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10-19-2010, 07:25 AM #301
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10-19-2010, 07:44 AM #302
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haha, I looked SWOLLEN not smooth b/c I was holding water. i woke up the Monday after the show at like 210lbs, but looked like my old 240lb self! Mainly my chest, abs, and ankles were swollen. After doing some cardio and eating clean, I was down to 201 by Saturday. But I'm back up again b/c of last Sunday.
I guess you live and learn. Next time post contest (or post season for that matter) I'll binge on the meal right after the show, but then slowly add calories back in for a few weeks. I've learned that my body just can't handle all that food right away. Also, I hadn't really had any alcohol in like a year and had a few beers watching football the Sunday with after the show with Paul and some friends. I think this is what really made me spill over.
Either way, it's not that big of a deal since I don't plan on competing again until 2012. It just messed with my mind for a few days, but I think I'm passed the mental hurdle. I'm in this for the long haul, and DO need to get bigger, which means I'll lose some detail along the way. Plus, I can always do 4-6 week mini-cut in a few months if I really want to lean up again since I know how to diet down correctly now.
Hope this provides some insight for you, maybe you can take some precautions after your show next yearLack of activity destroys the good condition of every human being, while movement and methodical physical exercise save it and preserve it. ~Plato
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10-19-2010, 07:55 AM #303
Thanks!
I've read about guys getting bloated and I wasn't sure exactly what they meant.
This is one of the reasons I'm running this dry run. I not only want to know how long it takes to drop the fluff but also how to put on size afterwards without fluffing up again.
I plan to add calories back into my diet slowly once I reach my goal for this dry run.
I want to stay as lean as possible while adding some size.
I don't want to hard diet down next spring.She approached with her hand extended,. I slowly stepped back. "No" she said. "I just want to shake your hand. You're amazingly gorgeous." As she walked by me she copped a biceps feel.
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10-19-2010, 08:08 AM #304
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This is pretty much exactly how I feel. I certainly didn't diet as long as you, but I still needed to slowly add calories back in and take things slowly... and then you get that mental mindf*ck where you feel like you're nearly obese or something lol.
I also know that, if I ever even want to dream of competing, I need to add some size and so I'm trying to stay committed to that instead of thinking "why don't I have the definition I had when I was at my absolute leanest this summer?" I think minicuts along the way are a great way to handle some of that... I'm planning on continuing the bulk up until Thanksgiving which would put me right @ the 12 week mark, running a 4 week minicut, and then another 12 weeks of bulking to start the year.New log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=144101461
Best meet lifts: 424/303/551 (93kg)
Best gym lifts: 420/290/565
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10-20-2010, 07:44 AM #305
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10-20-2010, 08:15 AM #306
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Sounds like a great plan!
Yeah, also the mini-cuts can let you experiment a little with the diet as well as try to find new recipes/foods and how your body responds to them. Plus, one can kind of get mentally prepared for a real contest-prep diet. Once you diet for 4-6 weeks a few times, extending it out to 16-20+ won't be that bad.
You know it!Lack of activity destroys the good condition of every human being, while movement and methodical physical exercise save it and preserve it. ~Plato
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10-21-2010, 08:01 AM #307
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Tri-Phase Week 1, Workout 2
October 20, 2010
Decline Bench Press
185x10, 185x10, 205x10
Low Incline DB Press
75x10, 75x10, 85x10
Dips
BW+35x10, 3 sets
BB Shoulder Press
135x10, 3 sets
Side Lateral DB Raise
30x10, 3 sets
15 recumbent bike, 12 minutes sauna
Another "feeler" type of workout. Pace was pretty fast and my chest and shoulders got a great pump. We decided to switch it up do the decline bench, mainly b/c Paul suggested using it after reading/seeing some Dorian Yates videos that suggest it's the best movement for chest thickness. I also liked the low incline DB movement, since you still work the chest but it saves the shoulders a bit for later in the workout.
Woke up today at 205.1 and still carrying some bloat, however not at much. To me I just look weird b/c I still see good vascularity in my arms and legs -- even saw one or two in the quad teardrops this AM -- but my chest/abs are just smooth and swollen looking still. I'm gonna still watch my calories and do some treadmill walking later tonight to get a sweat. If I get can get back to around 200lbs or so in the next few days, then I'll start increasing calories on all days.
