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    BOLD at 1g, ESTANE at 30mg 8 WEEK BULK CYCLE! GTFIH!

    Yes, the title says it correctly! I will be running my third cycle here of Bold 200 and Estane. Im pretty stoked about this cycle, as the first two cycles I ran were just of HDrol at low dosages for a mild recomping effect. I will be updating this log daily, and keeping notes of all lifts, sides, libido, and everything else for information for future users. I will be lifting 5 days M-F, with W being a cardio only day. I will be shooting for calories between 4500-5500, protein at 300 plus, carbs at 450-600, and fats between 100-150. I wont post my diet daily, but it is very clean including all whole grain, mostly chicken, tuna, salmon, and beef. I do take fish oils daily, flax seed oil, and all natural peanut butter, and almond butter for good fats. I will be pre-loading for one week of CEL cycle assist. I also will be taking 5g of NOW MACA every day to avoid libido issues.

    Cycle Pre-Load:

    CEL Cycle Assist for 1 Week:
    8

    Cycle:

    I-Force Nutrition BOLD 200 for 8 Weeks
    1g/1g/1g/1g/1g/1g/1g/1g
    CEL E-Stane for 5 Weeks:
    0/0/0/30mg/30mg/30mg/30mg/30mg
    Creatine Mono for 8 Weeks:
    10g ED
    CEL Cycle Assist:
    8/8/8/8/8/8/8/8
    NOW MACA:
    5g ED

    PCT:

    Nolva:
    40/20/20/10
    Lean Xtreme:
    0/0/3/3/3/3
    Bioforge:
    4/4/4/4/4/4
    Creatine Mono:
    10g ED
    Animal Pak:
    1/1/1/1/1/1
    NOW MACA:
    5g ED

    Besides all the supps listed I do take the staples including:

    Multi
    Fish Oil
    Whey
    Casein
    Creatine Mono

    I will be starting pre-loading cycle assist starting Monday, 2/8, and starting my cycle as of Monday, 2/15. Ill post beginning pictures and measurements also.
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    Well today is the day! I start the cycle assist today! In one week I start to get swole!!
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    Well today is the day! I start the cycle assist today! In one week I start to get swole!!
    subbed bro. Cant wait. You gonna snap some before pics?
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    Originally Posted by Phrogg View Post
    subbed bro. Cant wait. You gonna snap some before pics?
    Yes Ill post measurements and before pics Monday, 2/15.
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    I have decided that I have enough to run it at:

    BOLD
    1G/1G/1G/1G/1G/1G/1G/1G
    ESTANE
    0/0/0/40MG/40MG/40MG/40MG/40MG
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    Im gettin crazy excited to run this cycle and log! Im doing good on my bulk so far, its hard to get in almost 5,000 calories a day!
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    Post some before and afters!
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    I will be starting BOLD Saturday at 1g a day! My dosing scheme will be:

    6am: 2 caps

    11am: 1 cap

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    Countdown of 2 days until insanity!
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    Originally Posted by MethylLifter View Post
    I will be starting BOLD Saturday at 1g a day! My dosing scheme will be:

    6am: 2 caps

    11am: 1 cap

    6pm: 2 caps

    Countdown of 2 days until insanity!
    Your cycle looks solid man, good luck. Ill be following along. Your going to blow the f^ck up. lol.
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    Originally Posted by jrbeard View Post
    Your cycle looks solid man, good luck. Ill be following along. Your going to blow the f^ck up. lol.
    I sure as hell hope so!
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    Day 3

    DAY 3
    MONDAY
    BICEPS, ABS, QUADS

    Weight: 182.5lbs (+2.5)

    BICEPS:

    PULL-UPS:
    BW x 7
    BW x 7
    BW x 5
    BW x 4
    EZ-BAR CURLS:
    95lbs x 10
    100lbs x 8
    105lbs x 3
    85lbs x 6
    HAMMER CURLS:
    35s x 10
    40s x 8
    45s x 6

    ABS:

    WEIGHTED SIT-UP MACHINE:
    80lbs x 20
    80lbs x 20
    80lbs x 20
    80lbs x 20
    80lbs x 20
    80lbs x 20

    QUADS:

    SQUATS:
    185lbs x 10
    225lbs x 8
    275lbs x 6
    315lbs x 4
    HACK SQUATS:
    90lbs x 16
    140lbs x 10

    Well today was actually my first workout "ON" this cycle. It felt good. I had a very long weekend, so it was a pretty rough day back at the gym. I didn't set the world on fire being that I was pretty tired this morning to peel my lazy ass out of my bed. I am up 2.5lbs from my starting weight of 180lbs, which is good. I have no notable sides at all, which I dont expect to this early. I will be putting up much better workouts from here on out though.
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    Day 4

    DAY 4
    TUESDAY
    CHEST, CALVES

    Weight: 183.5lbs (+3.5)

    CHEST:

