Why is this bad for you?

[Jigfish]

bread, wheat, white potatoes, white rice or white pasta. I am loosing weight but working out with heavey weights.

[EGsnail95]

empty calories is my assumtion, white pasta is a simple carbohydrate so it would dijest quickly = good for u in regardes to energy, i think.

[Tifflex]

bread, wheat, white potatoes, white rice or white pasta. I am loosing weight but working out with heavey weights.

These foods are not "bad" for you. What's "bad" is eating more than you burn, if your goal is to lose fat. There are different choices that will keep you full for a longer period of time, which helps with shedding fat.

I suggest you read more about nutrition.

[peter03]

there is no such thing as bad food.

[tmonkey]

there is no such thing as bad food.

I really disagree.
anything with trans fats for example

[-=FLEX=-]

Some breads are better for you than others. Avoid the brand name white sandwich type bread and instead go for heavy breads like rye.

Nothing wrong with potatoes, pasta, or white rice, IMHO.

Sure yams (sweet potatoes) are better than white potatoes, but I don't like them, and long grain rice is better than white rice, but I don't like it either.

Finally found some Quinoa at my grocery store this weekend, so I'm going to try that this week.

Moderation is the key.

-=FLEX=-

[TorontoBruce]

I really disagree.
anything with trans fats for example

Layman's explantion:

The "white" in the bread, rice and pasta in an indication that they've been highly processed and had most of the goodness kicked out of them. The germ and inner husk (bran) have been removed. They're lacking much of the fibre and nutrients you'll get in whole grains including brown rice.

The foods listed (except wheat--see next paragraph) are all high on the glycemic index. They are fast digesting and don't give you sustained energy. They spike your insulin levels.That, in turn, can lead to the foods being turned into and stored as fat faster and more readily than foods low on the glycemic.

NB: There's nothing wrong with wheat, so long as it's whole wheat.

[BrotherWolf]

bread, wheat, white potatoes, white rice or white pasta. I am loosing weight but working out with heavey weights.

Nothing bad about those foods.. well bread like wonder bread it's crap
everything else you mention is great food loaded with vitamins , carbs, amino acids and some proteins

[BrotherWolf]

empty calories is my assumtion, white pasta is a simple carbohydrate so it would dijest quickly = good for u in regardes to energy, i think.

WTH are you talking about .. white pasta?? empty calories ??

what is white pasta ??

[medjen]

The foods listed (except wheat--see next paragraph) are all high on the glycemic index. They are fast digesting and don't give you sustained energy. They spike your insulin levels.That, in turn, can lead to the foods being turned into and stored as fat faster and more readily than foods low on the glycemic.

If you eat them ALONE they do.

How often do you eat white bread or rice all by themselves? Adding other foods changes the "glycemic profile" so to speak.

[BrotherWolf]

Layman's explantion:
The "white" in the bread, rice and pasta in an indication that they've been highly processed and had most of the goodness kicked out of them. The germ and inner husk (bran) have been removed. They're lacking much of the fibre and nutrients you'll get in whole grains including brown rice.

The foods listed (except wheat--see next paragraph) are all high on the glycemic index. They are fast digesting and don't give you sustained energy. They spike your insulin levels.That, in turn, can lead to the foods being turned into and stored as fat faster and more readily than foods low on the glycemic.

NB: There's nothing wrong with wheat, so long as it's whole wheat.

You are so far out...

durum wheat pasta is not a high GI food in fact generally it's pretty low depending on the kind... but none of it is high, spaghetti for example has a index of 27 compared to whole wheat pasta with an index of 37

converted white rice has a low GI 38 lower than brown rice @55

a potato boiled also has a medium GI of 56 a sweet potato 54 and a yam 51

the lack of fibers has little to do with it's glycemic index in fact many foods have a lower glycemic index once the fiber is removed simply because in the process some of it's natural sugars are lost

the GI data also is very inconsistent especially in non processed foods like root vegetables, veggies, meats etc.. because there are differences in the growing methods, location and species

[Marius_Ursus]

WTH are you talking about .. white pasta?? empty calories ??

what is white pasta ??

