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    hey kobeb/rico/pwn3r

    could you estimate an old pic of me at 155?

    thanks guys keep up the good work!
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    Originally Posted by shady66 View Post
    I'm 5'9 and 180 lbs. Any estimates would be much appreciated.
    Around 15+ BUT it looks like your upper body is fairly lean until you get to your hip area, that's where it looks like you carry your heft. You may be higher, maybe it's loose skin? Tough to judge.

    Originally Posted by juicydanglers View Post
    hey kobeb/rico/pwn3r

    could you estimate an old pic of me at 155?

    thanks guys keep up the good work!
    15ish. Not bad there.
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    Originally Posted by th3pwn3r View Post
    Around 15+ BUT it looks like your upper body is fairly lean until you get to your hip area, that's where it looks like you carry your heft. You may be higher, maybe it's loose skin? Tough to judge.
    Thanks for the reply, that's correct, my hips is where most of my fat is. My lower stomach has a bit left to lose as well, there is also a bit of lose skin as well.

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    Originally Posted by th3pwn3r View Post
    I'd say in the range of 20-25%.
    Are you kidding? Look at my arm shot. My legs look the same. I'm 245 pounds in both pictures.
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    Originally Posted by juicydanglers View Post
    hey kobeb/rico/pwn3r

    could you estimate an old pic of me at 155?

    Thanks guys keep up the good work!
    14-15%

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    Originally Posted by carbonium View Post
    Are you kidding? Look at my arm shot. My legs look the same. I'm 245 pounds in both pictures.
    I looked at your midsection that looks like you've sucked in and based my guesstimate on all the flab I see there. Maybe it's just a bad picture. Just because you have lean forearms and legs doesn't mean you have a lower percentage of body fat than someone with fat legs and arms. Body fat storage has a lot to do with things as well. Although it does look like you have a small waist as well. Maybe you have loose skin? I don't want to harp on you for your age either =/
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    I understand if these pictures are too bad to judge. Terrible lighting and rushed. But thanks in advance for any shots at a guess.

    all flexed.
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    estimated body fat?

    im 5'10", 177.6 Lbs, attached are some pics (relaxed)

    can anyone hook me up with bodyfat estimate?
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    Hey everyone,

    I'm kinda at a loss for my BF%.. I have one of those weight watcher scales and it says I'm at around 19%. If I do the US Navy tape measure method (31.5" waist & 14" neck) it says I'm about 16%. Now obviously I'd need a fresh set of eyes because mine always look at my trouble spot (f'n love handles). I am (was?) skinny fat, and want to start a long clean bulk within a month or so (complete noob to weight lifting) once I hit the 10-ish %.

    I can't post links yet (first post!) but you can use my progress pics in my profile.


    My stats now:

    HT: 5' 7" (169cm)
    WT: 146.7 (66.5kg)
    Waist: 31.5" (80cm)
    Neck: 14" (36cm)
    BF%: ???

    Thanks in advance guys!

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    Originally Posted by aesthetic9x View Post
    I understand if these pictures are too bad to judge. Terrible lighting and rushed. But thanks in advance for any shots at a guess.

    all flexed.
    I'd say easily in the 25% area.

    Originally Posted by EXile1588 View Post
    im 5'10", 177.6 Lbs, attached are some pics (relaxed)

    can anyone hook me up with bodyfat estimate?
    I'd say in the 30% area.

    Originally Posted by mStraz View Post
    Hey everyone,

    I'm kinda at a loss for my BF%.. I have one of those weight watcher scales and it says I'm at around 19%. If I do the US Navy tape measure method (31.5" waist & 14" neck) it says I'm about 16%. Now obviously I'd need a fresh set of eyes because mine always look at my trouble spot (f'n love handles). I am (was?) skinny fat, and want to start a long clean bulk within a month or so (complete noob to weight lifting) once I hit the 10-ish %.

    I can't post links yet (first post!) but you can use my progress pics in my profile.


    My stats now:

    HT: 5' 7" (169cm)
    WT: 146.7 (66.5kg)
    Waist: 31.5" (80cm)
    Neck: 14" (36cm)
    BF%: ???

    Thanks in advance guys!
    16% sounds like that's the right ball park.
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    hi

    165 pounds and 5ft11
    front relaxed:
    and second one is relaxed,
    cheers
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    Originally Posted by mStraz View Post
    Hey everyone,

    I'm kinda at a loss for my BF%.. I have one of those weight watcher scales and it says I'm at around 19%. If I do the US Navy tape measure method (31.5" waist & 14" neck) it says I'm about 16%. Now obviously I'd need a fresh set of eyes because mine always look at my trouble spot (f'n love handles). I am (was?) skinny fat, and want to start a long clean bulk within a month or so (complete noob to weight lifting) once I hit the 10-ish %.

    I can't post links yet (first post!) but you can use my progress pics in my profile.


    My stats now:

    HT: 5' 7" (169cm)
    WT: 146.7 (66.5kg)
    Waist: 31.5" (80cm)
    Neck: 14" (36cm)
    BF%: ???

