answer you wanted to hear.

I personally would NEVER take ec and a cycle at the same time. Ever. My BP would be through the roof and it would not be healthy.

[lvhawaiian]

if you do. low dose and watch your bp closely.

that's what i was thinking. instead of 25mg 3x a day like i did before...i'd do 25mg once a day, maybe 2x after a couple weeks if BP was in check

..but im still thinking about it...it's just an idea

[HTML_Rulez_D00d]

wtf is ur guys' problem? great advice. way to be helpful

you need to do more research on your own

people here are getting tired of reading and answering the same dumb questions OVER AND OVER because people refuse to use a search engine.

go educate yourself.


this is OP's 4th thread on this general subject of spawn since feb 28th plus he already started it but is still asking questions.\

im done.

[bonoms]

that's what i was thinking. instead of 25mg 3x a day like i did before...i'd do 25mg once a day, maybe 2x after a couple weeks if BP was in check

..but im still thinking about it...it's just an idea

all it takes is a stressful day and 1 dose to fck you up man. The reason why you take so many doses is because the half-life of eph is 3-6 hours....so really your only under the full effects of 25mgs at any given time if you think about it. Stacking epi/tren and taking even 1 dose could cause you faint or suffer a aneurysm while lifting especially...think about how much you strain.....

Its not smart

Ive said all i could. Dont get snappy when you ask a question like that and get met with "wtf are you thinking" answers. Not expecting responses like that is silly....Plus, it is good advice that should be helpful? I dont get it.

Its ok tho somone is going to come in after me and say "Yea broski you should be fine" and all our advice is going to go out the window...

[lvhawaiian]

there really isnt much info on stacking ephedrine with a prohormone. i tried looking in the past, and again today.

and yes, i have 4 threads started about spawn, maybe i wanted some questions answered. isnt that what the forum is for? I was trying to get all neccessary supps to have an effective spawn cycle.


-and bonoms - thanks for putting things in perspective. ill just settle for more cardio!

[Honkey_Kong]

there really isnt much info on stacking ephedrine with a prohormone. i tried looking in the past, and again today.

and yes, i have 4 threads started about spawn, maybe i wanted some questions answered. isnt that what the forum is for? I was trying to get all neccessary supps to have an effective spawn cycle.


-and bonoms - thanks for putting things in perspective. ill just settle for more cardio!

Of for ****'s sake. It's a ****ing stupid idea. Hawaiian if you want to lose weight learn to ****ing diet right and do enough cardio. Taking spawn by itself can **** you up for good and you want to stack ephedrine on top of that? You know what? It's a good idea knock yourself out.

[2Burnt]

that's what i was thinking. instead of 25mg 3x a day like i did before...i'd do 25mg once a day, maybe 2x after a couple weeks if BP was in check

..but im still thinking about it...it's just an idea

i would cut that single dose in half if i were to do it. your really testing the waters so you are already taking a chance. no need to take any more chances.

[On Fire]

Hey guys, read about this once, but was skeptical. First off I know the effects of ephedrine, and i was on it for a couple months ending about 3 months ago. Recently have been off of fat burners completely, besides good diet.

Basically i'm trying to put on a bunch of lean muscle, i've been stuck at this same weight forever, even though i've greatly improved my diet, and quit drinking alcohol. I still have a bit of a belly and love handles (it really bothers me).

Main question: would stacking EC with my Spawn cycle (im on day 8 and things are great) help me get big AND cut? I know that E increases metabolism, and controls cravings, and makes me sweat like a mofo, and i think i'd like to add that to my workout.

what you guys think?

Mate, to my knowledge Spawn is already a pretty harsh choice to begin with, and a risk that most people aren't comfortable taking. What you're talking about here is taking that risk to your hormone systems and turning it into a life safety risk.

In fire academy, I learned to always use a Risk/Benefit model when it comes to fighting fire. If there's a LIVE person inside, I will risk my life to save them, because the benefit is immeasurably big.

