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    Originally Posted by chashma1 View Post
    Yup. I don't know the last time when someone mentioned music they meant nasheeds that extol Allah. LOL
    Originally Posted by FormVoltron88 View Post
    And, yes, nasheeds can be considered music in a sense. It is vocal music.
    Do you know what a capella is, chashma?

    If you have a look at SK's answers, you will see he is very thorough and precise in his answering of topics like this. Why? You need to be quite precise in your answers, otherwise you end up with the sort of clusterfck you've seen here, where you just categorically banned all forms of music, including nasheeds off your own cognisance. Very brave of you, I must say....

    If you are intent on running this thread in his absence (as you seem to be), step up your game.
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    Let me remind everyone that even nasheeds containing musical instruments are haram.

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    Originally Posted by chashma1 View Post
    Salaam all,

    Today i was in the mosque and the Imam was talking about moon landings, and how the astronaut heard adhaan on the moon and accepted Islam. I came home, searched on google and i find that it's probably a hoax. What do you guys think about this?
    Man it's silly that Muslims have to make up with these silly hoax to get people to take notice of the religion. We are better than this. It's best if we fix our character, and stay truthful. That'll get us noticed in the world, not these silly hoax!
    more than likely he heard from another reliable & trustworthy guy who heard it from another reliable & trustworthy guy who heard it from another etc etc etc



    I always hear stuff like x celeb is a muslim and such.
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    The Saudis Should Protest too. Worst Arab Government, IMO.

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    Assalamalaikum, when is Sk going to return? He did he mentioned any date.

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    Originally Posted by Weightaholic View Post
    Some of you need to do a little more research on your own religion.

    The act of listening to music is not haram at all.

    I'll leave it for you to do the research and get back to us all with why you are wrong, why your advice is bad, and why you are leading your fellow believers astray with poor advice, which is quite rightly frowned upon, no?
    What the fffffffffffff, i dont even.......... facepalm.jpg


    Originally Posted by Weightaholic View Post
    Do you know what a capella is, chashma?

    If you have a look at SK's answers, you will see he is very thorough and precise in his answering of topics like this. Why? You need to be quite precise in your answers, otherwise you end up with the sort of clusterfck you've seen here, where you just categorically banned all forms of music, including nasheeds off your own cognisance. Very brave of you, I must say....

    If you are intent on running this thread in his absence (as you seem to be), step up your game.
    You are an enemy of Islam in the ranks of Abu jahal,Hamaan and Firoun.I lol at you trying your hand at Islamic jurisprudence.You are clearly way out of your depth.
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    Originally Posted by wellwisher4u View Post
    Assalamalaikum, when is Sk going to return? He did he mentioned any date.
    He said a few weeks,he didnt mention a date though.

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    Originally Posted by Jericho786 View Post
    Salaam.

    1) Is paying even a few dollars of charity a week good?
    The smallest form of charity a muslim can give is a smile.Charity/sadaqah is not confined to monetary value or goods.Assisting a human being/animal in any way which is not haraam is considered charity/sadaqah.Charity cools the anger of Allah and expiates sins.
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    Originally Posted by mujie View Post
    The smallest form of charity a muslim can give is a smile.Charity/sadaqah is not confined to monetary value or goods.Assisting a human being/animal in any way which is not haraam is considered charity/sadaqah.Charity cools the anger of Allah and expiates sins.
    Great response...like to hear about charity as a keystone of faith.

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    Originally Posted by Teramassud View Post
    I second that
    this is an excellent thread...I continue to learn a lot abut Islam.

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    Say: O People of the Scripture! Come to a common word between us and you: that we shall worship none but God, and that we shall ascribe no partner unto Him, and that none of us shall take others for lords beside God. And if they turn away, then say: Bear witness that we are they who have surrendered (unto Him). (Aal ‘Imran 3:64)

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    Originally Posted by khanrx View Post
    Say: O People of the Scripture! Come to a common word between us and you: that we shall worship none but God, and that we shall ascribe no partner unto Him, and that none of us shall take others for lords beside God. And if they turn away, then say: Bear witness that we are they who have surrendered (unto Him). (Aal ‘Imran 3:64)

    Following this verse I started a thread in this section " WE WORSHIP THE SAME GOD" which is getting a lot of opposition from the athiest community.
    that's alright. If u got no response at all, that wuld be a failure to strike a nerve. This thread, for instance, has more activity than almost any other on the site---and it is in its 4th edition.

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    why is there so much music in pakistan if Music is haraam? It is a big part of their culture.

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    why are women not allowed to drive in areas like Saudia ARabia?

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    I was just wondering what you guys do with your prayer schedule. I work relatively late, till 11 pm. I was wondering what you guys did for fajr prayer, especially those with late sleeping hours. Do u wake up, pray, and then sleep. or do u arrange ur time differentley.

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    how soon after the prayer time does one have to pray until the next one or until the prayer becomes invalid?

