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    [QUOTE=SYRIANKID;842798731]Early Muslims included blacks.

    I can't comment on whether that quote is real or not:

    I can tell you that racism is forbidden in Islam, explicitly by the Prophet (pbuh) in defense of his black companions.



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    That's funny because Bilal (ra) was one of the greatest companion of the prophet (pbuh).

    And scholars say Luqman (ra) may have been black.



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    Originally Posted by MeteorMan View Post
    Early Muslims included blacks.

    I can't comment on whether that quote is real or not:

    I can tell you that racism is forbidden in Islam, explicitly by the Prophet (pbuh) in defense of his black companions.

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    Chapter 31 of the Qur'an is called "Luqman". It talks about a pious man giving advice to his son.

    In a hadith, the Prophet (pbuh) said that two most pious black people were Luqman and Belal (may God be pleased with him). [Reference, Al Kitab al Kabeer, Suyuti] The Qur'an doesn't say that Luqman was given a book or that God spoke with him. It's possible he was a Prophet but we really don't know for sure.
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    Can you tell me why Muslims are desecrating UK and Commonwealth wargraves when it was the Americans who accidentally burnt the Koran?

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...g-7536474.html

    Also, why aren't Christians killing Muslims for purposefully smashing graves in the same way that Muslims are killing Christians for accidentally burning books?

    BTW. I'm not a Christian so it's not a question asked from a biased viewpoint.

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    Hello again,
    My question is: according to islam, how old is the universe/earth/creation?
    i've heard many people (muslims and others) saying that islam says that the creation started 10000 years ago, which is not making any sense considering that there are fossils dating many millions years ago!

    p.s: an answer in arabic would be fine!
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    Originally Posted by SYRIANKID View Post
    As-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu
    Bismillah Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem
    Allahuma Salli 'ala Muhammad wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi ajma'een wa sallim


    1) He's reliable on most issues, just not things dealing with madthabs, sufism, mawlids, and those usual issues

    2) Of course they can get married, and such issues are not even on the radar as major differences. I'd never argue with someone over such petty issues, even if someone disagrees and is wrong. I would just leave the information and that's that.

    3) As in the information above, I would say that making dhikr, talking about the seerah of the Prophet (pbuh), and sending the peace and blessings of God upon the Prophet (pbuh) are all sunnahs done during the life of the Prophet (pbuh) and by the first few generations of Muslims. More importantly, it is permitted by the classical scholars, so whoever isn't satisfied by that won't be satisfied by anything.

    Now if she means doing anything beyond that, then she is correct, many people DO perform innovations on such events, but let's not mix what is permissible and impermissible.

    4) I linked you to all the information you need. I stick with the verdicts of the classical scholars, and there is no difference of opinion on the permissibility of dhikr, talking about the seerah of the Prophet (pbuh), and sending the peace and blessings of God upon the Prophet (pbuh).

    Whoever doesn't like that then it doesn't bother me, because I've done my part. I don't have time to argue with such people about such things.

    The key is for you to learn and understand the information.

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    Thank you. You are correct, I need to read the links properly and not just skim through them as I know thats what your suggesting and I have just started to follow this. I will learn more God willing.
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    Originally Posted by BloodySalad View Post
    Can you tell me why Muslims are desecrating UK and Commonwealth wargraves when it was the Americans who accidentally burnt the Koran?

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...g-7536474.html

    Also, why aren't Christians killing Muslims for purposefully smashing graves in the same way that Muslims are killing Christians for accidentally burning books?

    BTW. I'm not a Christian so it's not a question asked from a biased viewpoint.
    Probably because U.S. and Britain are allies, and when you're out for revenge you just do random things to hurt people. You're asking me to explain the behavior of other people I don't know. That's the best I can do.

    As for your second question, the U.S., Britain, and other Nato countries have directly killed tens of thousands of Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan. So to add insult to injury and also desecrate religious texts, accidentally or not, is not surprisingly going to piss a lot of people off who already can't stand the sight of foreigners meddling in their country. That's my best guess.
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    Originally Posted by Jafar123 View Post
    Hello again,
    My question is: according to islam, how old is the universe/earth/creation?
    i've heard many people (muslims and others) saying that islam says that the creation started 10000 years ago, which is not making any sense considering that there are fossils dating many millions years ago!

    p.s: an answer in arabic would be fine!
    According to Islam, no date is given on when the universe or earth were created. We don't go by "what people say". We go by references to the Qur'an or Prophetic example as a starting point.
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    Sorry if this has been asked before but what is the Islamic view on Masturbation? And also what is the overall attitude in Islamic communities about fapping? (and yes im aware that it will change from community to community).. Do parents go out of their way to prevent kids from fapping or is tolerated?

