Creatine Usage..

[zac20133]

My current bottle of CEE Creatine says to use 4.4 gs per day. This to me sounds a little too much at least for the maintain stage (After the loading phase). How much dosage per day do you all use?

[zac20133]

My current bottle of CEE Creatine says to use 4.4 gs per day. This to me sounds a little too much at least for the maintain stage (After the loading phase). How much dosage per day do you all use?

Another question: If cycling with AAKG how much should I take then? Thanks....

[Autobody]

no worries with your CEE, most of it will just float around drinking beer around your muscle tissue.

[in10city]

no worries with your CEE, most of it will just float around drinking beer around your muscle tissue.

lol.

That's code for CEE is inferior and breaks down significantly before being able to deliver what little creatine is left to your muscles.

[zac20133]

Oh, I meant Creatine ethyl ester..

[AphtaLyfe]

Oh, I meant Creatine ethyl ester..

So did they.

[On Fire]

Oh, I meant Creatine ethyl ester..

One of the more famously publicly debunked supplements.

Always research before you purchase. If you want something that works AND want to save some money, go get some Creatine Monohydrate.

[f.l.e.x]

youll be good with CEE

[zac20133]

youll be good with CEE

I know I'll be good and I did of research.. All point to CM being junk and the best being Creatine Ethyl Ester. I've been around a lot of CM use and even tried it myself. Even this site w w w . b o d y b u i l d i n g . c o m / f u n / t o p i c o f t h e w e e k 6 7 . h t m [ / u r l ] says that. I guess CM products have done great marketing, because it has awesome customer loyalty. I really don't want to take the time and break down all of my other sources. I actually study it from an unbiased approach, because I just want the best. I learned that all of this stuff is an opinionated as psychology and humanistic view vs. psychoanalysis. I did read one that really made me believe CEE was better because it was tested on rats. If anybody knows anything about scientific studies would know that rats composition is a lot like humans. It is were we got the whole concept of the brain and addiction. I'm not a psychology major, but really love it. Anyways, I wish people did not just jump to conclusion. But, hey, it is what it is. I just try not to make arguments or debate unless I know the person otherwise they'll get mad and take it too personal...

[On Fire]

I know I'll be good and I did of research.. All point to CM being junk and the best being Creatine Ethyl Ester. I've been around a lot of CM use and even tried it myself. Even this site w w w . b o d y b u i l d i n g . c o m / f u n / t o p i c o f t h e w e e k 6 7 . h t m [ / u r l ] says that. I guess CM products have done great marketing, because it has awesome customer loyalty. I really don't want to take the time and break down all of my other sources. I actually study it from an unbiased approach, because I just want the best. I learned that all of this stuff is an opinionated as psychology and humanistic view vs. psychoanalysis. I did read one that really made me believe CEE was better because it was tested on rats. If anybody knows anything about scientific studies would know that rats composition is a lot like humans. It is were we got the whole concept of the brain and addiction. I'm not a psychology major, but really love it. Anyways, I wish people did not just jump to conclusion. But, hey, it is what it is. I just try not to make arguments or debate unless I know the person otherwise they'll get mad and take it too personal...

Listen kid, if you're going to get your back up when people give you advice, then enjoy your CEE and I hope the placebo hits you hard.

[NasGhost]

I know I'll be good and I did of research.. All point to CM being junk and the best being Creatine Ethyl Ester. I've been around a lot of CM use and even tried it myself. Even this site w w w . b o d y b u i l d i n g . c o m / f u n / t o p i c o f t h e w e e k 6 7 . h t m [ / u r l ] says that. I guess CM products have done great marketing, because it has awesome customer loyalty. I really don't want to take the time and break down all of my other sources. I actually study it from an unbiased approach, because I just want the best. I learned that all of this stuff is an opinionated as psychology and humanistic view vs. psychoanalysis. I did read one that really made me believe CEE was better because it was tested on rats. If anybody knows anything about scientific studies would know that rats composition is a lot like humans. It is were we got the whole concept of the brain and addiction. I'm not a psychology major, but really love it. Anyways, I wish people did not just jump to conclusion. But, hey, it is what it is. I just try not to make arguments or debate unless I know the person otherwise they'll get mad and take it too personal...

Or how about you can actually try LISTENING to other people when theyre trying to help you. That article you posted is 4 years old; when CEE was still young. In theory, CEE > Mono, but in the real world, Mono >>>>> CEE. It has been scientifically proven that CEE will become creatinine far faster than Mono will, which is why it is inferior. Notice how a lot of companies have stopped using it in their products? There is a good reason for that; because it is garbage.

You say you like scientific studies, here you go, one from 2009. For your convenience, Ive bolded the parts you should read.

ABSTRACT: Numerous creatine formulations have been developed primarily to maximize creatine absorption. Creatine ethyl ester is alleged to increase creatine bio-availability. This study examined how a seven-week supplementation regimen combined with resistance training affected body composition, muscle mass, muscle strength and power, serum and muscle creatine levels, and serum creatinine levels in 30 non-resistance-trained males. In a double-blind manner, participants were randomly assigned to a maltodextrose placebo (PLA), creatine monohydrate (CRT), or creatine ethyl ester (CEE) group. The supplements were orally ingested at a dose of 0.30 g/kg fat-free body mass (approximately 20 g/day) for five days followed by ingestion at 0.075 g/kg fat free mass (approximately 5 g/day) for 42 days. Results showed significantly higher serum creatine concentrations in PLA (p = 0.007) and CRT (p = 0.005) compared to CEE]. Serum creatinine was greater in CEE compared to the PLA (p = 0.001) and CRT (p = 0.001) and increased at days 6, 27, and 48. Total muscle creatine content was significantly higher in CRT (p = 0.026) and CEE (p = 0.041) compared to PLA, with no differences between CRT and CEE. Significant changes over time were observed for body composition, body water, muscle strength and power variables, but no significant differences were observed between groups. In conclusion, when compared to creatine monohydrate, creatine ethyl ester was not as effective at increasing serum and muscle creatine levels or in improving body composition, muscle mass, strength, and power. Therefore, the improvements in these variables can most likely be attributed to the training protocol itself, rather than the supplementation regimen.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19228401

[Talos]

to be the 6th person in this thread to tell you..do w.e you want with the CEE a.k.a Creatine Ethyl Ester but pick up CM a.k.a Creatine Monohydrate if you want results

[zac20133]

You are absolutely correct! I really appreciate this info and really found it helpful. I actually returned the CEE and got CM (thank goodness I didn't open the bottle) I really thought I did the proper research, but I turned out incorrect. I seen it was from Baylor which is a very reliable source then I searched the schools database and confirm the findings (validly). Anyway, I highly appreciate your criticism. It had no affect. Even though CM didn't have a huge affect at least I know it will work some...thanks again..

[lovehasrisen]

So did they.

lolz..