Looking forward to legs this Friday, I think a nice leg workout will get a good sweat going and get this water moving out of my body.Lack of activity destroys the good condition of every human being, while movement and methodical physical exercise save it and preserve it. ~Plato
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10-21-2010, 08:38 AM #308
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10-25-2010, 06:54 AM #309
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Tri-Phase Week 1, Workout 3
October 22, 2010
Hack Squat
360x10, 2 sets, 360x7/315x3
Squat
185x10, 3 sets
Cybex Leg Press
450x10, 3 sets
SLDL
225x10, 3 sets
Single Leg Curl
70x10, 80x10, 90x10
Tri-Phase Week 1, Workout 4
October 23, 2010
Standing Barbell Curl
105x10, 2 sets, 95x10
Skull Crusher
105x10, 105x7, 95x10
Close Grip Bench Press
135x10, 155x10, 135x10
Hammer Curls
45x10, 50x10, 2 sets
Seated Calf Press
180x10, 205x10, 205x10
Calf Extension Machine
180x10, 225x10, 225x10
Both days in the gym were good, legs are still sore from Friday's workout and my arms and calves felt nice and full when Saturday's lifting was done. Went a little off the diet again this weekend, but this was somewhat planned. I gave myself a 2 week window post show to kinda do what I wanted. For the most part my diet's been on point during the week, so the only thing I have to do now is keep my weekends in check more. I want to grow, but want the growth to come more from muscle haha.
Tonight is back/traps. We'll be deadlifting, not sure how this will go since my legs are still hurting. Hopefully once I get some blood flowing and stretch a bit it will be all good.Lack of activity destroys the good condition of every human being, while movement and methodical physical exercise save it and preserve it. ~Plato
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10-25-2010, 07:24 AM #310
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What do you like to do as far as warmups go to loosen up the legs?
I noticed that was my biggest challenge compliance-wise when transitioning to teh bulking phase was the weekends - but like you said, I think you've earned yourself a good "break" given how hard you worked to get that lean.New log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=144101461
Best meet lifts: 424/303/551 (93kg)
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10-26-2010, 07:11 AM #311
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Tri-Phase, Week 2, Workout 1
October 25, 2010
Deadlifts
315x9, 315x10, 335x10, 275x10
High Cable Pull downs
145x10, 160x10, 175x10, 175x10
Flex Fitness Low Row
4 sets of 10
Supported T bar rows, wide grip
90x10, 100x10, 100x8, 90x10
Smith Shrugs
225x10, 315x10, 315x10, 315x10
DB Shrugs
105x10, 115x10, 125x10, 125x10
Leg were still very sore going into last nights workout, but it was mainly my quads so it didn't affect my deadlifting. I had to stop a rep short on my first set of deadlifts b/c my stomach wasn't feeling right and didn't want an accident in the gym, if you catch my drift. My goal last night was to get 335 for 10 on deadlifts, which was accomplished. After deads, Paul and I kept a good pace the rest of the night. The gym was a little crowded and we didn't want to wait for the HS iso low row machine, but found the Flex Fitness machine to do the trick, forgot the weights we used, but we got our 4 sets of 10 while keeping good form, machine actually felt pretty nice.
Tonight for me will be a little bit of steady state cardio at Gold's. My fiancée will be working out there tonight, so I'll go with her to get some cardio in, maybe they'll be playing a nice movie in the cardio cinema
Diet was spot on yesterday, and I felt so much more energy b/c I ate clean. I even had my new favorite recipe before bed, a low-carb chicken pizza (i recently read about these in layne norton's thread). Basically it's a low-carb tortilla with light tomato sauce, fat free shredded cheese, and some chicken breast, baked @ 400 degrees for around 12 minutes. Macro profile from last night: 23.6c / 45.2p / 3.5f... threw in some caramel corn rice cakes with natty PB to meet my needs, and went to bed happy. I only wish I would've known about these things during my prep...Lack of activity destroys the good condition of every human being, while movement and methodical physical exercise save it and preserve it. ~Plato
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10-26-2010, 07:20 AM #312
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I either walk at an incline on a treadmill or ride a bike for a few minutes and then do some light leg extensions and leg curls to get the joints loose and the blood flowing. I just watched a video from the new Dorian Yates series talking about active stretching for your legs (vs static stretching). I haven't tried this yet, but if he says it helps get the legs ready, I'd trust him! Think I might try his methods this Friday before legs.