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    Originally Posted by j miller View Post
    Great response...like to hear about charity as a keystone of faith.
    Yup.

    http://www.al-islam.org/beauty_charity/

    Originally Posted by paki123 View Post
    why is there so much music in pakistan if Music is haraam? It is a big part of their culture.
    This is what happens when corruption, indecency and misguided faith compels people to turn sins into good deeds. Hypocrisy is so prevalent in all Muslim countries which is opposite of what Allah and His Messenger wanted.

    Originally Posted by paki123 View Post
    why are women not allowed to drive in areas like Saudia ARabia?
    They believe that it makes a women mingle with other men. Or that men are able to see her.

    This is a wrong concept since if a woman is in purdah, it will not matter who views her. She is covered and free from being restricted to move around.

    Originally Posted by paki123 View Post
    I was just wondering what you guys do with your prayer schedule. I work relatively late, till 11 pm. I was wondering what you guys did for fajr prayer, especially those with late sleeping hours. Do u wake up, pray, and then sleep. or do u arrange ur time differentley.
    Yes, that is possible. But be sure that once you wake up for fajr prayers to not sleep until the sun has risen (that is when fajr is no longer valid)

    Originally Posted by paki123 View Post
    how soon after the prayer time does one have to pray until the next one or until the prayer becomes invalid?
    Imam Ali has said:

    Lead the Zuhr prayer till the shadow of a wall becomes equal to the height of the wall, the Asr prayers can be performed till the sun is still bright and enough time of the day is left for a person to cover a distance of six miles. The Maghrib prayers should be performed when people break their fasts and when Hajj pilgrims return from Arafat. And the time for Isha prayers is when the red glow of the even twilight disappears from the West, till one-third of the night is still left. The morning prayers are to be performed when there appears enough light of the dawn for a man to recognize the face of his companion.
    http://www.nahjulbalagha.org/LetterDetail.php?Letter=52
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    Originally Posted by Weightaholic View Post
    Do you know what a capella is, chashma?

    If you have a look at SK's answers, you will see he is very thorough and precise in his answering of topics like this. Why? You need to be quite precise in your answers, otherwise you end up with the sort of clusterfck you've seen here, where you just categorically banned all forms of music, including nasheeds off your own cognisance. Very brave of you, I must say....

    If you are intent on running this thread in his absence (as you seem to be), step up your game.
    The only person ruining this thread is you. It's not a coincidence that the moment SK steps out you come barging in with your half-wit reasoning throwing around words and definitions you don't understand.

    Chasma is using the word correctly. You have no idea what your talking about because you'd rather spend your time posting weak sarcastic remarks on a bodybuilding subforum rather than cracking open a book and educating yourself. Chasma, whether he knows it or not, is using the legal precising definition of the word music. You are using a contemporary cultural definition. The very subject of this thread denotes which definition is at play, however, you'd rather play intellectual than sit and think for just one moment.

    To the rest of the posters in this thread: Most of you have not been here long enough or haven't had enough experience dealing with Weightaholic or his ilk. He and people like him thrive on confrontation. The more you respond the more aggressive, abusive, and virulent he becomes. If I may offer some advice: leave them to themselves. I know how strong the urge can be to respond to fools like Weightaholic, but you only frustrate yourself and waste time better spent on other subjects.

    Upon receipt of your neg, Weightaholic (yes, you are THAT predictable), I'll be returning it with a positive rep. What this will do is show you that no matter how many rep points you have it will not mask nor make up for your complete inability to reason in an acceptable manner. And if you think no one else notices your handicap you're delusional.

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    As-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu

    Originally Posted by paki123 View Post
    why is there so much music in pakistan if Music is haraam? It is a big part of their culture.
    We have to keep in mind that just because Muslims do something does not mean it is permissible behavior. In fact, many scholars in the sub-continent speak out about these un-Islamic practices and behaviors.

    Originally Posted by paki123 View Post
    why are women not allowed to drive in areas like Saudia ARabia?
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...postcount=1276

    Originally Posted by paki123 View Post
    I was just wondering what you guys do with your prayer schedule. I work relatively late, till 11 pm. I was wondering what you guys did for fajr prayer, especially those with late sleeping hours. Do u wake up, pray, and then sleep. or do u arrange ur time differentley.
    When I was working those hours, and sometimes still do when I help my cousins, I would still wake up in time for fajr and pray. I noticed I woke up with a lot of energy when my intention was to wake up for Allah swt so that I may worship Him.

    if you're having problems I recommend this lecture on the sleeping habits of the Prophet(pbuh) by Muhammed Al-Shareef.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6514...DBB650160498A5

    Originally Posted by paki123 View Post
    how soon after the prayer time does one have to pray until the next one or until the prayer becomes invalid?
    Prayer is valid till the next. Fajr is valid until sunrise, dhuhr is valid till asr, asr is valid till maghrib, maghrib is valid till isha, and isha is valid till fajr.

