lol @ accepting your hairloss or shaving. Almost no one has to go bald in modern times
I use:
Dutasteride .5mg daily (most important for long term results by far) (slightly stronger alternative to finasteride) cost: 70 cents/day
Minox 5% liquid (rogaine) 1.5mg once daily at night (gives best short term regrowth that lasts forever if dut/fin maintains the rest of your hair) cost: 33 cents/ day
Nizoral (not a very important part at all) shampoo twice weekly) cost: 20 or 30$ for an 8 month supply
These are the reasons why people still go bald:
1. They don't know about the drugs. Hair loss isn't a very profitable market and pharmaceutical companies don't advertise these drugs (the pills cost pennies, and the patent is expired on one of the drugs is expired. and the other isn't specifically approved for hairloss by the FDA as the company does not see it economically worth it to put it through trials) Even though these drugs have existed since the 90s for fin, and over a decade for dut, people don't know about them.
2. People are hesitant and paranoid about drugs in general (think anti-vaxxers) especially when used for cosmetic purposes such as fin or dut. In reality these drugs are as safe as prescription drugs get, but so many people are scared off by people reporting sides (often placebo effects or unrelated occurences, such as an aging 40 year old man getting permanent ED and blaming it on the finasteride he's been taking, no it's just your age) The sides from these drugs in reality are rare, minor (usually) and always temporary. People get paranoid about the lowering of dihydrotestosterone, the cause of hairloss, because it is a form of testosterone. But the reality is it has almost no purpose except for in super extreme quantities past puberty.
3. People think natural treatments or shampoos work. They don't. Literally none of them. Even nizoral which I'm taking, used by itself is virtually useless
4. There is just a huge load of misinformation and people who don't know what they are talking about acting like they do when it comes to hairloss
As you can see I have maintained what I have had over the course of a year (obviously prior suffering terrible and rapid hairloss, I'm only 20 and was 19 when I started), and seen modest regrowth. These drugs are better for maintaining what you have than actual regrowth. But now I will never look like doctor phil, or even my before pics, as long as I continue the drugs. I can get a HT years later when I can afford it and have a full head of hair again.
The rate of success of fin and dut are extremely high.
fin: 86% after 10 years have the same or more hair than when they started, source: http://www.bernsteinmedical.com/rese...cts-and-safety
dut: 99+% after 6 months (long studies of the drugs effect on hairloss have not been done, but it is better than fin over all time periods, the drug itself it is basically a stronger version of fin) I couldn't find the study for this one but have seen it in the past. It is already known it works better than fin anyway.
Most of my regrowth was in the first few months from the minox, and I have been maintaining since then with little regrowth since. As you can see from the bottom row of pics, you get cyclical shedding occasionally (my hair got worse from month 5-6, and then grew back again) but it will always come back the same or stronger if the drugs are working for you (which dut should work for virtually 100% of people). Also, your hair usually gets worse within the first few weeks-months after starting before it gets better. Hair growth takes time, hair life cycles are long
Before pics t = 0 are in reference to when I started dutasteride. I started minox 4 months before I started dutasteride.
I have gotten no side effects at all from treatment. And no I have never taken dat dere, so that is not the cause for my hairloss
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04-13-2015, 04:02 PM #1
1 Year hair loss treatment results
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yes, or you can get them online from sites similar to how one would get cell tech without a script. Alldaychemist and inhousepharmacy are the most reputable ones.
Reasons why you might not want to go to a derm is a lot of them will waste your time and tell you to wait, or to try minox first (a waste of time because minox does not work long term). An appointment often takes months to get as well, and if they don't give you the drug you have to try to go see a new one which will take more months.
hair transplant doctors are most likely to hand out prescriptions, so if you want to get a legit script get an appointment with one of them, not just a general derm
You see my hair line regrowth in the pics don't you? They work almost just as well for the hairline too.
good thing its been proven in the studies containing 1000s of people that fin doesn't cause permanent sides in any cases, any more than sugar pills (placebo) do
Above two quotes show the ignorance that exists when it comes to these meds, and why so many people are scared off from taking them by people on the internet who don't know what they are talking about-Trump on economics: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=170898241&p=1431743431#post1431743431
-My 1 year hairloss treatment results thread http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=167142581&page=1
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04-13-2015, 04:26 PM #11
Christ, OP, there must be a strong MPB presence in your family's genetics for you to lose hair at *that* rate whilst being *that* young.
It must have been a pretty tough thing to go through psychologically. How did you find that period of time?
