oxyelite pro and white flood

[seriouslifter]

can i take both of these at the same time? also PW.

[pu12en12g]

oxyelite pro and white flood

can i take both of these at the same time? also PW.

Not my first choice for a stack, that's for sure

[dekd]

Too much stims. The OEP and PW will be enough

[seriouslifter]

OEP is a fat loss, i thought i was using WF for heavy training and such.

[dekd]

OEP is a fat loss, i thought i was using WF for heavy training and such.

All the stimulants are gonna cause you issues though. The oep should be enough to give you energy for your workouts

[seriouslifter]

All the stimulants are gonna cause you issues though. The oep should be enough to give you energy for your workouts

really makes sense. seems like OEP and PW and then when im done with OEP and its time to bulk. im doing WF and PW. what kind of stimulant is this?

[Alkaline]

I'd stick to 1 OEP in the morning and WF pre workout. Any more than 1 OEP and my Pre I run into issues.

[seriouslifter]

I'd stick to 1 OEP in the morning and WF pre workout. Any more than 1 OEP and my Pre I run into issues.

im just gonna get OEP and PW. you guys are right. i dont even need WF right now. im cutting and i actually am getting stronger and im having good workouts right now. i thought i try WF, but i will when i bulk

[seriouslifter]

whats really the jitters i would get?

[Feargodfearme]

I'd stick to 1 OEP in the morning and WF pre workout. Any more than 1 OEP and my Pre I run into issues.

what are these issues?

[nyceboy]

bumpppp

[CONTROLLED LABS]

dont take them within 5 hours of eachother

[triplewhammy]

dont take them within 5 hours of eachother

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[user1111]

dont take them within 5 hours of eachother

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[qbanlinx]

can/should a fat burner be taken with NO supps? i've heard that common fat burner properties cause vasoconstriction while arginine & citrulline cause vasodilation; if this is the case are they imposing opposite effects and resulting in a waste or $$?

what i'd ultimately like to know is if this is true and if so, should I take OEP without arginine & citrulline in my pre-workout mix?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

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can/should a fat burner be taken with NO supps? i've heard that common fat burner properties cause vasoconstriction while arginine & citrulline cause vasodilation; if this is the case are they imposing opposite effects and resulting in a waste or $$?

what i'd ultimately like to know is if this is true and if so, should I take OEP without arginine & citrulline in my pre-workout mix?

there is no reason you cant combine them, but for the sake of the stim overload, they should be separated

[sammycarrasco]

Hey guys really looking for some solid good advice..im trying to make sure i do whats right but not very educated on it...i just bought the OEP today was my first time taking it...i am currently taking my plasmajets with WHITEFLOOD for PW and SIze ON PreContest during workout..i want to know is it ok to have a stack like this or is it way to much to take..
im taking 1 OEP before breakfast hrs later and 2hrs before workout i take my plasmajets(which i will be done this week) and 30min before workout i take the whiteflood..ive been looking for good advice but some have their different opinions so i need to know is too much????

[Sethaniel]

Yeah u can, but keep the doses apart. EXAMPLE. No workout days, i serving of OEP in the morning and afternoon. WORKOUT days: 1 serving of OEP, Skip the second serving and take WHite flood preworkout, or vice verse just make sure your OEP serving and white flood serving are round 6 hours apart.

[sammycarrasco]

Yeah u can, but keep the doses apart. EXAMPLE. No workout days, i serving of OEP in the morning and afternoon. WORKOUT days: 1 serving of OEP, Skip the second serving and take WHite flood preworkout, or vice verse just make sure your OEP serving and white flood serving are round 6 hours apart.

thanks i reallty appreciate that..im guesing i can up the dose in the morning once im comfortable with it also

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Yeah u can, but keep the doses apart. EXAMPLE. No workout days, i serving of OEP in the morning and afternoon. WORKOUT days: 1 serving of OEP, Skip the second serving and take WHite flood preworkout, or vice verse just make sure your OEP serving and white flood serving are round 6 hours apart.

exactly. although I never suggest 1,3 dimeth in general.

[GET_SOM]

Yeah u can, but keep the doses apart. EXAMPLE. No workout days, i serving of OEP in the morning and afternoon. WORKOUT days: 1 serving of OEP, Skip the second serving and take WHite flood preworkout, or vice verse just make sure your OEP serving and white flood serving are round 6 hours apart.

I've read that by taking the OEP and WF, that you're overstimulating the thyroid? Is that correct?

Also, what exactly causes the over stimulation.. is it the NO or Arginine?

[pu12en12g]

I've read that by taking the OEP and WF, that you're overstimulating the thyroid? Is that correct?

The THYROID ?

WAY off imo... where did you hear that ?

[pu12en12g]

Were you thinking about Adrenal Fatigue ?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I've read that by taking the OEP and WF, that you're overstimulating the thyroid? Is that correct?

Also, what exactly causes the over stimulation.. is it the NO or Arginine?

white flood doesnt affect the thyroid, stimulants will effect the adrenal glands output