Believe it or not, Clear Value (Wal Mart brand) pasta is made with refined wheat instead of semolina.

Blech.

[BrotherWolf]

Believe it or not, Clear Value (Wal Mart brand) pasta is made with refined wheat instead of semolina.

Blech.

I wouldn't know but I believe you ... I avoid Walmart foods like the plague

I only buy batteries and cheap shoes at walmart

[Capt_Lou]

bread, wheat, white potatoes, white rice or white pasta. I am loosing weight but working out with heavey weights.

NOTHING!

I have 8oz of a white potatoe 30 min after my workout. If it meets your macro's why not eat it?

[dutter]

im not a hater but all i know is when i cut these things from my diet i have an eaiser time shedding bodyfat.

[BrotherWolf]

im not a hater but all i know is when i cut these things from my diet i have an eaiser time shedding bodyfat.

Of course.. but it doesn't mean they are bad for you .

If you where a soccer player and not a BBer you'll get 60% of your calories from carbs
and struggle not to lose weight

[dutter]

Of course.. but it doesn't mean they are bad for you .

If you where a soccer player and not a BBer you'll get 60% of your calories from carbs
and struggle not to lose weight

true

[Nikonguy]

goody! a "some foods are evil thread"

[jmelanson]

there is no such thing as bad food.

I guess you haven't heard of a deep fried mars bar?

[DeathtoToasters]

If you where a soccer player and not a BBer you'll get 60% of your calories from carbs
and struggle not to lose weight

Soccer here I come!

[Mr. Someday]

I think "bad' is way to strong a word for most of those foods listed. Guessing you came across them in a manner that was discussing higher GI foods and lower GI foods. I tend to live off of brown rice....it is a lower GI carb and lower in calories. I remember my prep guy when he was bulking though would make a simple switch to white rice to pick up an extra couple hundred calories. So it all depends on your goals. I know if I was prepping for a show, I would never eat white rice and generally stick to yams over white potatoes, mainly because yams actually have some flavor to them though! Bread....never ate a drop of bread during a prep, nor pasta. They are refined foods, not the kind of stuff you want as a staple of your diet. In a perfect world, you should live by the mantra if you can't grow it, kill it or pick it, you probably shouldn't be eating it. With that said, prep diets are at the extreme end of the spectrum, but the most successful in this sport keep their diets very close to that ideal year around.

[socket]

bread, wheat, white potatoes, white rice or white pasta. I am loosing weight but working out with heavey weights.

I love all those foods. White pasta with red sauce and Italian sausage the best! dinner tonight, can't wait.
Grilled Steak and white potatoes loaded with sour cream and chedar last night for supa
nothing wrong with those foods.

I love bulking, anyone else ready for lunch.

now if I was trying to cut up, then I wouldn't eat like that, but still nothing wrong with the food listed by the OP IMHO.

enjoy luch fellas/gals

[dutter]

I think "bad' is way to strong a word for most of those foods listed. Guessing you came across them in a manner that was discussing higher GI foods and lower GI foods. I tend to live off of brown rice....it is a lower GI carb and lower in calories. I remember my prep guy when he was bulking though would make a simple switch to white rice to pick up an extra couple hundred calories. So it all depends on your goals. I know if I was prepping for a show, I would never eat white rice and generally stick to yams over white potatoes, mainly because yams actually have some flavor to them though! Bread....never ate a drop of bread during a prep, nor pasta. They are refined foods, not the kind of stuff you want as a staple of your diet. In a perfect world, you should live by the mantra if you can't grow it, kill it or pick it, you probably shouldn't be eating it. With that said, prep diets are at the extreme end of the spectrum, but the most successful in this sport keep their diets very close to that ideal year around.

well said

[rocketman44]

Eating simple carbs post-workout is the suggestion in most bbing articles on nutrition. The faster-digesting carbs create an insulin response which helps drive protein into muscle cells.
So there is a time for stuff like a baked potato or white bread or white rice.

