The following link to this documentary has been posted over at the IFBB forum. But some may not have checked it out, so it's here as a repost. It's not from youtube so I cannot embed. You'll have to click on it and put up with the ads surrounding it.
But it very interesting and informative!
http://vidreel.com/video/NTk0MDU0/
The guy is not jacked at all, but what he goes through to get up on stage and not embarrass himself is inspiring!
It may make some of us stage-shy types (like me perhaps...) realize one doesn't have to be a 200 lb slab of meat to "feel worthy" of such.
Enjoy, Bob
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Thread: "I Want to Look Like That Guy"
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02-17-2010, 03:45 PM #1
"I Want to Look Like That Guy"
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02-17-2010, 05:13 PM #3
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This is amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is exactly what I tell people that ask me about bodybuilding. I have gone through everyone of these steps. Everyone of these trials and problems. If you want to really know what it is like, what it takes to be "THAT GUY", then watch this. Watch it and then you'll understand what the sacrifice it is to be "THAT GUY".
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02-17-2010, 05:17 PM #4No brain, no gain.
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02-17-2010, 05:49 PM #5
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02-17-2010, 06:11 PM #6
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It took awhile for the video to load and you also have to have the correct videoand audio codec for it to work... and yes, there are a lot of pop ups in the beginning. It is a very long video (83 minutes) and features a guy who wants to look like a bodybuilder.
The guy in the video happens to live in the town and train in the gym of Jeff Willet, an IFBB Pro bodybuilder who won the Team Universe and came in I think 4th or 5th in the USA show. I've had the opportunity to correspond with Jeff in the past and also talk with him at the Arnold. He is a very down to earth guy. I followed his contest prep day by day when he was getting ready for the TU as he had a blog on the AST site where he worked and was sponsored by. Jeff used, and still uses Max-OT training as developed by Paul Dillea the president of AST.
While I believe 100% that Jeff is natural I feel this is another great example of how important great genetics are. Even though Jeff trains hard and his nutrition is always spot on he did not develop those huge guns of his alone. He had God on his side.
Someone attempting to want to look like him may tend to be sorely dissappointed in themselves when they try to build the muscle mass he has (and can't) and then tries to get super lean. While they may conquer getting lean, in the end they won't have the underlining muscle mass without the genetic potential being there.
Even with Jeff's genetic potential he realizes he does not have that drive he needs to compete in the IFBB because of the sacrifice he must endure to get there. It is a struggle and a committment of dedication to training and nutrition that is beyond most mortal men (and women).
In the video the guy goes from around 26% bodyfat to around 4% which is a great accomplishment. How he gets there is a story in itself... going down to 1300 calories per day, twice a day cardio and over $4000 in supplements (natural), training, tanning, etc. Who says being natural is cheap? It's not. Quality food and prep is not cheap. The guy decides to shoot to compete in a local show and Jeff brings him from the beginning to the end using many of the same principles Paul had him go through in his quest for the TU championships.
There is very little time for yourself or others. Your life is training and eating. It is cardio and focus. It is eating when you don't want to eat and wanting to eat when you can't.
I had to chuckle at parts that I could relate to.... having to lose another 3 pounds before weigh in... your mind drives you crazy with all the worry. After all the hard work you are scared you're not going to fit in the weight class you were shooting for and may have to compete against guys who have 10 pounds of muscle mass MORE than you. When you're only a 140 to 150 pounds another 10 pounds is a LOT!
Jeff says not everyone can look like a bodybuilder but everyone can improve themselves. He lists three rules everyone can do to improve themselves in 6 months and I have to agree with them:
Rule 1: Lift Heavy Weights. This is the basics of Max-OT and also makes COMMON SENSE. Your muscles won't get bigger unless they have to!
Rule 2: 16 to 20 minutes of hard cardio at least 5 times per week. Jeff used and had this guy use the same principle he used in his contest prep. A hell bent cardio session of 16 minutes. I used the same principles in my contest preps. I hated cardio and found these hell bent sessions not only made sense and worked but also have me more time to do other things!
Rule 3: Calorie Restricted, Healthy Food and Supplementation. While you can't eat as much food when trying to lose bodyfat the food you do eat you should make to be the best you can. Above all, your protein needs must be met so you won't lose that hard fought muscle mass you put on.
The fitness industry tries to make you believe that there is some magic pill, exercise, or program that will transform you into "that other guy"... but in the end YOU make it happen or not happen and you will look what you have the potential to look like. No more, no less.
If you have the time watch the video... very informative although quite long.
The video does expose the lies that fitness and supplement ads try to portray. In the end look for the fine print at the bottom of the ad. It will usually say "results may vary".
nuff said....Last edited by Most Muscular; 02-17-2010 at 07:12 PM.
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02-17-2010, 07:16 PM #7
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Randy does a great job interpreting this documentary. For those who want to understand what it is like to "be a bodybuilder" and be "That Guy" in the adds. When people see my pics and say they want to get ripped like that, I tell them "I'm only ripped like that for a about 6 wks a year!" It's not normal to run around 3% BF.
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02-17-2010, 07:45 PM #8
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02-17-2010, 07:58 PM #9
Thanks to Old Superman and MM for their contributions!
The most eye opening things for me was how low he drove his calories, "skimming" another 100 off every two weeks until it reached about 1300!