    FLAT BENCH PRESS:
    45lbs x 12
    135lbs x 10
    150lbs x 8
    165lbs x 6
    190lbs x 5 (PR!)
    CHEST DIPS:
    BW x 6
    BW x 6
    BW x 6
    BW x 6
    UPWARD CABLE CROSSOVERS:
    40lbs x 10
    40lbs x 10
    50lbs x 10
    50lbs x 10
    DB CHEST FLYES:
    35s x 10
    40s x 8
    45s x 6
    50s x 4
    INCLINE PRESS MACHINE:
    80lbs x 6
    90lbs x 4
    100lbs x 2

    CALVES:

    DONKEY CALF RAISE MACHINE:
    210lbs x 10
    240lbs x 8
    270lbs x 6
    300lbs x 4

    I actually had an awesome chest day today. I felt very strong on chest. I know it's wayyyy to early to be from the BOLD, but I do feel it is from the huge surplus in calories finally showing up in strength. I could actually feel the weights going up easier, and I think I could have put up more if I tried really.
    I have no sides at all to report; except that the first day or two on BOLD I had some horrendous headaches, but they went away the following day and have not came back.

    One other side not to add is the fact that my appetite has been destroyed. Im never hungry anymore; and I actually have to force myself to eat.
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    for your dips, you should do more than 6 reps each set. and add weight if you can. you'll see that weighted dips help alot
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    Originally Posted by Iron_Italian View Post
    for your dips, you should do more than 6 reps each set. and add weight if you can. you'll see that weighted dips help alot
    Im working up to more.
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    Day 6

    DAY 6
    THURSDAY
    BACK, HAMSTRINGS, ABS

    Weight: 183.5lbs (+3.5)

    BACK:

    DEADLIFT:
    195lbs x 10
    235lbs x 8
    285lbs x 6
    325lbs x 4
    PULL-UPS:
    BW x 5
    BW x 5
    BW x 5
    BW x 5
    DB ROWS:
    60lbs x 10
    60lbs x 10
    60lbs x 10
    60lbs x 10
    WIDE GRIP CABLE ROWS:
    100lbs x 10
    120lbs x 8
    140lbs x 6
    160lbs x 4

    HAMSTRINGS:

    LEG CURL:
    60lbs x 10
    60lbs x 10
    60lbs x 10
    60lbs x 10

    ABS:

    WEIGHTED AB MACHINE:
    80lbs x 20
    80lbs x 20
    80lbs x 20

    It was a hell of a back day I must say! I felt strong on all my lifts, sore some, but strong. I am getting a slight amount of acne, even though I upped the face wash to a few times a day now. I do think that most of the headaches have subsided, which is a nice thing. I have no other sides to report, going strong.
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    I took some quick measurements. I know the waist isn't the best; but I am bulking. I plan to cut after PCT this summer, but until then I will be gaining all the muscle and strength I can.

    Measurements:
    Left forearm: 11
    Left bicep: 12
    Left thigh: 22
    Right forearm: 11
    Right bicep: 12
    Right thigh: 22
    Waist: 34 1/2
    Neck: 15 1/4
    Chest: 38 1/4

    One other side note, Im not sure if it is related to the BOLD or not, but I think Im having some anxiety sides also.
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    Subbed, I just ran bold and proto and I'm logging rv2 myself. I switched pcts because nolva was increasing anxiety terribly aloong with other sides. It could be the bold for you, I've heard similar storiethough I personally have anxiety (take ***** for it when its bad) and I was fine on my bold cycle. Its the protodrol that f*cked with me and the nolva. Either way, good luck bro. Subbed for sure. If you're curious about rv2 at all check my log it should be interesting.
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    oh ok my bad. keep it up then
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    Originally Posted by trainhard8624 View Post
    Subbed, I just ran bold and proto and I'm logging rv2 myself. I switched pcts because nolva was increasing anxiety terribly aloong with other sides. It could be the bold for you, I've heard similar storiethough I personally have anxiety (take ***** for it when its bad) and I was fine on my bold cycle. Its the protodrol that f*cked with me and the nolva. Either way, good luck bro. Subbed for sure. If you're curious about rv2 at all check my log it should be interesting.
    Yes, proto can be very bad for anxiety. Any DHT derivitive has a strong possibility for an increase in anxiety, due to DHT's effects on the CNS.

    I am prone to anxiety (on paxil) and never had a problem with bold. Im sure the paxil helped, But i've never heard of anyone having anxiety on bold. Its a derivitive of testosterone, which if anything.... gives feelings of well being.

    I've heard of E-stane causing anxiety though OP.
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    Originally Posted by ryanr623 View Post
    Yes, proto can be very bad for anxiety. Any DHT derivitive has a strong possibility for an increase in anxiety, due to DHT's effects on the CNS.

    I am prone to anxiety (on paxil) and never had a problem with bold. Im sure the paxil helped, But i've never heard of anyone having anxiety on bold. Its a derivitive of testosterone, which if anything.... gives feelings of well being.