    Did a cursory check on the Internets and says it is haraam or that it is debatable.. Hard to find anything on Islam with all these American rightwing anti-Islamic sites popping up... lolz

    Anyways, it is common to find guys who strictly adhere to Islam who have never fapped before? I ask since I have never fapped myself (not for religious reasons.. im an atheist) and when I say this people think I'm either joking , outright lying, or if they do believe me they cannot fathom how it is even possible. (I mean look at the misc.. lol seems like there is some fap thread created every 5mins)..

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    Originally Posted by damlurker View Post
    Sorry if this has been asked before but what is the Islamic view on Masturbation? And also what is the overall attitude in Islamic communities about fapping? (and yes im aware that it will change from community to community).. Do parents go out of their way to prevent kids from fapping or is tolerated?

    Did a cursory check on the Internets and says it is haraam or that it is debatable.. Hard to find anything on Islam with all these American rightwing anti-Islamic sites popping up... lolz

    Anyways, it is common to find guys who strictly adhere to Islam who have never fapped before? I ask since I have never fapped myself (not for religious reasons.. im an atheist) and when I say this people think I'm either joking , outright lying, or if they do believe me they cannot fathom how it is even possible. (I mean look at the misc.. lol seems like there is some fap thread created every 5mins)..
    It's not permissible, but keep in mind that neither is viewing pornography nor fornication:

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    1)Shouldn't parents be teaching there kids why Islam allows certain things and prohibits them? For example Most just say It's haram to the kids but no reason or ruling on it, which might lead to the kid disbelieving.
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    Originally Posted by SYRIANKID View Post
    Probably because U.S. and Britain are allies, and when you're out for revenge you just do random things to hurt people.
    Did not the UK and the US liberate those same people from Gaddafi?
    And you didn't answer my second question. I asked why Christians aren't killing Muslims for the desecration of those graves just as Muslims are killing Christians for accidentally burning books. It has nothing to do with "meddling foreigners".

    BTW. NATO has not "directly killed tens of thousands of Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan". That is one complete and utter fallacy. I think you'll find that those "tens of thousands" were killed by other Muslims. Always the same though isn't it? Pull the trigger and blame someone else.

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    Originally Posted by BloodySalad View Post
    Did not the UK and the US liberate those same people from Gaddafi?
    Yes they did, but they also killed tens of thousands of Muslims in other countries.

    And you didn't answer my second question. I asked why Christians aren't killing Muslims for the desecration of those graves just as Muslims are killing Christians for accidentally burning books. It has nothing to do with "meddling foreigners".
    Christians in general are more laid back than Muslims about the honor of their religion, from what I've seen. People mock Jesus (pbuh) and Christians don't do anything about it. Muslims take those things more personally than insults.

    BTW. NATO has not "directly killed tens of thousands of Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan". That is one complete and utter fallacy. I think you'll find that those "tens of thousands" were killed by other Muslims. Always the same though isn't it? Pull the trigger and blame someone else.
    Muslims have also killed other Muslims, but so have Americans and British soldiers.
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    Originally Posted by Kurd4evah View Post
    1)Shouldn't parents be teaching there kids why Islam allows certain things and prohibits them? For example Most just say It's haram to the kids but no reason or ruling on it, which might lead to the kid disbelieving.
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    Everyone should understand the proofs of the religion.

    What you're saying should come in stages according to a child's understanding. For example, teaching a 5 year old why stealing is haram can be more basic than going through all the proofs in the Qur'an and hadiths. They need to establish certainty of God's knowledge in everything they do, first, and also the concept of not harming others. These are more general principles to teach younger people than the legal proofs.

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    So SK, heard someone accuse a brother of being religious because he couldn't get any girls in High school and so he turned to Islam.
    Basically, accusing someone of being religious because they took solace in believing that they'll get paradise, do whatever they want etc.. and kind of make them feel better for "sucking" at life.

    I think we'd all agree no one should accuse anyone like this, but it is probably true that some people may become religious after "failing" at chasing sins that everyone else are enjoying. However, some might not become religious and just be bitter at life.

    My thinking is that, God shows everyone signs to turn to Islam. We should all take heed to what's around us and the above is just one way God chooses to bring people to Islam. Lastly, no one is really going to BELIEVE in Islam just because they weren't getting girls and want to feel better thinking about afterlife. The obligations to fulfill 5 times prayer and be upright moral person don't come without true conviction.

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    So SK, heard someone accuse a brother of being religious because he couldn't get any girls in High school and so he turned to Islam.

    Basically, accusing someone of being religious because they took solace in believing that they'll get paradise, do whatever they want etc.. and kind of make them feel better for "sucking" at life.