Is it worth risking your life to put on a little bit of muscle or lose a TINY bit more fat?

Think of your family kid.

[lvhawaiian]

thanks for the advice 2burnt, but im just gunna do more intense cardio at the end of my workout, i normally play basketball, but there rest inbetween games, and im not sweating the whole time. Im gunna to resistane biking for a while and see if my fat starts to dissapear

[dopamine72]

I would cut solely with EC stack if I were you and then when you get lean do a bulk on spawn.

[Hansolo261]

im wondering if i should try it????,....i could always just stop if it's unbearable

uhm

or you could just faint and/or die from a brain aneurysm?

this!


man dont do it. its bad enough taking just caffiene on cycle let alone ephdrine. try just cleaning up your diet and you will be surprised what you can accomplish. The answer isnt always adding another supp, sometimes its just self control and dedication.

[lvhawaiian]

thanks for all the input, i know my origional post seems a little ingorant but i really was unaware of the risk i would be putting myself it.

my diet is pretty clean at the moment, but i will step up the cardio and hopefully see better results

[GorillaGenetics]

i think you have a lot of work naturally before you touch something like spawn just run a eca stack to lean out then for summer

[ElbowBiter]

damn gorilla Stats: 6'6", 264 lbs

Im jealous

but hey tbh Im running Tren and Andro right now and I took ECA the other day, however I just took it once because I was becoming a little backed up in my system, needed a jolt. However ECA really does not give me energy at all anymore.

I didnt die though! But I do take my fish oils everyday :P haha.

I wouldnt recommend it but hey to each his own dude.

Good luck though and be safe. Try an over the counter diet supplement like Animal cuts and just remove the stims, or actually the stims in animal cuts should be fine, they arent as hardcore as mixing caffeine with ephedrine.

Take care!

[euro_vc]

thanks for the advice 2burnt, but im just gunna do more intense cardio at the end of my workout, i normally play basketball, but there rest inbetween games, and im not sweating the whole time. Im gunna to resistane biking for a while and see if my fat starts to dissapear

why dont you try a keto diet with cardio in the morning + small dose of stims (200 mg) many people report great benefits in cutting and getting rid of stubborn fat. Check the keto forums.

I dont understand why would you use such harsh compounds at your age that could cause serious irreversible damage for life. Your body is naturally growing till 25.

Do the B.E.T stack instead which is very safe and effective...I gained like 6-8 lbs of lean mass on 1 bottle of E-Bol alone that like in 3.5 weeks.

[newequation]

thanks for all the input, i know my origional post seems a little ingorant but i really was unaware of the risk i would be putting myself it.

my diet is pretty clean at the moment, but i will step up the cardio and hopefully see better results

You are too young, too inexperienced, and too uneducated to be taking either compound. Focus on your diet and training and stop looking for shortcuts.

[lvhawaiian]

You are too young, too inexperienced, and too uneducated to be taking either compound. Focus on your diet and training and stop looking for shortcuts.

fyi, i've already been on ECA in the past. if u need to know i dropped from 260 to 215 in 4 months (about a year ago), and i've been trying to put on lean mass ever since. I just have some stubborn fat that wont seem to go away even though i've greatly improved my diet.

[2Burnt]

thanks for the advice 2burnt, but im just gunna do more intense cardio at the end of my workout, i normally play basketball, but there rest inbetween games, and im not sweating the whole time. Im gunna to resistane biking for a while and see if my fat starts to dissapear

that would be best. i really have known few people to cycle with EC in the mix. it helped with lethargy but i wouldnt do it myself. but i honestly knew someone who dosed three times a day and did well with it. he had support supplements out the a**. so it has been done, but not by a lot. i wouldnt want to go through the bp issues myself. i would imagine that it would be horrendous.

[XCriticalBenchX]

Very carefully monitor your blood pressure and heart rate, that is your main concern.

[GorillaGenetics]

op if your gonna do this make sure u hit the doc up and get some bp pills ive always made sure im taking them when i run things like anadrol and other orals and ive never had a problem with high bp