    To better keep track of the times use the free version of this program
    http://www.islamicfinder.org/athanDownload.php

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    Originally Posted by paki123 View Post
    I was just wondering what you guys do with your prayer schedule. I work relatively late, till 11 pm. I was wondering what you guys did for fajr prayer, especially those with late sleeping hours. Do u wake up, pray, and then sleep. or do u arrange ur time differentley.
    Asalamu Alaykum,

    Some nights I get off at 12-2am but I still wake up for fajr and then go back to sleep. The sunnah is though to wake up early and start your day early. Not easy for us who work late.

    It isnt easy waking up for fajr but I usually put 4-5 alarms on just incase I miss the first few.

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    Originally Posted by NotoriousARAB View Post
    The only person ruining this thread is you. It's not a coincidence that the moment SK steps out you come barging in with your half-wit reasoning throwing around words and definitions you don't understand.

    Chasma is using the word correctly. You have no idea what your talking about because you'd rather spend your time posting weak sarcastic remarks on a bodybuilding subforum rather than cracking open a book and educating yourself. Chasma, whether he knows it or not, is using the legal precising definition of the word music. You are using a contemporary cultural definition. The very subject of this thread denotes which definition is at play, however, you'd rather play intellectual than sit and think for just one moment.

    To the rest of the posters in this thread: Most of you have not been here long enough or haven't had enough experience dealing with Weightaholic or his ilk. He and people like him thrive on confrontation. The more you respond the more aggressive, abusive, and virulent he becomes. If I may offer some advice: leave them to themselves. I know how strong the urge can be to respond to fools like Weightaholic, but you only frustrate yourself and waste time better spent on other subjects.

    Upon receipt of your neg, Weightaholic (yes, you are THAT predictable), I'll be returning it with a positive rep. What this will do is show you that no matter how many rep points you have it will not mask nor make up for your complete inability to reason in an acceptable manner. And if you think no one else notices your handicap you're delusional.
    100% agree.
    Hi, Peace.

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    Originally Posted by sherenk View Post
    Yup.

    http://www.al-islam.org/beauty_charity/


    This is what happens when corruption, indecency and misguided faith compels people to turn sins into good deeds. Hypocrisy is so prevalent in all Muslim countries which is opposite of what Allah and His Messenger wanted.



    They believe that it makes a women mingle with other men. Or that men are able to see her.

    This is a wrong concept since if a woman is in purdah, it will not matter who views her. She is covered and free from being restricted to move around.



    Yes, that is possible. But be sure that once you wake up for fajr prayers to not sleep until the sun has risen (that is when fajr is no longer valid)



    Imam Ali has said:



    http://www.nahjulbalagha.org/LetterDetail.php?Letter=52


    thnx for referring me to the al-islam website...lots of stuff there for the inquirer.

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    Asalamu Alaikum Akhi,

    I was wondering or looking for evidence that in Islam Allah has provided us with three things that are prewritten/predestined. For example, like marriage (naseeb) it is already pre written by Allah SWT who you will marry or how many times you will marry. Also the time/place of your death.

    If this is true, what is the third? I always heard of this but was never presented with authenticated evidence.

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    Originally Posted by earnings View Post
    Asalamu Alaikum Akhi,

    I was wondering or looking for evidence that in Islam Allah has provided us with three things that are prewritten/predestined. For example, like marriage (naseeb) it is already pre written by Allah SWT who you will marry or how many times you will marry. Also the time/place of your death.

    If this is true, what is the third? I always heard of this but was never presented with authenticated evidence.
    Wa'alaykum Asalam,
    Everything is predestined in Islam not only the two that you have in mind. Qadr(decree) is one of the six pillars of faith that every Muslim should believe in.


    More on the topic here:
    http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/20806

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    Originally Posted by N.W.A View Post
    Wa'alaykum Asalam,
    Everything is predestined in Islam not only the two that you have in mind. Qadr(decree) is one of the six pillars of faith that every Muslim should believe in.


    More on the topic here:
    http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/20806
    Then what is free will?

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    Originally Posted by earnings View Post
    Then what is free will?
    Allah has given us free will. He has shown us the right path which is the path that the prophet(pbuh) showed us. We make the choice if we choose to follow that path or not. We will be judged by our actions on the day of judgment.

    “Has not the story reached them of those before them? — The people of Nooh (Noah), ‘Aad, and Thamood, the people of Ibraaheem (Abraham), the dwellers of Madyan (Midian) and the cities overthrown [i.e. the people to whom Loot (Lot) preached]; to them came their Messengers with clear proofs. So it was not Allaah Who wronged them, but they used to wrong themselves”

    [al-Tawbah 9:70]

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    Originally Posted by earnings View Post
    Asalamu Alaikum Akhi,

    I was wondering or looking for evidence that in Islam Allah has provided us with three things that are prewritten/predestined. For example, like marriage (naseeb) it is already pre written by Allah SWT who you will marry or how many times you will marry. Also the time/place of your death.

    If this is true, what is the third? I always heard of this but was never presented with authenticated evidence.
    I have never heard of that.

    Go through this

    http://www.al-islam.org/mananddestiny/

    It might also help in answering the another question you asked about free well.
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