Is stan mcquay really natural?

[Ctrain24]

I was searching natural bodybuilders on this website and stan mcquay came up and someone on this forum posted a picture of him saying he was a great example of a chemical free athelete but upon youtubing him and trying to google some pics im seeing him under road to olympia back in 02 which would tell me hes not natural because I dont see how you could be going up against Ronnie Coleman, and Jay Cutler.

Im trying to see what some of the biggest natural bodybuilders look like. Its very hard to find them. Can anyone help me out?

[Pete3]

i think he was when he turned pro, and he is no longer natural

[iForce Dave]

aha

no

[DPNZ]

Congratulations on being the 1215th person to make this exact thread.

[joffy192]

Congratulations on being the 1215th person to make this exact thread.

Same here, but no I don't think he's natty anymore.

[tsiparlanaeht]

no.

[Whey Hey]

I was searching natural bodybuilders on this website and stan mcquay came up and someone on this forum posted a picture of him saying he was a great example of a chemical free athelete but upon youtubing him and trying to google some pics im seeing him under road to olympia back in 02 which would tell me hes not natural because I dont see how you could be going up against Ronnie Coleman, and Jay Cutler.

Im trying to see what some of the biggest natural bodybuilders look like. Its very hard to find them. Can anyone help me out?

Instead of flaming you im gonna provide you with some pics of the biggest natties....

Doug Miller:





Jim Cordova:



Tommy Jeffers:



To name a few.... there are more of course, but Doug is one of the biggest natties i would say..

[Hengman]

I met Tommie Jeffers before. Real down-to-earth guy.

Anyways, I really don't see much around nowadays. Skip is natural, I guess. I met a lot of guys who claim 'natural' but I certainly can tell that they weren't. Also met the opposite who claimed to juice but never did a cycle.

Stan looks A LOT different than before.

[Whey Hey]

I met Tommie Jeffers before. Real down-to-earth guy.

Anyways, I really don't see much around nowadays. Skip is natural, I guess. I met a lot of guys who claim 'natural' but I certainly can tell that they weren't. Also met the opposite who claimed to juice but never did a cycle.

Stan looks A LOT different than before.

Yeah Tommy is one of my favourite natties. Its impressive to see natural guys shifting alot of weight and still achieve a good amount of mass, for example Layne deadlifting around 700lbs, and Tommy regularly squats with impressive weight, and his straightbarbell curls are insane (like 150-160lbs)

And thats just their lifts, apart from that they look phenomenal too

[mindgame]

Stan used to be a natty. I pretty sure hes not anymore. I heard skip is no longer a natty but who knows. I think he is

[Animaul]

I met Tommie Jeffers before. Real down-to-earth guy.

Anyways, I really don't see much around nowadays. Skip is natural, I guess. I met a lot of guys who claim 'natural' but I certainly can tell that they weren't. Also met the opposite who claimed to juice but never did a cycle.

Stan looks A LOT different than before.

Just wondering bro......Why would someone claim to be juicing when they dont? Isnt that sorta a negative to do esp if they are huge?

[Hengman]

Just wondering bro......Why would someone claim to be juicing when they dont? Isnt that sorta a negative to do esp if they are huge?

I met a lot of guys who just claim it... However, their claims do not make sense when I question them about AAS usage as I study on the subject A LOT.

Some people say it just to say it. Some say it for an ego. Whatever the case is, I call it out. People are people though.

I remember last year, I met this former cop who told me he uses D-Bol and Deca (all he told me were these). I was looking at him, and I was like, "How was your cycle?" The guy claimed to do it for a 8 week term, but I never saw ANY results from him while it was everyday I was in the gym (last year, I was in the gym 7 days a week at the same time everyday that he comes in). I saw him lift the same weight, look the same, and he was just...the same. Even after 8 weeks later, I was thinking to myself, "Why the **** does he still look and lift the same?" Kind of fishy to me... I should of asked him to give me a free script LOL

[Ctrain24]

Thank you Whey Hey for not flaming and posting awesome pictures. I know this thread has been asked before..I used the search button however I only found like 3 different bodybuilders listed, because only a few people responded and posted pics of the same guy which is fine but I just wanted to see a few others.