Good job on being proactive about it though, man. It's a huge difference.
I got on finasteride at 25 when I noticed receding at my temples and I haven't noticed any further hair loss (my Dad and uncles were bald by 35 whilst I'm around a NW 1.5 - NW2).
How did your family respond when they saw you going from having hardly any hair to a full head of hair, lol?
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04-13-2015, 04:28 PM #12
no. Balding genetics are extremely complicated and random.
All my uncles, my father, my maternal grandfather, most of my greatgrandparents had perfect hair with 0 hair loss at all. My paternal grandfather is the only one with any loss in my family, who was at a norwood 2 or 3 on the norwood scale when he died at age 50.
It can hit anyone. Anyone who thinks they are safe because their family doesn't have hairloss, or thinks they are destined for a certain hair loss pattern because other people in their family have that pattern, is fooling themselves. Sure, it's likely you will be similar to the rest of your family but it's not even close to a guarantee-Trump on economics: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=170898241&p=1431743431#post1431743431
-My 1 year hairloss treatment results thread http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=167142581&page=1
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04-13-2015, 04:31 PM #13
I've been on Finasteride for about 8-9 months now, and just starting to see improvement. Most of my hair loss is in the form of receding hairline, which it doesn't do a lot to fix. But still if it thickens everything up I'd be happy.
I've tried minoxidil in the past, and while it does work a little bit, I'm not doing that twice per day.
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04-13-2015, 04:32 PM #15
are my temples receding? when should i start taking fin?
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04-13-2015, 04:34 PM #16
loled at "as safe as prescription drugs". sooooo, not safe at all and just a bandaid for an issue that can be fixed with ACTUALLY getting healthy? No, I'm not talking about eating lean chicken and working out. Get your gut health in check (probiotics, hello?), and stop with the foods that damage your body. Got hard water? Here's a recommendation, use some citric acid to get all that calcium and other mineral buildup that clogs your pores. Putting shampoo in your hair is just making the situation worse. Brb, going bald so I should put more chemicals on my head?
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biggest mistake most guys make is popping a full pill on the first day and reeking havoc on their body. You need to start something like this on a fraction of whats recommended. I started with .25mg every other day and over 8 weeks I got to .5mg/day...which is what I still take 8 months later.
yeah, Iv been on propecia, rogaine, niz, and a topical DHT blocker for 8 months, Iv seen great results so far.
Though side effects occur for many reasons. There are ways to prevent it from getting worse but many men will suffer ill effects because their bodies just wont let them take it due to chemical change in their body.
Just like ANY medication there can be terrible sides. The only reason fin or propecia seems to be so horrible is because balding is near the #1 thing men want fixed so theres been a lot of young and middle aged men that b*tch about side effects that dont teach themselves about the drug first.
the only thing I will say OP...it looks like you are using that sh*t you sprinkle in your hair to make it look thicker. I tried kabooki over a year ago so I know how it looks but I could be wrong *shrug*Last edited by Zerafian; 04-13-2015 at 04:41 PM.
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04-13-2015, 04:36 PM #19
Agree about genetics being random. I never even considered that I'd have to worry about hair loss because my dad had a full head of hair until 60 and the only bald person out of 10 aunts and uncles is my mom's brother.
Luckily my hair loss isn't incredibly aggressive, but I'm 29 and single. Figured whatever I can do to keepbit for a bit longer was necessary.
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Yea I have heard of it, a couple people who got things unrelated to finasteride or placebo effects. It's BS
you know how many of thousands, if not millions have taken these drugs over decades for enlarged prostates and don't have any problems? But all of a sudden when people start using them for their hair it supposedly turns people into women and causes people to commit suicide. Just lol-Trump on economics: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=170898241&p=1431743431#post1431743431
-My 1 year hairloss treatment results thread http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=167142581&page=1
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04-13-2015, 04:46 PM #24
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fukkk
idk if i should hop on or not as this past year my hair is becoming less thick and my hairline is moving back.
op wat about ur libido? gains? did it effect anything?
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04-13-2015, 05:00 PM #28
I take dut alone, I never took fin, just went straight on dut
Wow Avodart is way overpriced. OP which of the generics did you get? Looks like Dutagen is pretty cheap. Are you planning on taking this for forever?
op wat about ur libido? gains? did it effect anything?
brb taking a combination of drugs daily for the rest of my life
No, thanks, Jeff.
taking fin is as easy as taking a pill when you wake up in the morning and it's all you need to maintain long term 10+ years-Trump on economics: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=170898241&p=1431743431#post1431743431
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