Weekends have killed me the past two weeks, not just b/c I don't look lean at all right now, but I feel like crap as well. But I'm just gonna get back into my prep mindset and not let anything tempt me. I find it easier to stay on a diet if there is a goal attached to it, so my goal is no binging/cheating until Thanksgiving I'll still give myself 1-2 free meals a week, but won't go overboard with anything.Lack of activity destroys the good condition of every human being, while movement and methodical physical exercise save it and preserve it. ~Plato
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10-28-2010, 05:41 AM #313
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Tri-Phase, Week 2, Workout 2
October 27, 2010
Decline Bench Press
185x10, 225x10, 225x10, 225x10
Low Incline DB Press
75x10, 90x10, 80x10, 75x10
Dips
BWx10, BW+50x7/BWx3, BW+40x8/BWx2, BWx10
Seated BB Shoulder Press
95x10, 135x10, 135x8, 115x10
DB Lateral Raises
30x10, 35x10, 3 sets
15 minutes SS cardio on bike.
Good night in the gym. I felt pretty strong on the decline presses, and I can attest that they definitely work the entire pec b/c the incline presses and dips were pretty difficult after pushing myself so hard on the decline bench. By the time we got to shoulders, I was pretty fatigued and for each set of the shoulder press, the weight started out feeling light but by the 6-7th rep it felt like a ton of bricks. Regardless, I finished the workout with a crazy pump in both my chest and shoulders, which always feels good.
Resting somewhat today. I'll probably stop and do some cardio on the way home to get a sweat going. Other than that, I'll get as much rest as possible and try to get ready for the leg day on Friday.
Also, my weight is starting to normalize around 205 I think. Since I'm going to continue eating clean, this may drop down a couple of more lbs, but I'm feeling better and the bloat is finally starting to go away.Lack of activity destroys the good condition of every human being, while movement and methodical physical exercise save it and preserve it. ~Plato
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10-28-2010, 06:10 AM #314
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3 sets for 10 @ 225 on decline is no joke.
That is definitely a feeling I have a love/hate relationship with - when you start off an exercise and the weight feels so light then you cross some threshold and all of a sudden it feels like it has doubled in weight from teh start....New log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=144101461
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Best gym lifts: 420/290/565
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10-28-2010, 06:16 AM #315
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yeah, i like to push myself, I believe this will get me stronger/bigger, but there's something about telling your body/muscle to do something and nothing happens, no matter how hard you try to move the weight. Luckily i had a good spot... Paul should have noted his curl work in his log from last night though, lol.
Lack of activity destroys the good condition of every human being, while movement and methodical physical exercise save it and preserve it. ~Plato
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10-28-2010, 07:44 AM #316
Mr. Yates was right about the decline bench and the low incline DB presses!
I take it you liked it.
I started rotating the decline bench with the other 2 pressing movements.
One week decline is first then second then third. This allows me to go heavier on the DB presses.
I love doing spotter curls!...LOL!She approached with her hand extended,. I slowly stepped back. "No" she said. "I just want to shake your hand. You're amazingly gorgeous." As she walked by me she copped a biceps feel.
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10-28-2010, 08:04 AM #317
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11-01-2010, 06:21 AM #318
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Tri-Phase, Week 2, Workout 3
October 29, 2010
Hack Squat
360x10, 410x7, 360x10, 360x10
Squat
185x10, 225x8, 225x8, 225x9
SLDL
225x10, 245x10, 265x10, 275x10
Cybex Leg Press Single Leg
90x10, 135x10, 135x10, 135x29
Single Leg Curl
80x10, 90x10, 100x10, 100x10
Tri-Phase, Week 2, Workout 4
October 30, 2010
Barbell Curls
105x10, 115x10, 120x7, 105x10
Skull Crushers
95x10, 105x8, 95x10, 95x10
Close Grip Bench Press
135x10, 155x10, 165x10, 175x10
Hammer Curls
45x10, 50x10, 55x10, 60x7
Seated Calf Raises
180x10, 225x8, 225x6, 180x10
Free Motion Calf Press
240x10, 300x10, 360x10, 400x10
Another great leg workout as they are still a bit sore this morning. I like the added leg press movement because when performing the lift with good range of motion, my quads are hit at the top and my hams/glutes are hit at the bottom. Since I haven't been doing too much of this movement over the past year or so, this may be why my legs are so sore, it might also be the final set Paul and I did to failure
All my lifts for both legs and arms seem to be improving, maybe not in weight, but at least in the amount of reps achieved in each set.