The pictures that were posted I did not find when I googled or tried to youtube anybody. Ive been lifting on and off for awhile often becoming discouraged and I just wanted to see what these guys could do when not taking all the drugs that the mainstream pros do. I just wanted to see both sides because all I can find anymore are the guys that do use steroids. I know both sides take very hard work and dedication but just wanted to see the natty guys so thanks for the replies guys.

[Whey Hey]

Thank you Whey Hey for not flaming and posting awesome pictures. I know this thread has been asked before..I used the search button however I only found like 3 different bodybuilders listed, because only a few people responded and posted pics of the same guy which is fine but I just wanted to see a few others.

The pictures that were posted I did not find when I googled or tried to youtube anybody. Ive been lifting on and off for awhile often becoming discouraged and I just wanted to see what these guys could do when not taking all the drugs that the mainstream pros do. I just wanted to see both sides because all I can find anymore are the guys that do use steroids. I know both sides take very hard work and dedication but just wanted to see the natty guys so thanks for the replies guys.

No probs, if you genuinely didnt know the names of other Natural Pros then i dont see a reason to go "OMGZ USE GOOGLE U FKING IDIOT TROLL", i would rather just be helpful and actually post some pics of well known natties.

[KarateChris]

I met a lot of guys who just claim it... However, their claims do not make sense when I question them about AAS usage as I study on the subject A LOT.

Some people say it just to say it. Some say it for an ego. Whatever the case is, I call it out. People are people though.

I remember last year, I met this former cop who told me he uses D-Bol and Deca (all he told me were these). I was looking at him, and I was like, "How was your cycle?" The guy claimed to do it for a 8 week term, but I never saw ANY results from him while it was everyday I was in the gym (last year, I was in the gym 7 days a week at the same time everyday that he comes in). I saw him lift the same weight, look the same, and he was just...the same. Even after 8 weeks later, I was thinking to myself, "Why the **** does he still look and lift the same?" Kind of fishy to me... I should of asked him to give me a free script LOL

That could be anything from he got fake gear to dude didn't know what the hell he was doing. Just because you take AAS doesn't mean you're going to blow up/look drastically different/look like Arnold after one cycle. It doesn't work that way...

[Hengman]

That could be anything from he got fake gear to dude didn't know what the hell he was doing. Just because you take AAS doesn't mean you're going to blow up/look drastically different/look like Arnold after one cycle. It doesn't work that way...

Of course, but I wouldn't take any of the claims into concern as there should be some kind of result from using what he used.

Could be fake gear, but that's still not the real stuff in the end, which really is just injecting placebos into himself. LOL

People I've seen who used gear from being natty all had some kind of results. If anything, I would of seen the guy a little more round or bigger (and bloated) especially using what he used. It wasn't just his claims of using gear, it was also the amounts he was telling me he was taking and how he took it, etc. Oh well... I should of asked him for his script and if he could get me a couple of scripts.

Too bad now. He's probably saving lives at the moment.

[Loctus]

Funny that you were searching for natural bodybuilders, but didn't use the search function before making this thread.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=122028091
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=120680301

[socket]

I was searching natural bodybuilders on this website and stan mcquay came up and someone on this forum posted a picture of him saying he was a great example of a chemical free athelete but upon youtubing him and trying to google some pics im seeing him under road to olympia back in 02 which would tell me hes not natural because I dont see how you could be going up against Ronnie Coleman, and Jay Cutler.

Im trying to see what some of the biggest natural bodybuilders look like. Its very hard to find them. Can anyone help me out?

OP, the only person you will ever really know the truth about is yourself. It's that simple. Go ask Stan if he's natty. k.

reps to hey whey for helping OP. I don't have the patients. The "who's natty" questions are getting old. No one on this board can say for sure, so why speculate?

[Big Slim DaDDy]

People I've seen who used gear from being natty all had some kind of results. If anything, I would of seen the guy a little more round or bigger (and bloated) especially using what he used. It wasn't just his claims of using gear, it was also the amounts he was telling me he was taking and how he took it, etc. Oh well... I should of asked him for his script and if he could get me a couple of scripts.

