let's talk about liv-52

[user98511001541]

so the website talks about the liver formula being scientifically backed, seems to be a boatload of linked articles about the product.

here's the thing that i dont get: its DIRT cheap - i'm talking like $5 a bottle for the double strength version (froogle... if it is that good, no way it can be so damn cheap, unless these are bottles that are years old and have lost their potency.

Another thing is that none of the ingredients are normally found in a liver support product sold on bb.com --- no NAC, hawthorne berry, etc etc... so whats up?


I have a 12 week cycle i'm planning, and i could get some cycle support for $20, including PCT and preload... so lets chat

http://liv52.com/

[joakman]

I wouldn't trust it for that cheap.

What are you running for 12 weeks, bold or injectables?

[user98511001541]

I wouldn't trust it for that cheap.

What are you running for 12 weeks, bold or injectables?

not injecting... hate needles, can barely give blood lol

i'm not supposed to mention scheduled class 3 drugs on here, so i WILL NOT say that bold is the PH that i'm taking for 12 weeks at 1g/day

[DedicatedToLift]

I wouldn't trust it for that cheap.

What are you running for 12 weeks, bold or injectables?

Agreed although I honestly have no clue as to how effective it really is. Isn't there still a site selling a double pack of AI Cycle Support?

[206AK]

not injecting... hate needles, can barely give blood lol

i'm not supposed to mention scheduled class 3 drugs on here, so i WILL NOT say that bold is the PH that i'm taking for 12 weeks at 1g/day

lol

nice way of putting it

[bwdgtd]

Not that it applies since you're not taking it, but bold isn't a methylated compound...

[yourname2221]

not injecting... hate needles, can barely give blood lol

i'm not supposed to mention scheduled class 3 drugs on here, so i WILL NOT say that bold is the PH that i'm taking for 12 weeks at 1g/day

lolz

but talk to criticalbench, he uses the stuff

[joakman]

Not to pimp, but unless you plan on buying ingredients in bulk, Cycle Stack would be the best bet as I once looked into a bold cycle before it was banned

[user98511001541]

Agreed although I honestly have no clue as to how effective it really is. Isn't there still a site selling a double pack of AI Cycle Support?

cycle support is honestly the worst tasting thing i've ever tasted. I've gone through 4 tubs of it in the past, and i would like to not have to do it again

great product, but the taste...aye carumba!

lol

nice way of putting it

thank you, its for my friend

Not that it applies since you're not taking it, but bold isn't a methylated compound...

ya

lolz

but talk to criticalbench, he uses the stuff

thanks for the lead

Not to pimp, but unless you plan on buying ingredients in bulk, Cycle Stack would be the best bet as I once looked into a bold cycle before it was banned

wayyyyyyy too expensive brah -- i'm talking like $15 for 4 bottles of liv-52 that would cover 16 weeks, not $50 for 8 weeks

totally different compounds too, which is what i'm so interested in

[joakman]

I don't know if your looking to be safe or just looking to buy something that you think might keep you safe. But, f*cking with my health would be the last thing I'd be interested when running a compound for 12 weeks.

If you think $15 will get you by for that allotted time, best of luck.

[manofmany]

These were posted by strength777 on PHF (he was a mod here before he was banned) Said he had been taking large doses of nac and liv.52

Day 1:



Few weeks later:



Just food for thought

[Kernkraft]

Do a higher dose of SAMe and low dose some UCDA if you're that paranoid about your pet rat's liver...

[UNCnate]

cycle support is honestly the worst tasting thing i've ever tasted. I've gone through 4 tubs of it in the past, and i would like to not have to do it again

great product, but the taste...aye carumba!

Try the new orange.

Do a higher dose of SAMe and low dose some UCDA if you're that paranoid about your pet rat's liver...

Or this.

[Ace28]

I don't get it, why not use the cycle support for 20 bucks??? How in the heck are you getting it that cheap anyways for a 12 weeker? Are you planning on just buying this liv52 and not having anything in there for blood pressure/support? I don't know about you but i use hawthorne for heart health?