    I think we'd all agree no one should accuse anyone like this, but it is probably true that some people may become religious after "failing" at chasing sins that everyone else are enjoying. However, some might not become religious and just be bitter at life.

    My thinking is that, God shows everyone signs to turn to Islam. We should all take heed to what's around us and the above is just one way God chooses to bring people to Islam. Lastly, no one is really going to BELIEVE in Islam just because they weren't getting girls and want to feel better thinking about afterlife. The obligations to fulfill 5 times prayer and be upright moral person don't come without true conviction.

    What's your take on this?

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    1) First, I'd say that the person who spends their time chasing after girls, partying, or in worse activities like fornication, drinking etc. is the one that "sucks at life". That goes beyond just wasting time, that is using time and money to destroy one's self.

    2) If someone COULD HAVE sinned, but chose not to, then that is a high level of discipline and faith indeed.

    3) However, if someone COULD NOT have sinned, and chose a religious lifestyle, then that is still a demonstration of discipline and faith, because there are many people who are blocked from certain sins so they settle for even more repugnant sins. Just as an example, anyone in this day and age can "party" and fornicate if they want to. They might not be with the most popular or attractive people, but they can still do those things whenever they want. Even then, there is nothing that motivates them to pursue religion sincerely and actively besides true faith.

    So to whoever is even remotely blocked from pursuing sins, then they should be congratulated and they should take that as a blessing from God. It's an opportunity for them to turn to what will benefit them after they die.

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    "I shall tell you something which you must remember well. The world belongs to one of four kinds exclusively:
    1. A servant [of God] upon whom God Almighty and Exalted bestowed property and knowledge, by means of which he seeks to protect himself from His Lord's displeasure and strengthen family ties, knowing that God Almighty and Exalted owns rights over that property and knowledge. This is truly the best of stations.
    2. A servant [of God ] upon whom God Almighty and Exalted bestowed knowledge but not property, who is truthful in his intention and says: 'If I had property I would do the deeds of So-and-so.' His status is according to his intention, and the reward of each of the two is exactly the same.
    3. A servant [of God ] upon whom God Almighty and Exalted bestowed property but not knowledge, who gropes aimlessly with his property without knowledge, not seeking to protect himself from His Lord's displeasure with it, nor strengthening family ties with it, not recognizing that God Almighty and Exalted owns rights over that property. This is truly the worst of stations.
    4. A servant [of God ] upon whom God Almighty and Exalted bestowed neither property nor knowledge, who says: 'If I had property, I would use it to do the [evil] deeds of So-and-so.' His status is according to his intention, and the burden of each of the two is exactly the same."
    [Narrated by al-Tirmidhi who declared it hasan sahih, and Ibn Majah.]


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    Chasma I was actually accused of this by some people that i decided to loose contact with. It is VERY EASY to sin my brother. Especially in this day and age such fornication,drinking etc has become like drinking a glass of water.

    1) The importance of family, keeping touch whether they believe or not.

    EDIT: 2) If a caliphate were to happen, how would it be done? Is it just as simple as choose a khalifah and the Muslim countries agree to be one...?
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    Originally Posted by SYRIANKID View Post
    It's not permissible, but keep in mind that neither is viewing pornography nor fornication:

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...postcount=9608

    The Prophet (pbuh) said:

    The glance is a poisoned arrow of Satan. Whoever lowers his gaze for the sake of God, He will bestow upon him a refreshing sweetness of faith which he will find in his heart on the day that he meets Him. [Ihya, Ghazali]
    ha! I knew it!! People act like I'm the only person in the entire world who is on no-fap for life.. wtf..

    So its safe to assume that a large amount of practicing Muslims are on no fap for life...


    Originally Posted by Kurd4evah View Post
    Chasma I was actually accused of this by some people that i decided to loose contact with. It is VERY EASY to sin my brother. Especially in this day and age such fornication,drinking etc has become like drinking a glass of water.
    Join FA Crew brah.. Cant help u with other sins but its guarenteed to keep you away from fornication and drink 4 lyfe..

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    ha! I knew it!! People act like I'm the only person in the entire world who is on no-fap for life.. wtf..

    So its safe to assume that a large amount of practicing Muslims are on no fap for life...
    Yes, but Muslims try to get married as soon as they can.
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    Originally Posted by Kurd4evah View Post
    Chasma I was actually accused of this by some people that i decided to loose contact with. It is VERY EASY to sin my brother. Especially in this day and age such fornication,drinking etc has become like drinking a glass of water.

    1) The importance of family, keeping touch whether they believe or not.