    Thanks in advance guys!
    I would go with the estimate that tape measure gave you..doesn't seem that far off from what i was thinking (15 or so).

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    Originally Posted by lazerkid View Post
    165 pounds and 5ft11
    front relaxed:
    and second one is relaxed,
    cheers
    19-21% I'd say.

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    I can't post links yet but I uploaded a good amount of progress pics to my profile. I'm not sucking in (not sure if you can tell or not) They're all relaxed except my bicep is flexed in the bicep pic of course.
    147lb 6'.
    Thanks in advance guys!

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    Originally Posted by lazerkid View Post
    165 pounds and 5ft11
    front relaxed:
    and second one is relaxed,
    cheers
    I would say 19ish as well.

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    I can't post links yet but I uploaded a good amount of progress pics to my profile. I'm not sucking in (not sure if you can tell or not) They're all relaxed except my bicep is flexed in the bicep pic of course.
    147lb 6'.
    Thanks in advance guys!
    Well as you mentioned, it looks like you're sucking it in BIG TIME. Since you say you're not you have some serious issues because you have such low lean body mass in your mid section that your stomach is concave and carrying lots of fat at the same time, that's probably the worst combination for body composition you can have. Anyhow, it's up to you if you clean bulk or cut but you definitely need to do both in some order. I'd put you around 18% body fat or so just because of how little muscle mass I see. Pretty hard for me to judge you.
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    Originally Posted by th3pwn3r View Post
    I would say 19ish as well.



    Well as you mentioned, it looks like you're sucking it in BIG TIME. Since you say you're not you have some serious issues because you have such low lean body mass in your mid section that your stomach is concave and carrying lots of fat at the same time, that's probably the worst combination for body composition you can have. Anyhow, it's up to you if you clean bulk or cut but you definitely need to do both in some order. I'd put you around 18% body fat or so just because of how little muscle mass I see. Pretty hard for me to judge you.
    I just took some pics to show that I'm definitely not sucking it in (I'm not that vain :P)
    dl.dropbox.com/u/1810764/Progress/2011-01-03%2018.03.05.jpg
    dl.dropbox.com/u/1810764/Progress/2011-01-03%2018.04.02.jpg

    And some of my legs to show BF/muscle (the first pic bulge is muscle, not fat)
    dl.dropbox.com/u/1810764/Progress/2011-01-03%2015.20.54.jpg
    dl.dropbox.com/u/1810764/Progress/2011-01-03%2015.03.09.jpg

    I am pretty damn confused as to what I should do...If I bulk I'd just build up fat around my lower abs (which was the way I was before with a concave stomach.)
    Few people have my physique issues it seems.
    I have a thread up with my diet (very low calories) since I'm trying to finally get a six pack (doesn't seem like I'm very far away when I flex my abs). Is there any ab exercise I should be doing to totally destroy them? Squats make me sore for 2 days afterward, abs I'm only sore for the next morning...

    I am a bit surprised by 18% though... what is there is quite hard (excluding the fat deposits in my lower stomach, I store all my fat there it seems =().
    If anyone else could comment that'd be cool too!
    Thanks!

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    Originally Posted by jrmacleod View Post
    I just took some pics to show that I'm definitely not sucking it in (I'm not that vain :P)
    dl.dropbox.com/u/1810764/Progress/2011-01-03%2018.03.05.jpg
    dl.dropbox.com/u/1810764/Progress/2011-01-03%2018.04.02.jpg

    And some of my legs to show BF/muscle (the first pic bulge is muscle, not fat)
    dl.dropbox.com/u/1810764/Progress/2011-01-03%2015.20.54.jpg
    dl.dropbox.com/u/1810764/Progress/2011-01-03%2015.03.09.jpg

    I am pretty damn confused as to what I should do...If I bulk I'd just build up fat around my lower abs (which was the way I was before with a concave stomach.)
    Few people have my physique issues it seems.
    I have a thread up with my diet (very low calories) since I'm trying to finally get a six pack (doesn't seem like I'm very far away when I flex my abs). Is there any ab exercise I should be doing to totally destroy them? Squats make me sore for 2 days afterward, abs I'm only sore for the next morning...

    I am a bit surprised by 18% though... what is there is quite hard (excluding the fat deposits in my lower stomach, I store all my fat there it seems =().
    If anyone else could comment that'd be cool too!
    Thanks!
    Bulk like your life depended on it, and start doing ab workouts to try and build up mass. Make sure you are getting enough protein too. My suggestions, for what they're worth..

    What does your diet look like? Make sure it's healthy, and I say this in the nicest way possible, but you are starting to almost look like Christian Bale from the movie The Machinist (where he starved himself eating only a apple and can of tuna a day for several months to fit the role..)

    http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/u...0/stickman.jpg

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    I definitely thought of the machinist when taking the "suck-in" pics, no offense taken!

    myfitnesspal.com/reports/printable_diary/Jrmacleod?from=2010-12-30&to=2011-01-20

    That's my diet...I know, very few calories but I'm still getting a load of protein! I'm planning on increasing to 1600-2000 but when people rail against carbs a lot (I try to eat carbs before/after I exercise with protein) and fat seems just as useless for building muscle It's hard for me to justify eating more.

