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    Can one day ruin a whole weeks diet?

    Last weekend I gorged on saturday and I feel like it ruined all the hard work that I did throughout the week. I am just wondering if one day really can cancel our a weeks worth of hard work, I am not stopping my diet obviously but I'm just wondering if its ok to gorge once a week at least.
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    It depends, glycogen stores and leptin can help offset a bit of a cheat but if you go to far it can.
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    Simply - yes. If you want to make any progress you can't cheat. A little cheat meal once a week isn't going to hurt anything and can help keep you sane, but if you're pigging out once a week you're not going to get anywhere, assuming you're trying to cut.
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    i believe u can because for example u've been cutting 500 calories per day, and at the end of the week u ate 3000 calories more, which means ur not cutting the calorie for the week.
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    Originally Posted by dooopy View Post
    i believe u can because for example u've been cutting 500 calories per day, and at the end of the week u ate 3000 calories more, which means ur not cutting the calorie for the week.
    It doesn't work quite so cut and dry like that but if the cheat number gets too high yes it will ruin progress.
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    yes cheat once a week and do extra cardio to make up for it
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    Just drop your daily calories by an extra amount each day (say 100) and have them all on your cheat day.
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    OP, yes it can. For a long time I would diet perfectly for 6 days, have a "cheat day" where I binged on whatever, then I wondered why I couldn't make any progress. I was basically just spinning my wheels and breaking even. Don't gorge.
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    definately. you said "one day" and not one meal. a day's worth of gorging can take you out of your defecit easy. specially if you gorge like i used to
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    Originally Posted by ShrugginThug View Post
    definately. you said "one day" and not one meal. a day's worth of gorging can take you out of your defecit easy. specially if you gorge like i used to
    lol describe ur gorge?

    mine is like 2500 cals of icecream and topping in one sitting down the hatch in about 30 mins
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    Originally Posted by MAGnitude View Post
    lol describe ur gorge?

    mine is like 2500 cals of icecream and topping in one sitting down the hatch in about 30 mins
    well, back when i was sub 400 el bees. i'd go to the chinese buffet, and get the to go box. i think the price was like 4.99 a pound, and the bill would be like $16 average. and it wasn't filled with carrot sticks and broccoli spears, lol
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    Originally Posted by ShrugginThug View Post
    well, back when i was sub 400 el bees. i'd go to the chinese buffet, and get the to go box. i think the price was like 4.99 a pound, and the bill would be like $16 average. and it wasn't filled with carrot sticks and broccoli spears, lol
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    Coming from experience. I have had one cheat day a week and still lost weight. But I am also 20-25% BF I think it might be harder for a person with less BF%. I have went from 215 down to 165 while having 1 cheat day...But now im upping my calories throughout the week so I dont think I will have a full blown cheat day anymore...Maybe a cheat meal .

    Also, This could be a problem for people with Binge eating disorder which tends to mess them up throughout the coming week.

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    It really depends on how much you ate on your 'cheat day'. A whole day's worth of bad food would probably have detrimental effects, but one meal probably wouldn't hurt. Of course if you have crappy metabolism like mine, it might hurt worse than you'd think.
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    Of course it can. I stayed at the same bodyfat for like a month while "cutting" cause i would have a binge day every week. You can get away with a responsible cheat meal every week. But even that I don't recommend. If your cutting just learn some portion control and either work your favorite foods into your daily calorie goal or just have one meal every week or two that is whatever you want....whatever you want food wise, not calorie wise. Every thing counts and Its ALOT easier to rack up a surplus than it is to create a deficit. Its really not even that hard to go 10-12 weeks cutting without a cheat. Its all mental, you definitely don't need it!
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    If you have a good deficit going 6 and 1/2 days a week a single meal will not hurt you, unless we're talking about a 3kcalorie meal+

    And even if we were, a simple dietary deficit of 500kcalories a day leaves you even, not even counting your exercise calories.

    Don't sweat it, but put a little effort into making your cheat meals both satisfying and smart.
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    I have been eating good and clean for a few months. I just moved to San Francisco so I've been out getting drunk as **** every other day BUT I've been eating real clean till last night. I went to a ****ing vintage McDonald's in Oakland and got a double cheeseburger and a double quarter pounder (half-pounder?). I weighed myself today and I'm 178 but I think that's more of a diuretic effect from drinking so much. Either way my point is that gorging all day is trouble, but messing up a meal won't undo the progress you've made. And if you feel bad about it, go bust your ass in the gym.
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    lets see, my cheat day consisted of a 20 piece chicken nugget meal with large fries and a large iced coffee which was all cream pretty much. And then later I had a like 20 pieces of sushi and then a hamburger with fries later at night.
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    My idea of 'trying to lose weight' was to diet strictly for 6-10 days and then freak out and eat as much as I possibly could like I was trying to punish myself. I'm talking about giant milkshakes, entire packages of oreos, serious self-hatred style.

    Now my rule is no-gorging-ever. Feels so much better, and I've dropped 20lbs of fat since November. ('cheat meals' or refeed days are cool though I guess)
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    no way... i have found that i actually get better results if i have a cheat day once a week. Just make sure you get back on your plan the next day and you will be fine.
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    Originally Posted by Twitch9254 View Post
    Last weekend I gorged on saturday and I feel like it ruined all the hard work that I did throughout the week. I am just wondering if one day really can cancel our a weeks worth of hard work, I am not stopping my diet obviously but I'm just wondering if its ok to gorge once a week at least.
    No it cant unless you make a habit of it. It is the things we do consistently that have the greatest effect on us.

    If you overeat by 1000 calories one day but were in a 500 a day deficit all week the 1000 divided by 7 days means you dropped your average deficit by about 140 calories. It is not that linear and probably less impact than the math would suggest.
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    If you're in a deficit of 500 calories per day Monday thru Saturday (3,000 calorie deficit for six days) and you cheat on sunday, to successfully screw up your progress you would have to eat 3,000 calories over your maintenance that day.
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    yes. if your maintencance is 3000 and you eat 10 000 cal. it ruins a lot. (I know this is a big number, there are people capable doing that.)
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    yes. if your maintencance is 3000 and you eat 10 000 cal. it ruins a lot. (I know this is a big number, there are people capable doing that.)
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