    I've heard of E-stane causing anxiety though OP.
    Maybe it's just placebo effect so far. I guess Ill just wait it out and see.
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    Maybe it's just placebo effect so far. I guess Ill just wait it out and see.
    Yeah the compounds havent really built up, especially the bold. More than likely E-side effect anxiety from all the horror stories of higher dosed PH cycles.
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    Weight: 185lbs (+5lbs)

    REST

    I took a few days off because I havent been feeling very well, so I wanted to fully recover before I hit the rest of the cycle HARD. I will be changing my routine up a little bit also so I end up hitting chest twice a week, since it is my lacking point.

    Sides: Slight amount of acne, mild back pumps, and increased sleep.

    I havent noticed any sort of alpha feeling, or good sense of well being or anything yet. I have noticed no mirror changes except a little bit of bloating from the monohydrate I switched to, especially at 10g a day.
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    Cool Sounds like a lot of money

    Searching desparately for something that works and spending lots of money doing it. Most items marketed for bodybuilding don't build much muscle....they just make a lot of money for the company. Good luck though........
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    Originally Posted by Lucky-u View Post
    Searching desparately for something that works and spending lots of money doing it. Most items marketed for bodybuilding don't build much muscle....they just make a lot of money for the company. Good luck though........
    Have you researched DS/PH at all? I mean no disrespect, but if you haven't and know nothing about them. Please don't hijack my thread.
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    Day 10

    DAY 10
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    CHEST, CALVES

    Weight: 187lbs (+7)

    CHEST:

    FLAT BENCH PRESS:
    45lbs x 12
    145lbs x 10
    165lbs x 8
    185lbs x 6
    205lbs x 4 (PR!)
    225lbs x 1 (PR!)
    CHEST DIPS:
    BW x 6
    BW x 6
    BW x 6
    BW x 6
    UPWARD CABLE CROSSOVERS:
    50lbs x 10
    50lbs x 10 (PR!)
    60lbs x 10
    60lbs x 10 (PR!)
    DB CHEST FLYES:
    35s x 10
    40s x 8
    45s x 6
    50s x 4

    CALVES:

    DONKEY CALF RAISE MACHINE:
    210lbs x 10
    240lbs x 8
    270lbs x 6
    300lbs x 4

    I felt strong as hell today! I know I know, it is just a placebo effect, but it is awesome! I set a few more PR'S on bench today, which I have been stuck at for quite some time. I have been getting plenty of protein, carbs, cals, and fats in daily, probably a little too many carbs and cals; but oh well thats what cutting is for later on.

    Noteable sides: Still slight acne in face, slight acne on back now, very itchy head.
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    Originally Posted by Lucky-u View Post
    Searching desparately for something that works and spending lots of money doing it. Most items marketed for bodybuilding don't build much muscle....they just make a lot of money for the company. Good luck though........
    Stfu. These compounds do work and work well. As op said, don't post on things you don't know sh!t about.
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    Stfu. These compounds do work and work well. As op said, don't post on things you don't know sh!t about.
    Exactly. Maybe he should follow along and watch me get swole!
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    Originally Posted by MethylLifter View Post
    Exactly. Maybe he should follow along and watch me get swole!
    Hes probably referring to non-steroidal/hormonal products. Obviously if he thinks PH's and DS's dont work their is something wrong with him.
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    OFF

    WEIGHT: 187.5lbs (+7.5lbs)

    I decided to take my weekly off day today. Im starting to get mild back pumps, so I guess I will adding Taurine into my cycle now; which I have on hand. Im also starting to notice an extra oily face, some more increased acne on upper back, and still mild acne on face. I have yet to see any mirror changes at all, except some extra fat gain from the bulk. I dont really expect to see any mirror changes for a few weeks anyway.
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    Day 12

    DAY 12
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    BICEPS, AND BACK

    Weight: 187.5lbs (+7.5)

    BICEPS:

    PULL-UPS:
    BW x 6
    BW x 6
    BW x 6
    BW x 6
    EZ-BAR CURLS:
    95lbs x 10
    105lbs x 8 (PR!)
    110lbs x 6 (PR!)
    HAMMER CURLS:
    35s x 10
    40s x 8
    45s x 6

    BACK:

    DEADLIFT:
    235lbs x 10 (PR!)
    PULL-UPS:
    BW x 5
    BW x 5
    BW x 5
    BW x 5
    DB ROWS:
    60lbs x 8
    WIDE GRIP CABLE ROWS:
    120lbs x 10 (PR!)
    140lbs x 8 (PR!)
    160lbs x 6 (PR!)

    I had a half decent workout. I could tell strength is starting to come up a little bit, but not a whole lot. Ive had lethargy pretty bad in the mornings, so I may need to get another alarm clock and a stim for pre-workout. But I did manage to cram two days workout into one today, with the exception of legs. Ill work those in tomorrow probably. I also had insane back pumps on deadlifts today. I guess 5g of taurine 30 mins preworkout isn't enough.

    Sides: Bad lethargy in the mornings, acne is going away, oil face, enahnced libido.
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