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    Difference between Tamoxifen and Tamoxifen Citrate (7k)

    I am wondering because I plan on buying some nolvadex and it is called tamoxifen. I have read that i needed to get tamoxifen citrate though....any suggestions. Thanks
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    Tamoxifen citrate is tamoxifen. Citrate is the salt.
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    15.2mg of tamoxifen citrate=10mg of tamoxifen
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    Here is a link if you'd like to read up.
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    Originally Posted by 2Burnt View Post
    15.2mg of tamoxifen citrate=10mg of tamoxifen
    That is to get the 10mg of the active, since tamo cirtate is the only form it is produced in (for proper absorption).
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    So would I be alright with 20mg of tamoxifen/day after running a PH?
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    What do you plan on running?
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    Originally Posted by highdie View Post
    What do you plan on running?
    Debating between p-plex or superdrol
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    Originally Posted by feardafronfz3 View Post
    Debating between p-plex or superdrol
    pplex may be fine at 20/20/10/10, but I'd suggest you dose it differently for m-drol/superdrol: 40/30/20/20

    Also people like clomid a lot for SD and phera, or something like 100mg of Clomid and 25mg of aromasin for 4 weeks
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    Originally Posted by ZB126 View Post
    pplex should be fine, I'd possibly dose it differently for m-drol/superdrol 40/30/20/20 or 40/20/20 if you are set on doing 3 weeks....also people like clomid a lot for SD
    so 20/20/20/20 is fine for pplex though?
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    Originally Posted by feardafronfz3 View Post
    so 20/20/20/20 is fine for pplex though?
    You could get away with it but I'd suggest adding something else in with the nolva or upping the dose to be safe. These recommendations are just from what I've heard, Ive never run PPlex so I can't say for sure but I will recommend this thread The Pheraplex Cheat Sheet since it might have a better discussion of what will help you make your decision.
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    Originally Posted by feardafronfz3 View Post
    so 20/20/20/20 is fine for pplex though?
    You need to taper it. 20/20/10/10 is fine. Also, if the label on Tamoxifen Citrate says 20mg, it means 20mg of Tamoxifen (for Pharma grade), which equals like 30.2 mg of Tamoxifen Citrate. Any generic pharma grade tamox will always list the amount of active rather than the amount of the salt. Research chems, however, often do not. They will try and trick you sometimes, so if you go with RC, you need to read the label carefully.
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    Originally Posted by ZB126 View Post
    You could get away with it but I'd suggest adding something else in with the nolva or upping the dose to be safe. These recommendations are just from what I've heard, Ive never run PPlex so I can't say for sure but I will recommend this thread The Pheraplex Cheat Sheet since it might have a better discussion of what will help you make your decision.
    There is no need for anything else when taking Nolva. And 20/20/10/10 is more than enough for almost every cycle.
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    Originally Posted by stevenmilligan View Post
    There is no need for anything else when taking Nolva. And 20/20/10/10 is more than enough for almost every cycle.
    its really a matter of opinion if you do or don't....i personally say its better safe than sorry and people disagree all the time on PCT protocols
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    I have some pharm grade tamoxifen citrate, and there are in 10 tab stips in aluminum packing. It says 20mg on it, so it that 20mg of active ingredient or less?

    Ahh just read the writing that is hardly readable and it says that it is 20mg of tamoxifen
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    Originally Posted by stevenmilligan View Post
    You need to taper it. 20/20/10/10 is fine. Also, if the label on Tamoxifen Citrate says 20mg, it means 20mg of Tamoxifen (for Pharma grade), which equals like 30.2 mg of Tamoxifen Citrate. Any generic pharma grade tamox will always list the amount of active rather than the amount of the salt. Research chems, however, often do not. They will try and trick you sometimes, so if you go with RC, you need to read the label carefully.
    The label on mine says 20mg Tamoxifen Citrate.

    Its not pharm grade, should I assume that I only get around 13mg of the active per pill?
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    Originally Posted by Madevilz View Post
    The label on mine says 20mg Tamoxifen Citrate.

    Its not pharm grade, should I assume that I only get around 13mg of the active per pill?
    No. As long as the company making it isn't under or over dosing it, there should be 20mg of the active per pill.
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    Originally Posted by mobikwa View Post
    No. As long as the company making it isn't under or over dosing it, there should be 20mg of the active per pill.
    Alright... so when they say 20mg of TC... it is actually 20mg of Tamoxifen.

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