    EDIT: 2) If a caliphate were to happen, how would it be done? Is it just as simple as choose a khalifah and the Muslim countries agree to be one...?
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    1) Very important:

    http://www.sunnipath.com/library/Hadith/H0003P0002.aspx

    http://www.sunnipath.com/library/Hadith/H0003P0001.aspx

    2) Nothing in politics is ever simple, but at a minimum the Caliph must be elected by the most prominent members of society i.e. upright scholars.

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    Originally Posted by damlurker View Post
    Join FA Crew brah.. Cant help u with other sins but its guarenteed to keep you away from fornication and drink 4 lyfe..
    How about I invite you to a much bigger and the best of groups, this Ummah!
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    Salaam.

    1) I think its the Maliki who believe only, who say moving your head to the side is sufficient enough rather than twice at the end of the prayer. I mean would this not complete your prayer, is there any evidence to suggest one salaam is enough? If not, then how can these schools be reliable like you suggested.
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    Salaam.

    1) I think its the Maliki who believe only, who say moving your head to the side is sufficient enough rather than twice at the end of the prayer. I mean would this not complete your prayer, is there any evidence to suggest one salaam is enough? If not, then how can these schools be reliable like you suggested.
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    Yes, there is evidence that shows that the tasleem to the right shoulder is obligatory but the second is sunnah (i.e. not obligatory).

    http://www.seekingilm.com/archives/17

    See also:

    http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/yadain.htm

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    1) Do you need to physically be in mosque for fulfill praying in the congregation? what if i have a live access to Salah, with cameras and sound etc..
    1a) Went to mosque and on the ground floor a brother was keeping his shop. He could listen to the Imam from the loudspeaker and prayed right where he worked. Is this permissible?
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    Originally Posted by chashma1 View Post
    1) Do you need to physically be in mosque for fulfill praying in the congregation? what if i have a live access to Salah, with cameras and sound etc..
    1a) Went to mosque and on the ground floor a brother was keeping his shop. He could listen to the Imam from the loudspeaker and prayed right where he worked. Is this permissible?
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    1) That doesn't fulfill the requirement to pray inside a Mosque as opposed to inside your home.

    2) It's actually forbidden to buy and sell things inside a Mosque. It's also doesn't count as congregational prayer if you are separate from the congregation i.e. you aren't even part of the congregation if you are in a broken or distant row, let alone that far away.

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    Originally Posted by SYRIANKID View Post
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    1) That doesn't fulfill the requirement to pray inside a Mosque as opposed to inside your home.

    2) It's actually forbidden to buy and sell things inside a Mosque. It's also doesn't count as congregational prayer if you are separate from the congregation i.e. you aren't even part of the congregation if you are in a broken or distant row, let alone that far away.

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    2) Well, idk what the case is. Maybe mosque has the lease to the upper portion and the shopkeeper has it for lower portion.
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    i just would like to aware you on a great movie, 'free man' which is basically a biography of the life of bediuzzaman said nursi

    it's really good and well worth the time - strongly recommend it to everyone



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    SK if i remember correctly you had some of his books on your 'to-do' list?


    EDIT: if someone can find legit link with subtitles please post them


    mind blowing info about him(hope i still remember these right): he liked to read and debate, at the age of 14-15 he finishes religious school 'medrese' and starts travelling/debating/learning etc. - no higher school wanted to take him because of his young age at first....at 15 he comes to the city of an alim/schoolar and learns/remembers fully around 80 books from his library, continueing like this - debating etc. at around 18/19 he sees that he is lacking scientifical knowledge and start reading up and learning on it really fast - becoming a very well respected scholar himself who wrote many great books

    his books 'risale-i-nur' are on a whole other dimension than what you normally read, you really have to concentrate and read it thoroughly to try and understand it fully, and everytime you re-read it you get a whole other understanding/idea of the topic - a truly gifted man he was
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    Salaam.

    I bought an expensive cake for around 12 dollars, I was looking forward to eating it tonight, but can't until I get an verification off you. I always check ingredients, but store was a tad busy and rushed and guess I missed out on everything. I saw that it has 'cassis liqueur' inside the cake made from some wine that is black currant. I would imply this could be haraam not sure at all. Is this haraam?

    a) IF so, then should I chuck it away even though I am wasting 12 dollars down the drain. (I got no receipt btw)
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    Salaam.

    I bought an expensive cake for around 12 dollars, I was looking forward to eating it tonight, but can't until I get an verification off you. I always check ingredients, but store was a tad busy and rushed and guess I missed out on everything. I saw that it has 'cassis liqueur' inside the cake made from some wine that is black currant. I would imply this could be haraam not sure at all. Is this haraam?

    a) IF so, then should I chuck it away even though I am wasting 12 dollars down the drain. (I got no receipt btw)
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    Liqueur is a flavoured wine, so that's haram.

    You should either dump it or exchange it for something else.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cr%C3%A8me_de_cassis

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