Too bad now. He's probably saving lives at the moment.

Noone says they took steroids to impress people if they didn't. You not being impressed with his gains doesn't mean he didnt take anything.

[Hengman]

Noone says they took steroids to impress people if they didn't. You not being impressed with his gains doesn't mean he didnt take anything.

You'd be quite surprised...

In a gym I go to, the atmosphere is supposed to be hardcore (the gym is endorsed by Animal, I think? A couple of actual IFBB pros and top national competitors trained there before).

Some people really just say it just to say it so they don't feel left out... All I can think of is the environment, like my gym.

Some people would just make claims because they don't wanna feel like they're smaller. To me, I'm still suspicious of that guy as he didn't make any type of progression in the 8 weeks I was around. I would see progress from everyone in 8 weeks (which is enough time to notice gains or losses). A cycle really doesn't mean ****, but there has to be something up if nothing is happening. Get what I mean? I'm just suspicious at what the guy told me how much he uses than what he uses. However, I'm just telling what I experienced, that's all. Some guys actually do make claims...like some say they're natural, and I would see some winny in their bags.

[Big Slim DaDDy]

OP, the only person you will ever really know the truth about is yourself. It's that simple. Go ask Stan if he's natty. k.

reps to hey whey for helping OP. I don't have the patients. The "who's natty" questions are getting old. No one on this board can say for sure, so why speculate?

This.

Making these threads is pointless because some people will say yes and some no and who are you supposed to trust? Neither, only the person you are inquiring about knows.

[TrainOfThought]

As natural as my big ol' boner after a few hits of viagra..

too much info?

[XX400EX]

They can't come out and say hey i juice. Reason why is because they will loose there sponcerships with supp co's. They want the ave consumer to think oh wow if i take this ill be huge lol.

[Devils]

brb being natural and bigger and more conditioned that most of the 70's 80's bodybuilders.

[Big Slim DaDDy]

They can't come out and say hey i juice. Reason why is because they will loose there sponcerships with supp co's. They want the ave consumer to think oh wow if i take this ill be huge lol.

You mean people would lie for the sake of money?



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[islandcoli]

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[Ctrain24]

I did use the search function before I made a thread. I found a couple but I wanted to see more of the natural guys. I looked in google for some images and I looked on youtube to try and find some videos. All of the guys that Whey Hey posted I had not come across on google or youtube and didn't see them in the other threads I checked. I gave him rep because it was an informative post. I asked a question and instead of being a keyboard commando he posted something useful.

I know that the only person I can be sure of is myself but I don't see what the big deal is of trying to see some of the guys that are participating in natural competitions. Is that to say they don't juice at all and somehow get around it? I don't know but to just look around and get some ideas I don't think is causing any problems.

Some people take 5 minutes out of their day to type something that doesn't help and they want to be an ass about it. Fine I don't really care. I just think its sort of stupid that they can't take the same 5 minutes and post something useful. It's not that hard and it doesnt mean the OP didn't attempt to search although sometimes that is the case.

[TrainOfThought]

I did use the search function before I made a thread. I found a couple but I wanted to see more of the natural guys. I looked in google for some images and I looked on youtube to try and find some videos. All of the guys that Whey Hey posted I had not come across on google or youtube and didn't see them in the other threads I checked. I gave him rep because it was an informative post. I asked a question and instead of being a keyboard commando he posted something useful.

I know that the only person I can be sure of is myself but I don't see what the big deal is of trying to see some of the guys that are participating in natural competitions. Is that to say they don't juice at all and somehow get around it? I don't know but to just look around and get some ideas I don't think is causing any problems.

Some people take 5 minutes out of their day to type something that doesn't help and they want to be an ass about it. Fine I don't really care. I just think its sort of stupid that they can't take the same 5 minutes and post something useful. It's not that hard and it doesnt mean the OP didn't attempt to search although sometimes that is the case.

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[Ctrain24]

Thanks

[Adjusting]

Is it considered natural when you get test from a script?