    My energy levels are still fine, which is why I can still exercise/move around, I just can't build up my abs for the life of me! I do crunches/reverse crunches/bicycles and my abs never seem sore after a night of rest!

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    Originally Posted by jrmacleod View Post
    I definitely thought of the machinist when taking the "suck-in" pics, no offense taken!

    myfitnesspal.com/reports/printable_diary/Jrmacleod?from=2010-12-30&to=2011-01-20

    That's my diet...I know, very few calories but I'm still getting a load of protein! I'm planning on increasing to 1600-2000 but when people rail against carbs a lot (I try to eat carbs before/after I exercise with protein) and fat seems just as useless for building muscle It's hard for me to justify eating more.

    My energy levels are still fine, which is why I can still exercise/move around, I just can't build up my abs for the life of me! I do crunches/reverse crunches/bicycles and my abs never seem sore after a night of rest!
    Too many carbs, not enough fat, not enough protein.

    Not enough calories, either.

    You should be intaking 1800~ on a cut, depending on your activity level.

    Again, I suggest bulking and lifting heavy to get some mass.

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    Not enough protein? I'm getting 100-150g a day! 150-180 is required? Thanks

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    Not enough protein? I'm getting 100-150g a day! 150-180 is required? Thanks
    Sorry, didn't look at all of the days.

    You should be aiming for 125g~ on a consistent basis, but I believe it's better to be over your daily protein requirement then under.

    You want around 65g of fat, as I believe that's the healthy daily requirement, your body doesn't function as well without that amount, if I remember correctly.


    Again, you should get other opinions from people on this forum, but you def. should bulk imo.

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    So should I be aiming for ketosis? I'll grab some testers then. I can cut out vitatops and tortillas, but the 50 carbs or so from supplements are ok right? Without carbs I can't eat any fruit/most vegetables right? Or is it just no bread? Thanks so much, I've learned a lot!

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    Originally Posted by jrmacleod View Post
    So should I be aiming for ketosis? I'll grab some testers then. I can cut out vitatops and tortillas, but the 50 carbs or so from supplements are ok right? Without carbs I can't eat any fruit/most vegetables right? Or is it just no bread? Thanks so much, I've learned a lot!
    I'll leave these questions to someone more knowledgeable.

    Personally, I barely count calories, just ball park, and the only thing I make sure I get is enough protein, I don't really watch my carbs/fat intake as I know I'm usually eating healthy foods. I don't really restrict myself from vegetables/fruit.

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    Originally Posted by jrmacleod View Post
    I am a bit surprised by 18% though... what is there is quite hard (excluding the fat deposits in my lower stomach, I store all my fat there it seems =().
    If anyone else could comment that'd be cool too!
    Thanks!
    My guesstimate still stands. Even after looking at your leg shots, there are no visible cuts and you have no vascularity so I know your legs aren't "lean"(in my opinion).

    Originally Posted by jrmacleod View Post
    So should I be aiming for ketosis? I'll grab some testers then. I can cut out vitatops and tortillas, but the 50 carbs or so from supplements are ok right? Without carbs I can't eat any fruit/most vegetables right? Or is it just no bread? Thanks so much, I've learned a lot!
    I wouldn't bother with keto unless I really enjoyed it. You need to spend a good deal of time clean bulking so I suggest you start consuming the things you like and make sure you're getting in your protein while training all muscle groups.

    Originally Posted by alwaystranquil View Post
    I'll leave these questions to someone more knowledgeable.

    Personally, I barely count calories, just ball park, and the only thing I make sure I get is enough protein, I don't really watch my carbs/fat intake as I know I'm usually eating healthy foods. I don't really restrict myself from vegetables/fruit.
    As long as ball parking brings the results there's nothing wrong with that.
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    Originally Posted by th3pwn3r View Post

    16% sounds like that's the right ball park.
    Originally Posted by kobebryant8to24 View Post
    I would go with the estimate that tape measure gave you..doesn't seem that far off from what i was thinking (15 or so).

    Cool! Thanks for the replies! You guys just made my year

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    Tired of being the 'big' guy and considering I don't play rugby anymore I want to be lean!

    17 years old, 185lbs 5'11ft

    I have only realised how much fat i've put on recently.
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    Originally Posted by kts2009 View Post
    Tired of being the 'big' guy and considering I don't play rugby anymore I want to be lean!

    17 years old, 185lbs 5'11ft

    I have only realised how much fat i've put on recently.
    I'd say 20+.
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    I was expecting 30% so that is good.

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    Originally Posted by th3pwn3r View Post
    I'd say 20+.
    I agree.

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    6'2" 180ish
    My goal is to be under 10% by summer, any obvious areas I need to work on? Thanks for all comments and help.
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