[TorontoBruce]

You are so far out...

You're right, to a degree. Enough, tho, that I'll revise my post having written it off-the-cuff this morning without refreshing my memory. Something I shouldn't have done.

I was wrong on the GI of some foods. Nevertheless, on the other point I raised, I was correct: processed foods are lower in nutritional value.

I'll also add, however, some excerpts from the GI as follows:

Should I avoid all High GI foods?
No, there is a time and place for certain foods which will raise your insulin levels. Before, during and after exercise is the perfect time to enjoy your high glycemic foods which contain a high sugar content. Why should eat high glycemic index foods after a workout? After exercise your body will react to the excess sugars and create the hormone 'insulin' this hormone helps your body build muscle during this time.

Why are high-fiber foods high in GI?

The high fiber foods that are referred to as high in GI have a lot of Insoluble fiber. This type of fiber doesn't slow digestion unless it is acting like a fence to inhibit access to enzymes. Some samples of high fiber high GI foods include whole wheat breads, whole wheat pastas, etc.

Breads:
White Bread
High

Pumpernikel Bread
Low

Rye Bread
High

Flaxseed
Low

Oat Bran
Low

Pita Bread
Med

Wonder White Bread
High

Whole Wheat Tortillas
Med

Sourdough
Low


Rice:
Basmati Rice
Med

Brown Rice
Med

Instant Rice
High

Jasmine Rice
High

Long Grain
Low

Wild Rice
Med


http://www.myfit.ca/glycemic_index.asp

[RoderickTG]

Finally found some Quinoa at my grocery store this weekend, so I'm going to try that this week.
-=FLEX=-

I'm in the same boat. Just saw that the grocery store added it to their shelf and I bought some. Not to go off tangent too far, am I the only one that doesn't like the taste of Quinoa? Anyone have any tips on what they may do it (or add to it) if they don't like the taste?

[Marius_Ursus]

I'm in the same boat. Just saw that the grocery store added it to their shelf and I bought some. Not to go off tangent too far, am I the only one that doesn't like the taste of Quinoa? Anyone have any tips on what they may do it (or add to it) if they don't like the taste?

Does it taste soapy or waxy? Quinoa's really high in saponins, so depending on the brand, rinsing it off might take care of it. If you still have the bad taste after rinsing, you can always add herbs. Sometimes I sub quinoa in caseroles or other dishes calling for some kind of pasta.

Just be careful not to overcook it if you're adding pesto or red sauce to it!

[acwild]

Layman's explantion:

The "white" in the bread, rice and pasta in an indication that they've been highly processed and had most of the goodness kicked out of them. The germ and inner husk (bran) have been removed. They're lacking much of the fibre and nutrients you'll get in whole grains including brown rice.

The foods listed (except wheat--see next paragraph) are all high on the glycemic index. They are fast digesting and don't give you sustained energy. They spike your insulin levels.That, in turn, can lead to the foods being turned into and stored as fat faster and more readily than foods low on the glycemic.

NB: There's nothing wrong with wheat, so long as it's whole wheat.

What he said!

[bamazav]

I guess you haven't heard of a deep fried mars bar?

Hey.... thems good eatin.

[bobbyt321]

Eating simple carbs post-workout is the suggestion in most bbing articles on nutrition. The faster-digesting carbs create an insulin response which helps drive protein into muscle cells.
So there is a time for stuff like a baked potato or white bread or white rice.

^^^^^^^^^^ this. And when it comes to the glycemic value of foods such as these, if you eat them at a time that won't be most beneficial - try chasing them down with some fiber. The simple carb coupled with a good fiber will make the digestion process slow down as if it were a complex carb.