Weekend was pretty crazy, lots of family things going on as well as getting everything organized b/c I'm moving across town this weekend. Hopefully this week I can get everything accomplished while keeping my diet/training in check. Back/traps tonight, deadlifts are gonna be a killer.Lack of activity destroys the good condition of every human being, while movement and methodical physical exercise save it and preserve it. ~Plato
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11-02-2010, 05:41 AM #319
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Tri-Phase, Week 3, Workout 1
November 1, 2010
Deadlifts
315x10, 335x8, 365x5, 315x10, 315x10
High Cable Pull downs
130x10, 155x10, 175x10, 155x10, 155x10
Supported T bar rows, wide grip
70x10, 80x10, 4 sets
Nautilus Compound Row / HS Low Row
90x10, 140x10, 140x10 / 180x10, 180x10
Smith Shrugs
225x10, 5 sets
DB Shrugs
75x10, 5 sets
Last night was a tough one in the gym, especially deadlifts. My hamstrings were very tight and sore still from Friday's leg workout, so I think this is the reason. I could never get them fully warmed up. I could have pushed a few of the sets for an extra rep or two, but with the hamstrings not at full strength, I felt my form breaking and I wanted to avoid any injuries. For the rest of the workout, the weights were kept in the conservative range and my focus was more on a good contraction. By the end, my lats, upper back, and traps had a great pump.
Since I didn't do any cardio yesterday, I'll get some in today after work, then it's back to packing for my big move this weekend. Already looking forward to chest/shoulders this Wednesday though.
And BTW... Happy Movember!
Lack of activity destroys the good condition of every human being, while movement and methodical physical exercise save it and preserve it. ~Plato
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11-02-2010, 07:46 AM #321
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11-02-2010, 01:00 PM #323
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haha, unfortunately that pic was from the end of last november, or movember... not growing out the stache this year, i'll just donate... here's link for anyone else that's interested: http://us.movember.com/
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11-04-2010, 05:47 AM #324
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Tri-Phase, Week 3, Workout 2
November 3, 2010
Decline Bench Press
185x10, 185x10, 185x10, 225x10, 245x6
Low Incline DB Press
80x11, 80x9, 80x8, 70x10, 70x10
Dips
BW+35x10, BW+50x8, BW+50x8, BW+50x7, BWx50x8
BB Shoulder Press
95x10, 135x10, 135x7, 115x10, 115x10
DB Lateral Raise
30x10, 35x10, 40x10, 40x10, 35x10
15 minutes recumbent bike
Another great workout. Lots of volume, and even though the pace was fairly quick, it still took a long time to get through everything. My chest felt pretty tight at the start, so I was going to just work on form and moving the weight. But after the 3rd set on the declines, it felt better so I tried to lift some heavier weights. By the end of the workout, my whole upper body had a great pump going.
Off day today, gonna make sure I get enough food in me to recover from Monday/Yesterday for legs tomorrow.Lack of activity destroys the good condition of every human being, while movement and methodical physical exercise save it and preserve it. ~Plato
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11-05-2010, 07:49 AM #326
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11-05-2010, 10:29 AM #328
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not really. my shoulder pain from a few months ago basically gone, but even when it was there dips never hurt them. i do feel pressure/stress on the shoulders while doing them, but it's more like muscles working, not pain. however, my shoulder pain seemed more nerve/muscular than structural, so maybe this is why i never felt pain during dips and only during certain movements.
