Can you mix it in warm water, then chill the water until it is cold?
02-25-2010, 08:39 PM #1
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02-25-2010, 08:42 PM #2
Don't take creatine with water. Take it with any non-acidic juice (cranberry, apple, etc), you want to stay away from acidic juices though (orange, basically any citrus). The creatine is absorbed about 6 times faster into your system when you take it with juice. As for dissolving it, I just add juice to my shaker along with creatine and swirl it around for a few minutes.
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Either way, creatine is just as useful when taken in water compared to grape juice, most stuff about cycling, loading, and taking it with juice is just a myth and has proven to be just as effective with water, 5g a day, and no loading or cycling. Just remember to take in a gallon or two of water a day, and you will receive maximum results from it.i rep back 1k+
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EDIT: So to answer your question, I tried something new and I saw results. It might just be my body, but then again, I've heard similar from people who changed from water to juice. Also, the magazine might have been men's health, but I'm not sure. If you want to know more about it, I suggest google....it's a controversial topic, just like the topic of creatine loading. Some think it does wonders, while others think differently. But as far as I've read, no one has actually had any harmful effects while taking creatine with juice. So, why not? If it turns out to not help absorption, you get some extra anti oxidants and vitamins and if it does then you get the most out of your creatine. As far as I see, only good can come from it.
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02-25-2010, 09:24 PM #17
"Research has shown that grape juice contains simple sugars that cause insulin to be released into the body. Insulin production is necessary to help transport to creatine into the muscle fibers. Just because creatine works well with grape juice, do not assume it works with all juices. Creatine mixed with citrus juices, such as orange juice, can be rendered useless because it will be converted to createinine which the body can not use."
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average pH of OJ - ~3.5
average pH of Gastric Acid - ~ 1 or 2
Still waiting for proof of the "6x absorption rate" too.
And no, I dont use my creatine with OJ
02-25-2010, 09:45 PM #20
So, with the information from my previous post, it's obvious that taking creatine with certain juices is beneficial because the insulin in the juice helps to transfer creatine faster to your muscles. However, (as stated above) certain juices are believed to have a neutral or even harmful effect on the absorption of creatine because their acidity renders the insulin they provide useless. I believe Cell-Tech used a similar concept when they created their product. They use mix dextrose along with creatine monohydrate to increase absorption rates. The natural sugars in non-acidic fruit juice help you absorb the creatine faster.
Second, I have no proof of the 6x absorption rate, I said it once and I'll say it again. I read it in a magazine which I no longer have and I'm not sure what magazine it is. However, I'll work to find the article I read about it in.
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What does that mean to the lay person? Gastric acid is probably at least 100 times stronger than orange juice, so seriously, put the creatine in whatever juice you want.
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Lots of broscience ITT.
Your stomach acid has a PH of 0 to 1. That is stronger than any juice.
Magazines usually say things without any scientific evidence. Some magazines are still touting CEE as a superior form of creatine.
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[QUOTE=CSB17;455294171]Can you mix it in warm water, then chill the water until it is cold?[/QUOTE
It's common knowledge that when it comes to building muscle, creatine is a superior supplement. It helps build mass and strength. That's why bodybuilders all over the world use creatine. Shortly after creatine monohydrate hit the marketplace, experts told bodybuilders to drink it with some kind of fruit juice - grape juice in particular. The reason for this is that juice contains simple carbohydrates, which create an insulin spike that helps channel more creatine into the muscles
Over the past several years, scientists have done a lot of research on creatine. One of their major discoveries has been that insulin can help to increase creatine absorption and retention in the muscle. This is why experts have been telling bodybuilders to take their creatine with juice. Unfortunately, fruit juice doesn't optimize creatine absorption and retention. When you consume creatine with juice, you're basically trying to increase the body's output of insulin, which researchers suggest helps to increase protein synthesis and muscle growth. The more insulin released at the right time (with ingestion of a large amount of high-glycemic-index carbohydrates), the more potential there is for creatine, glucose, and other nutrients (such as amino acids) to be shuttled into your muscles. This increase in nutrient and creatine retention ultimately leads to increased strength, greater endurance, and more muscle growth.
When it comes to improving creatine retention in the muscles, only one type of carbohydrate is important -- dextrose. Dr. Paul Greenhaff, one of the world's leading creatine experts, conducted a creatine study in 1995 and found that a large amount of dextrose (a high-glycemic-index carbohydrate) created a large enough insulin spike to help shuttle creatine more efficiently into the muscles.
FYI I currently use Gaspari Size On Max. this has Creatine and D-glucose is often referred to as dextrose, (all in one)
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Calories From Fat 0
Total Fat 0g 0%
Saturated Fat 0g 0%
Trans Fat 0g *
Cholesterol 15mg 5%
Total Carbohydrate 39g 13%
Dietary Fiber 0g 0%
Sugars (From Isomaltulose, D-Glucose, And Trehalose) 37g *
Protein 7g 13%
Vitamin C (As Ascorbic Acid) 60mg 100%
Thiamin (As Thiamin Hydrochloride) 10mg 667%
Riboflavin (As Riboflavin-5-Phosphate) 7.6mg 447%
Niacin (As Niacinamide) 50mg 250%
Vitamin B6 (As Pyridoxine-5-Phosphate) 16.8mg 838%
Folate (As Folic Acid) 200mcg 50%
Vitamin B12 (As Methylcobalamin) 75mcg 1,250%
Pantothenic Acid (As D-Calcium Pantothenate) 9mg 92%
Calcium 51mg 5%
Phosphorus 103mg 10%
Magnesium 45mg 11%
Sodium 280mg 12%
Potassium 125mg 4%
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