When doing bent over rowes...

[Shockwave78]

is your back supposed to be perfectly horizontal and in line with the ground? I hurt my back a few years ago and it feels a lot more comfortable to do them at more of a 45 degree angle.

thanks

[djansen]

is your back supposed to be perfectly horizontal and in line with the ground? I hurt my back a few years ago and it feels a lot more comfortable to do them at more of a 45 degree angle.

thanks

Then stay higher up, it will shift the emphasis a little to the upperback and traps but still a great move.
google yates row.

[Ersio]

is your back supposed to be perfectly horizontal and in line with the ground? I hurt my back a few years ago and it feels a lot more comfortable to do them at more of a 45 degree angle.

thanks

I can never do "perfectly horizontal to ground" when doing bent over rows, that would be impossible for my back.

I usually try to hit 45-60 degree angle

[lastlieutenant]

I would say instead utilize different grips (overhand, underhand) to hit different parts (upper/lower) of the back.

[x-ray vision]

Watch this video. Dorian demonstrates bent-over barbell rows.

[PrepFootball]

yep

[BFJ]

ya i don't think upper body parellel to the floor is very feasible. i think there's a reason just about no one does them that way. also, i've yet to see hardly anyone handle much weight on them in that position, except for some of the dudes that do some real impressive pendlay rows. good luck and train hard.

[TheBroBrah]

Dorian Yates has said many times that it's better to be about 45 degrees because this is where your back is the strongest. You will be very prone to injury if your doing it perfectly horizontal. Plus you can use more weight at a 45 degree angle anyway.

[strkout35]

great thread on this topic: http://muscleandbrawn.com/forums/beg...technique.html

[kevjjohnson]

I like to do them at 45 to 60 degree angle varying things to keep the pressure on different areas. I also have started using DB's to do upright rows and I feel like it helps to isolate the areas of the back I really want to burnout. Got the idea from a Charles Glass video that is posted on BB.com. Check it out. Has a lot of good stuff on back workouts.

http://videos.bodybuilding.com/watch...ack-rear-delts

[VoxExMachina]

This question gets asked often. Check out the stickies.

[Shockwave78]

excellent, thanks guys appreciated it

[pickupstix60]

the "bent over row" that goes to almost parallel is more of a Pendlay Row.

I was actually doing pendlays in the gym a while back and this MASSIVE bodybuilder came up to me and suggested I do it like the above video. I knew that what he was describing was an upright row, but wasn't about to argue with him as he obviously knew what he was talking about. He said you can mess up your lower back doing pendlay rows like I was.

I kind of disagree about that, I think that if you have proper form on Pendlay rows, it's just a deadlift stance but rowing the weight up to the bottom of your ribcage. However, you do have to be a lot more careful about how much weight you use on pendlays, and they work less upper back than uprights (obviously).

cliffs:

-45 degree angle for upright rows is good
-upright rows not the same as pendlay rows