hopefully you can get yours fixed soon, dips really hit the chest nice. i would even suggest doing assisted dips, but at a very slow controlled pace just to get the nice contraction in your chest, and this might take some of the pressure off your shoulder.Lack of activity destroys the good condition of every human being, while movement and methodical physical exercise save it and preserve it. ~Plato
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11-09-2010, 07:17 AM #329
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Tri-Phase, Week 3, Workout 3
November 5th, 2010
HS V Squat
180x10, 230x10, 270x10, 270x10, 270x10
Front Squats
95x10, 135x10, 155x10, 135x10, 135x10
Single Cybex Leg Press
135x10, 180x10, 180x10, 180x10, 180x28
DB SLDL
65x10, 75x10, 85x10, 95x19, 105x10
Lying Leg Curls
130x10, 150x10, 150x8, 130x10, 130x10
Great leg workout, tried something different instead of hacks and normal squats. Once we were done with the first few exercises, pace was fast, only rest was waiting for the other to finish their reps. I actually like the V-squat, hits the upper legs/hips a little differently than the hack/full squat.
Tri-Phase, Week 3, Workout 4
November 6th, 2010
Skull Crushers SS EZ bar curls
75x10\100x10, 95x10\100x10, 95x10\100x10, 95x10\95x10, 105x8\100x10
Close Grip Machine Press SS Calf Press
225x10\400x15, 240x10\400x15, 255x10\400x15, 270x10\400x15, 270x10\400x15
HS Preacher Curls SS Seated Calf Raise
65x10\180x10, 65x10\180x10, 65x10\180x10, 65x10\205x10, 65x8\205x10
I still needed to pack and prepare for my move so this was a quick workout. Still got an amazing pump in the arms though.
MOVING DAY
November 7, 2010
3 hours of loading moving truck in the AM. 2 hours of unloading the moving trunk in the PM. countless trips up 3 flights of stairs made up for lack of cardio from the previous week. Throw in 1 heavy-ass marble table and it was a good total body workout
Tri-Phase, Week 4, Workout 1
November 8, 2010
Decline Bench Press
225x6, 245x6, 255x6
High Cable Rows
225x6, 225x6, 210x6
BB Shoulder Press
135x6, 155x6, 175x6
Iso Lateral Low Row
270x6, 290x6, 290x6
Close Grip Bench Press
185x6, 200x6, 195x6
Smith Shrugs
315x6, 365x6, 315x6
Standing Barbell Curls
105x6, 115x6, 125x6
Good night night in the gym. Wasn't sure about the weight with some of the exercises, and then for others my form was that strict so I dropped the weight to perform the lifts correctly. Overall, my whole upper body was pretty pumped from the workout. This is nice transition workout from volume to intensity b/c you kinda get in the middle of both. Next week I will be really focused on pushing more weight, maybe taking in a little more rest between sets.
Almost all settled in my new place, still have a few boxes to unpack. Also, Paul and I will be condensing the workouts this week to 3 so we can go down south the NGA Universe show to support his coach (layne) and some of the other fellas that are on these boards that are competing in the amateur show. Looking forward to the trip, should be a nice getaway from the last few weeks of moving stress.Lack of activity destroys the good condition of every human being, while movement and methodical physical exercise save it and preserve it. ~Plato
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11-10-2010, 07:49 PM #330
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Tri-Phase Week 4, Workout 2
November 10, 2010
Hack Squat
380x6, 400x6, 410x6
Full Squat
225x6, 245x6, 255x6
Single Leg Curl
90x6, 110x6, 110x6
Seated Calf Raise
270x6, 270x6, 225x6
Leg Press Single Calf Raise
270x6, 360x6, 360x6/Both feet x12
19 minutes cardio
Good night in the gym. Workout took a little longer b/c we were going heavy, but also it seemed like it was national squat day b/c all the squat racks were being used when Paul I needed them. I feel I could have gone 275+ on the full squat tonight if I hadn't killed my quads doing the heavy hacks. Overall I was happy and my legs are pretty sore right now considering the lower volume day, well compared to the last few weeks at least.
Tomorrow is a rest day, may do a little cardio if I can fit it in, I have a bunch of errands and I also have to get a body shop estimate on my car since it was hit while parked last night (minor damage, but some metal is exposed and I don't want any rust).
Friday will be an early workout and then it's off to south florida for the NGA universe.Lack of activity destroys the good condition of every human being, while movement and methodical physical exercise save it and preserve it. ~Plato
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