so anyways this has been bothering for a while and i know this is a stupid question and doing more on one exercise doesnt mean you'll do a certain amount on the other one.
but anyways here it is, i max 275lb on squat, max 500lb on leg press. i always expected to do more on leg press and whatever but not by that much, is it normal? i go parallel on squat, ive tried going lower but i cant keep my balance, in leg press i go as far down as possible.
so srry for the stupid question, do u guys think its normal and what are ur squat and leg press max
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02-11-2010, 04:31 PM #1
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Squat vs. leg press ratio
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02-11-2010, 04:49 PM #2
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Right now I squat 3 plates + bar (315) but my press is 630
So your results don't seem that off to me.
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02-11-2010, 04:50 PM #3
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02-11-2010, 04:51 PM #4
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oh wow 630, ok, cool i thought i might have been doing something wrong on my squats
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02-11-2010, 04:52 PM #5
i've heard from trainers at my gym that the leg press (on the machine) is a pretty useless workout. the reasoning being that its such an un-natural form. I'm not sure if this is true but i've since stopped doing it and focus primarily on squats.
any truth to this??!
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02-11-2010, 04:55 PM #6
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02-11-2010, 05:03 PM #7
First of all, there is no direct correlation, since squats use other muscles, which may or may not be the weak link in the lift. They are two very different exercises, though obviously they work some of the same muscles.
Second, with squats you are also lifting your body weight. So, if you squat 275, and weigh 175 , then you are actually lifting 450 lbs. (no, you can't claim you squat 450, however). On a 45 degree seated leg press (if that's the machine you're referring to) you are not lifting the entire weight you have loaded, nor are you lifting your body weight.
Looked at this way, it's your leg press weight, if anything, that may not be up to par.Last edited by VoxExMachina; 02-11-2010 at 05:07 PM.
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02-11-2010, 05:22 PM #8
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02-11-2010, 05:26 PM #9
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in my experience, leg press is usually about triple squat weight.
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02-11-2010, 05:30 PM #10
I don't think it's a stupid question. I kind of wondered about that ratio myself.
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02-11-2010, 05:36 PM #11
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Ronnie coleman leg presses around 2500 and squats around 800 if that helps any.
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02-11-2010, 06:09 PM #12
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02-11-2010, 06:50 PM #13
Me...
Squats = 360 x 10
Leg Press = 1050 x 10David
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02-11-2010, 07:00 PM #14
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05-10-2011, 12:25 PM #15
Ya but if you think about it, the goomba represents everyone's childhood fear.
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05-10-2011, 01:01 PM #16
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99% of the time you will legpress more than squat. but the ratio depends on the machine and angle. I can squat 365 and legpress 1080 (12 plates). But I use the same leg press machine everytime so i know how much weight to add. If i used a different one, I have no clue and would probably start light and increase slowly to see what i can do. waste of energy and time.
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05-10-2011, 01:04 PM #17
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http://www.scoobysworkshop.com/squat...ssnoteffective
"People use the argument that since they can do way more weight on the leg press than they can on the squat that this makes the squat a better, "more efficient" exercise. This ridiculous claim shows the complete lack of understanding of basic physics by bodybuilders and the public at large. If you really want to succeed at bodybuilding, you need to know your science! In the case of the 45 degree leg press, its simple leverage that lets you lift more than you can squat. To get 495 pounds of resistance for your legs in the 45 degree leg press requires loading the machine with 700 pounds of weight (495/cosine(45)). In addition, the squatter is lifting their own bodyweight in addition to the 495 pound bar, this is not the case for the leg presser. If the bodybuilder pictured weighs 200 pounds, their legs are really lifting closer to 695 pounds when squatting so when doing the leg press they would need to do 980 pounds (695/cosine(45)) on the leg press to get the same leg workout. So for this 200 pound bodybuilder, 495 pounds on the squats is about the same as 980 pounds on the 45 degree leg press - not because squats are 'more effective' but because of physics."
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05-10-2011, 01:14 PM #18
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05-10-2011, 01:25 PM #19
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My best squat is 455x6, and leg press is 540x6. I don't leg press often though and I could probably get up to more like 630x6 if I wanted to. That is knees to chest on leg press, basically bottoming out the machine I use.
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10-14-2014, 09:22 PM #20
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10-15-2014, 04:17 AM #21
No Real Answer
I guarantee it will Never work, if you Never try it.
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10-15-2014, 04:26 AM #22
Mate, your squat is the only thing that matters. I honestly couldn't give a fk if you could leg press 1000lbs+ it honestly doesn't impress me. Just use the leg press to get some quality reps in after your squats. Don't worry about the weight on the leg press, just worry about the weight on your squat and keep at it op.
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10-15-2014, 04:35 AM #23
Leg Press is A Good Tool.
Leg Press-Useful Tool
The Leg Press has its place in training.
It definitely allows you to overload the legs.
It does this by taking the stabilizer muscles out of the equation.
Thus, the primary muscle are overloaded.
The Squat
The limiting factor in a squat is the core, specially the lower back.
The lower back tires before the legs are completely overloaded.
Thus, exercise that take the lower back out of the equation allow you to maximize you leg training.
Leg Movement
The movements below take that lower back out of the equation.
In performing them, holding on to something like a Power Rack in performing them allows you to use a greater load. That because you are minimizing the stabilizer muscle.
1) Step Ups
2) Belt Squats
Combining Prime and Stabilizer Work
One method of maxing the legs out is to...
1) Perform Squats then the Leg Press.
2) With Step Ups and Belt Squats, the same applies.
Preform them without holding on to a Power Rack. Then follow that exercise with them holding on to the Power Rack.
Deadlift Training
The Leg Press is more effective at increasing the Deadlift than the Squat.
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06-01-2016, 09:21 PM #24
Sqaut leg press
Im 16 and sqaut 365 for One good rep. What Do u think my leg press would be ?
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06-01-2016, 09:25 PM #25
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strong bump OP , one part of me wants to sayy about thri fiddy, but you should be able to leg press 800 lbs if you can squat 365 ass to calves
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06-21-2016, 11:31 AM #26
This was really helpful. I knew the angle threw off the comparison and it took out the back which is my weak point for sure. At 250 of chub I'm squating 405 × 2 (haven't tried any more yet) but felt I could go harder. Today I leg pressed 800 × 10 and felt I could have easily done more. This post gives me confidence to try for the 1000. Not without someone there just in case but I'm gonna try it!
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07-13-2016, 05:05 AM #27
Physics
There is some physics here that can answer.
Basically the sin of the angle of the press gives you the equivalent, but then you have to factor in your weight. Seems to be about 20% more of your body weight needed to adjust for press not pushing the upper part of your body.
This guy observes this: bodybuilding.com/fun/shannon1.htm
I've experimented physics formula that gets it, but the answer is: Divide by 1.8: that is the observation made, and backed up to an adjusted incline calculation.
The answer over many places "they are not comparable" seem to be given far too often... they can be compared quite accurately.
So, if you are doing a 130kg squat, your 45 degree incline would be about 235; give it a try.
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07-13-2016, 05:09 AM #28
Technically it is the sin of angle the way angles are usually measure, but the cos and sin of 45 are the same physicsclassroom.com/class/vectors/Lesson-3/Inclined-Planes (sin is the parallel force, cos is the perpendicular force) ... but you have to factor in the amount of body weight on a squat... best to just go with 1.8 and leave it at that.
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