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03-05-2010, 11:45 AM #1
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04-02-2010, 08:18 PM #4
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Depends what you mean by endurance. Sprint endurance,ex) 400 meter sprint workouts are brutal but effective. Or more distance running types?
Just take whatever your doing now and increase the intensity or work load to get more endurance but make sure you make the appropriate dietary changes so your body recovers
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04-02-2010, 08:24 PM #5
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04-03-2010, 07:51 PM #6
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HIIT, and new research suggests it's not really close (8-10% increase over sustained-aerobic groups).
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04-04-2010, 09:37 PM #10
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Actually if you'll look around at some of the other posts I've answered on this topic you'll see where I've posted specific studies done on 10k runner that showed both an increase in their level of endurance and an improvement in their running time. The Marines thread specifically cites 2-3 studies.
How is football a combination of both? I have a hard time thinking of a play that lasts more than 15-20 seconds.Director of Sports Performance
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04-04-2010, 10:09 PM #17
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Yes, HIIT will help you drop fat faster than traditional steady-state cardio as well.
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04-04-2010, 10:15 PM #18
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04-05-2010, 06:30 PM #19
depends, what is "fast"? and how much do you want to improve?
If you have the time (ie, months) I would do both. Also look up some other running workouts such as tempo runs and fartleks (i know, funny name).
If you only have a few days/weeks, go with the plain old running. It will help your endurance the most.Newb could use some advice...add me on ******** if you wanna talk about lifting or help me with my training...http://www.********.com/profile.php?id=100000968112659&ref=search&sid=100000724224927.3174769837..1
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04-06-2010, 07:22 PM #20
I respectively disagree. I have noticed doing HIIT has had awesome carryover to low endurance cardio. I follow a program where I do a series of sprint and your only rest is the speed walk back. When i went to do regular low intensity laps or jogging it seemed almost too easy. I think HIIT is the best for athletes since it tasks you aerobic capacity more. Just my opinion though.
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04-06-2010, 07:30 PM #21
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04-06-2010, 08:26 PM #22
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04-07-2010, 02:05 AM #23
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04-07-2010, 09:39 AM #24
for true endurance you have to build up your aerobic base and strengthen your legs, and HIt doesnt do that. For a 5k run, okay I guess. But for sustained endurance events (90 minutes plus) you need to do your LSD.
Any champion endurance athlete or does a mixture of tempo training, intervals, and LSD.
CF nutjobs who just do HIT are running far below their potential.
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04-07-2010, 11:03 AM #25
I hear and respect your points but like you said outside of cross country and marathon runners who runs long steady cardio for 90 minutes nonstop. Basketball, football, track, boxing, and MMA is all about stop n go cardio (aka HIIT) where high aerobic capacity is required for short amounts or bursts followed by a moderate cool down. As scientists have stated that is what the human body is designed for. In fact Rampage Jackson stated in a interview that he made the mistake of doing low intensity jogging when preparing for a fight and he would gassed by the end of fight, he started doing HIIT and it benefited him more. In fact I was reading in article about marathon runners who use HIIT over long Low intensity when preparing for marathons. Also there are so many different types of HIIT and the best forms are to be done outside.
Also with your last statment what do you mean below potential? are saying that any athlete who is not marathon runner is not running to their best abilty what about Usain Bolt or Adrian Peterson. Both probably rely on interval training and probably could step out and be prepared for a marathon. If the above Kansas Jayhawk strength and conditioning coach says HIIT is the best I am taking my chances with it over low intensity.
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04-07-2010, 11:39 AM #26
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i found a mixture of both to be optimal. i got really good at both when i was doing long distance about 4 times a week and hiit 2-3 times a week. i really felt like the hiit helped my distance running because i knew what it felt like to go balls to the wall and no matter how far i ran i always knew i could keep going cause my heart rate wasn't racing like during hiit.
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04-07-2010, 12:29 PM #27
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04-07-2010, 12:51 PM #28
"Defintion of endurance" does not have to do with it. You dont know what my aerobic/cardio capacity is so taking a shot about our levels being different is unwarranted. I just personally think HIIT is more effective at building your endurance faster. I am not the only one.
Does it make me right? NO Does it make me wrong? NO. Just makes it my opinion. Personally I notice great carryover to long endurance cardio from doing HIIT.Last edited by Ohio33; 04-07-2010 at 01:18 PM.
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04-07-2010, 01:16 PM #29
There are distinct physiological differences when you start doing endurance events past 90 minutes. HIIT does not prepare the body for that. HIIT does not prepare tendons and ligaments for endurance events. HIIT primarily impacts lactic acid threshold and VO2max, which are HUGE components but are not the ONLY components.
Which is why you can do HIIT and get a decent 5k time, but not as good as more broad based approach to devleop your endurance.
I consider MMA length events more work capacity than endurance. HIIT is real good for work capacity.
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04-07-2010, 01:26 PM #30
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