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    If you join the military with a PhD....

    what rank do you get? I heard 1LT, but that seems rather low, they should atleast make CPT.
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    Originally Posted by DrFeeIGood View Post
    what rank do you get? I heard 1LT, but that seems rather low, they should atleast make CPT.
    It depends.

    2nd or 1st class though is usually what happens though... so *shrug*

    You're already above all the enlistees.... + you're a phd - not a commando and what the hell are your PHD in? History?
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    with a PhD you can create your own military
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    Originally Posted by ackranome View Post
    It depends.

    2nd or 1st class though is usually what happens though... so *shrug*

    You're already above all the enlistees.... + you're a phd - not a commando and what the hell are your PHD in? History?
    I dont have a PhD, only a bachelors, but I was just thinking about it...
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    doctors and pharmacists become captains I believe.

    PhD would probably have to be something quality for them to actually use........
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    Why would you join the military if you have a PhD?
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    Originally Posted by NaturalC View Post
    doctors and pharmacists become captains I believe.

    PhD would probably have to be something quality for them to actually use........
    i.e. Law or Medical/Behavior.

    I believe you still go in as a Second Lt., however you would most likely rank up faster based on merit etc. Also, you can get a direct commission (bypass OCS).
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    Originally Posted by Brando0331 View Post
    Notsureifsrs... high ranking Officers make ****ing bank.
    Not to mention the additional incentives you receive. The loan repayment program doesn't hurt either.
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    Originally Posted by Brando0331 View Post
    Notsureifsrs... high ranking Officers make ****ing bank.
    you have a pay chart?

    As a pharmacist in my state I would make roughly $120K a year. As a captain in military, isn't it something like $55K a year? Pay is cut in half compared to civilian.....
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    youd join as a captain.
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    Originally Posted by NaturalC View Post
    you have a pay chart?

    As a pharmacist in my state I would make roughly $120K a year. As a captain in military, isn't it something like $55K a year? Pay is cut in half compared to civilian.....
    Yea but in military.

    No rent
    No food costs
    medical benefits
    probably less taxes on income?
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    Originally Posted by NaturalC View Post
    you have a pay chart?

    As a pharmacist in my state I would make roughly $120K a year. As a captain in military, isn't it something like $55K a year? Pay is cut in half compared to civilian.....
    That's base pay and doesn't include $25-$30k in BAH, plus another few thousand in BAS, and all the other benefits.

    As a 1st Lt I bring home, after taxes, >$50k per year.

    Originally Posted by DrFeeIGood View Post
    what rank do you get? I heard 1LT, but that seems rather low, they should atleast make CPT.
    Unless it's Medical/Dental/Law a Ph.D won't give you any pertinent experience that makes you markedly more valuable than any other freshly commissioned officer.

    I joined and have a Master's Degree.
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    so as a pharmacist if I were to join I would be a captain (O3 pay grade)

    http://www.airforce.com/opportunitie...cer/pay-chart/

    so in civilian setting I would make $120,000 a year

    as a captain in Air Force I would make 3660.60 a month (x12 = $44,000/year)

    hmmmmm

    what else does military give, Housing?

    what is BAH?
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    Originally Posted by NaturalC View Post
    so as a pharmacist if I were to join I would be a captain (O3 pay grade)

    http://www.airforce.com/opportunitie...cer/pay-chart/

    so in civilian setting I would make $120,000 a year

    as a captain in Air Force I would make 3660.60 a month (x12 = $44,000/year)

    hmmmmm
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    Originally Posted by Ryan_Cunningham View Post
    That's base pay and doesn't include $25-$30k in BAH, plus another few thousand in BAS, and all the other benefits.

    As a 1st Lt I bring home, after taxes, >$50k per year.



    Unless it's Medical/Dental/Law a Ph.D won't give you any pertinent experience that makes you markedly more valuable than any other freshly commissioned officer.

    I joined and have a Master's Degree.
    Is a Master's Degree in Pol Science any use to the military?
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    Originally Posted by Ryan_Cunningham View Post
    No.
    whats this BAH and BAS stuff you speak of
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    yeah im sure officer BAH is pretty sweet

    COLA is based on rank as well, go get stationed in Germany and pull the $$$$$
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    Also that is just a base pay. If you are something they really need you get incentive pays and other bonuses.
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    Originally Posted by NaturalC View Post
    you have a pay chart?

    As a pharmacist in my state I would make roughly $120K a year. As a captain in military, isn't it something like $55K a year? Pay is cut in half compared to civilian.....
    I doubt youd make 120k out of school? Highly doubt.
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    Originally Posted by djshortsleeve View Post
    I doubt youd make 120k out of school? Highly doubt.
    good friend of mine is getting 120k from walmart starting out
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    Originally Posted by Anomynous View Post
    Why would you join the military if you have a PhD?

    This, if I have a degree that can make me 6 figures, I wouldn't join the military. Somebody mentioned about high ranking officers making a lot of money, but do you know how long it took them to get there? My mom has been a practicing pediatrician for less than 15 years and making more than a four star general with 30 years of service.

    Edit:keep in mind I'm talking base pay, of course if you add up all the perks of being a general he/she would probably end up making more than my mom but point being it took him/her(general) a long ass time to get there!
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    Originally Posted by Shortfuze View Post
    Is a Master's Degree in Pol Science any use to the military?
    Not particularly - At least at my level. Very senior officers who make policy may make use of some political theory. But on the whole, most degrees don't translate well into the military, but an advanced degree is required to attain O-4 and higher.

    Originally Posted by NaturalC View Post
    whats this BAH and BAS stuff you speak of
    A military officer is expected to exercise initiative. If that is something you're interested in, google is your friend.

    Originally Posted by ackranome View Post
    Also that is just a base pay. If you are something they really need you get incentive pays and other bonuses.
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    Originally Posted by DrFeeIGood View Post
    what rank do you get? I heard 1LT, but that seems rather low, they should atleast make CPT.
    Serious answer is Serious...

    I'm 90% sure you would be Major. Now, the Army does 'recruit' doctors etc and bring them in at higher ranks such as LTC, but it is pre-negotiated. They actually have people that full time travel and try to get current Doctors to join and medical students to pay back their loans.

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    Originally Posted by kangkong View Post
    This, if I have a degree that can make me 6 figures, I wouldn't join the military. Somebody mentioned about high ranking officers making a lot of money, but do you know how long it took them to get there? My mom has been a practicing pediatrician for less than 15 years and making more than a four star general with 30 years of service.
    You don't join the military for the pay.
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    Originally Posted by SoggyDoughnut View Post
    Serious answer is Serious...

    I'm 90% sure you would be Major. Now, the Army does 'recruit' doctors etc and bring them in at higher ranks such as LTC, but it is pre-negotiated. They actually have people that full time travel and try to get current Doctors to join and medical students to pay back their loans.

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    No. The highest rank you can go in with is Capt.
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