I thought he would have him INCREASE his cardio in relation to calories taken in so he wouldn't starve.
Do you think his form of cardio was HIIT? That wasn't made clear.
Also... "MAX OT" style training i.e. only 4-6 reps?
Is this only a contest prep style of training to conserve what mass he had as opposed to a higher range to build more mass?
I'm interested in your thoughts guys!
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02-17-2010, 08:08 PM #10
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02-17-2010, 10:06 PM #14
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First, there are many styles of training when you compete as a bber, yet they're all brutal and tough. If it isn't tough, you're doing something wrong. Dorian Yates for example generally uses a 10 to 12 rep range. There is the FS7 style with many, many reps. It's all about preference.
I was also laughing my a$$ off when Stu was crying questioning it all. I hate to admit it, yet I think I've had a good cry during every prep for a contest. You really do question "What the hell am I doing this for?" Yet, something deep within you pushes you forward.
Also, what a wonderful mentor and coach Stu had. That's why I tell peeps who want to get into this, to get a coach. You need that someone who's head is thinking clearly and rationally, because you are not!
Yet, when you stand on that stage and know regardless of where you place, you have done the best you can and you look the best you've ever looked. IT IS AMAZING!!! It isn't for everyone. In fact it is only for a few.Last edited by oldsuperman; 02-17-2010 at 10:11 PM.
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02-17-2010, 10:44 PM #15
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02-18-2010, 03:45 AM #16
great video and info, thx for posting. one thing ive never done in my workouts, even before when I was more consistent, was that low of reps, 4-6. I would touch upon it towards the end of my sets but never focused on it. This time around once I start hitting the weights more I am going to work on it.
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02-18-2010, 07:04 AM #17
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02-18-2010, 07:14 AM #18
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Jeff Willet used a cardio session which was also developed by Paul Delia from AST which was sort of a HIT type of session. If I recall it was one minute of moderate pace and one minute of very fast paced cardio. I used that same type of cardio during my last contest prep. I now use a 45 second moderate level and 15 second hell bent period as I've found it is hard to maintain "hell bent" for a solid minute.
I also utilized a lower rep/heavy weight training throughout my contest prep to maintain the muscle mass I had put on during the off season. If I lightened up my body would realize it did not need the muscle (muscle is high maintenance for the body) and the body may allow some of it to be lost. If you don't use it... you lose it. It's not rocket science... it is just common sense.
Of course I now also believe that a mixture of both high rep AND low rep exercises are vital to hitting all of the different muscle fibers but in the long run heavy weights will push the body to builder stronger and bigger muscles to accomodate them.
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02-18-2010, 07:56 AM #19
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I am in the midst of my first prep (12 weeks out) and a buddy was asking me last night wasn't I afraid to embarass myself or to fail! I laughed I said "how can I embarass myself? I will be in the best shape of my life (Already am and getting leaner everyday) and will know that when I step on stage I have done absolutely everything in my power to be in the best condition I can be in. The strict diet, Cardio when you don't want to do cardio, Practicing and repracticing poses taking pictures of poses to see how you look, doing it this way or that way, all things very few people are willing to dedicate themselves too, and that in itself is part of the appeal. I thought this video was great.
Oh and as my prep coach mentioned, If your not feeling like **** at least part of the time on a prep diet your probably not working hard enough!
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02-18-2010, 08:34 AM #20
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02-18-2010, 09:04 AM #21
!Awesome! video and a real eye opener to the dedication required to reach 4% contest shape!! My fav comment was at the end where he says his abs were gone 3 days after the 4% show and 10 pounds were added.
Lets you know just how hard single digit body fat is unless you are naturally inclined to be lean. His comments about a healthy 15-20 percent is also helpful as most people want to enjoy fitness without being tearful and grouchy on a 1300 cal a day diet.
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02-18-2010, 10:08 AM #22
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Yes, after months of very hard work it doesn't take long for the abs to vanish! It is the sudden influx of new foods (especially carbs) back into the diet that really wrecks havoc with your system. I recall after my 1999 Nationals appearance I stepped on the scale at the airport three days after the show and I had gained 20 pounds! I could feel all the water weight in my system sloshing around. Not a good feeling.
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1998 NPC USA Bantamweight
2003 NPC Masters National Lightweight (over 40)
2006 NPC Masters National Welterweight (over 40)
2006 NPC Masters National Middleweight (over 50)
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Great video. A video example of body building is 90% diet and 10% training. I noted little complaining or struggle with the routine and workouts, most of it was diet related. It was a good visual of the difficulties maintaining a clean diet in a relatively normal world.
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02-18-2010, 10:31 AM #25
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02-18-2010, 12:08 PM #26
Here's Part 1, all the parts appear to be youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuYET2H-hwU
here is the guy that posted it
http://www.youtube.com/user/go6okmeta
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02-18-2010, 12:21 PM #27
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02-18-2010, 05:16 PM #29
Really instructive vid! Thanks. I've lifted for a long time and never really understood what it takes to get that level of competition.
I'm really surprised at how little muscle mass you can appear to carry until it pops from the weight loss and tanning. You wouldn't look at Stu in street clothes and think he does anything but play the occassional game of golf. Strip him of fat and turn him brown and he's suddenly the runner up for Michigan. Pretty amazing.
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02-18-2010, 05:44 PM #30
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