[tenaciousj]

Bold isn't methylated so I wouldn't waste time with liver protection.


As far as Liv52 goes, I talked to A LOT of old school guys who are still cycling (20+ years) and all they use for liver protection is Liv52.

[em-dubya]

SNS liver Assist would be a much better choice....not to mention its 19.99 for a 60 day supply

[antihero]

As far as Liv52 goes, I talked to A LOT of old school guys who are still cycling (20+ years) and all they use for liver protection is Liv52.

This is very true. A lot of the older guys who cycle swear by it, I've heard of it time and time again, but I've never really looked into it.

[tenaciousj]

This is very true. A lot of the older guys who cycle swear by it, I've heard of it time and time again, but I've never really looked into it.

Yup and those are the ones who actually use Liv52, just as many old guys don't use anything at all... including Strength, said he goes without anymore.


Also just because you can find Liv52 cheap doesn't mean its bad or expired, the international version from India goes for cheap, I got 5 of them for $25 shipped.

Just look for this bottle.

[Da Main Man]

Just look for this bottle.

this ones better...



DS = Double Strength

[user98511001541]

thanks for the discussion everyone!


anybody actually have any feedback on the ingredients????? how come none of the ingredients are found in the 'new' wave of liver support?

[WIULifter]

I read a study done on people with chronic liver disease who were administered Liv 52 for a certain length of time.....it increased the mortality rate among the patient taking the Liv 52.

Food for thought......

[tenaciousj]

I read a study done on people with chronic liver disease who were administered Liv 52 for a certain length of time.....it increased the mortality rate among the patient taking the Liv 52.

Food for thought......

So people with a liver that's already bad died? Wouldn't expect a OTC liver supp to save a liver myself.

[drxmn]

So people with a liver that's already bad died? Wouldn't expect a OTC liver supp to save a liver myself.

I assume the point he is making is that the mortality rate in this study was greater in the group that was administered L-52 than in placebo/control.

[WIULifter]

I assume the point he is making is that the mortality rate in this study was greater in the group that was administered L-52 than in placebo/control.

this

[user98511001541]

I read a study done on people with chronic liver disease who were administered Liv 52 for a certain length of time.....it increased the mortality rate among the patient taking the Liv 52.

Food for thought......

can you find the study and link to it please????

i'm really interested in this product, but finding information on each individual ingredient is proving to be difficult

[MrOneEyedBoh]

brah its the only liver supp to actually be considered a drug or something close to it overseas ( I read that somewhere, will try to dig it up ) and Its also the only supp to show positive liver regeneration.

[WIULifter]

can you find the study and link to it please????

i'm really interested in this product, but finding information on each individual ingredient is proving to be difficult

yeah, probably tomorrow. I am out of town this weekend and can only get the abstract on-line.

[user98511001541]

brah its the only liver supp to actually be considered a drug or something close to it overseas ( I read that somewhere, will try to dig it up ) and Its also the only supp to show positive liver regeneration.

yeah but studies can be altered, ran incorrectly, be one-sided, etc etc so i'm looking for real feedback.

at $4.50 a bottle, i could so easily afford to run this all year long --- not that it would produce substantial differences but i like to take 'overall health' products

yeah, probably tomorrow. I am out of town this weekend and can only get the abstract on-line.

awesome thanks man

[XCriticalBenchX]

I use it everyday at 6 tabs day, 9 when on harsh orals. I get it dirt cheap to, like 4 bucks for 100 tabs. Love it, keeps my AST/ALT levels down.. they still go up when on, but not as high, and I recover faster. I use NAC daily as well with it at 600mg/day year round.

The liv52 tabs are sugar coated, so i love suckin on em before i swallow em (No homo, that sounds bad lmao) awesome treat wen dieting!

[MrOneEyedBoh]

I know im pro liv..52. Just make sure you dont get the USA version. The green-ish label bottles are the indian version ( which is the OG version )