New pictures of Russia's 5th gen. fighter jet.(Alpha)

[TheTownShaman]

rage.

[Wegzyzz]

still think F-35B vertical landing/take off is the s***. like in die hard 4 tearin dat truck to pieces. But that center module thinger gets owned by debris... : (

[cinemod]

[Random.Human]

France is not building anything for Russia. Russia is just having a thought of buying a French Helicopter Carrier, 1 could be purchased from France and 3-4 others built in Russia. And there is no tech transfer, it's just a metal skin that Russia is interested in, all the electronics would be Russian.

I thought they are having france build them a ship for assault use. I remember reading the article way back. The ship is radically advanced and russia needed france to sort out the technology because in the past russia had reliability issues with their stuff.
They showed a picture and the thing was huge.

Double check my story though. I'm not 100% and I cant surf very well from my mobile phone.



I THINK the ship is called the Mistral? Minstral? Mistal???? Maybe that is the ship you mentioned...

[Steak_n_Taters]

http://forums.nonewbs.com/showthread.php?t=180585

lol, strong source.

Also WTF would we be flying an F22 over China for?

If we wanted to do some espionage, there are WAY better ways to do it than with an F22. It's not a spy plane.

[quietstormx1]

This thread is now about the United States Littoral Combat Ship

The concept behind the littoral combat ship, as described by former Secretary of the Navy Gordon R. England, is to "create a small, fast, maneuverable and relatively inexpensive member of the DD(X) family of ships." The ship is easy to reconfigure for different roles, including anti-submarine warfare, mine countermeasures, anti-surface warfare, intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance, homeland defense, maritime intercept, special operations, and logistics. Due to its modular design, the LCS will be able to replace slower, more specialized ships such as minesweepers and larger assault ships.[3]

Most of the functions of the mission modules will be performed by carried vehicles such as the helicopters or unmanned vehicles such as the Spartan Scout, AN/WLD-1 RMS Remote Minehunting System and MQ-8 Sea Scout. By performing functions such as sonar sweeps for mines or submarines or tor**** launches against hostile submarines at some distance from the ship's hull, the crew is placed at less risk. This is part of the Navy's goal to unman the front lines.[4] One robotic system being considered to reduce manpower requirements is the Roomba.[5]

Also by placing sensors on remote vehicles the LCS will be able to exploit concepts such as bistatic sonar without actually being in two places at the same time.[6]

A report by the Pentagon's director of Operational Test and Evaluation found that neither design was expected to "be survivable in a hostile combat environment" and that neither ship could withstand the Navy's ship shock trials.[7]

[Future-Swole]

Yet the ***gots have the balls to complain that they don't have enough money to fix up the nuclear plant they blew up? Pathetic.

[VirusTi]

^^^ i remember reading about boats like that a few years ago

and the PAK FA looks beautiful.

[foXs]

I thought they are having france build them a ship for assault use. I remember reading the article way back. The ship is radically advanced and russia needed france to sort out the technology because in the past russia had reliability issues with their stuff.

Yeah, it's Mistral and it's not advanced, it's just a heli carrier. Carries like that were made even by the USSR God knows how long ago. And like i said, there is no tech transfer.
French already said that they are ready for the deal and they are waiting for Russia's final word. I personally don't think the deal should go through since they are waste of $.

[Navyboy909]

Yet the ***gots have the balls to complain that they don't have enough money to fix up the nuclear plant they blew up? Pathetic.

age - 17

[HEAT-34]

Yet the ***gots have the balls to complain that they don't have enough money to fix up the nuclear plant they blew up? Pathetic.

Stats: 5'7", 141 lbs

[Muclebuilder1]

The Russians has got nothing. Wait until the top secret German fighter jets roll out of the factories at
a dizzying pace shocking the whole world and the Germans once again take to the skies.

[quietstormx1]

The Russians has got nothing. Wait until the top secret German fighter jets roll out of the factories at
a dizzying pace shocking the whole world and the Germans once again take to the skies.

/thread

[Jedan01]

This thread is now about the United States Littoral Combat Ship

This




beats that^^

Tupolev Tu-22 "Backfire" Soviet bomber with Vampyre Air-to-Naval missiles with a range of 90+ miles

[BetterBehaved]

/thread

BOOM! PROTEIN EVERYWHERe!

[Philip81193]

I'll be honest; I don't know shit about planes, but this looks pretty damn cool.

[remote-control]

You should too learn about the aircraft first before saying stuff like that as well. The engine on T-50 is from the earlier generation. The 5th generation engines are being tested on a different prototype and already had their first flight.

I follow T-50 and most of other military stuff like it closely, no such thing happened, you are making stuff up.

India is investing billions into the Sukhoi, they are planning on buying hundreds of 5th generation Sukhois as well so yes, Russia will produce a lot of those birds.
About the crisis, i don't know what are you on about but Russian economy has been growing 6-8 % for a decade before the World crisis.

LOL. You follow the T-50 closely eh? Well instead of telling you what a f*cking idiot you are for thinking a test pilot in the USAF would know less than what you know, which I'm sure is all hearsay on forums, I'll go ahead and quote a few places.

"[Russian] Air Force chief Alexander Zelin admitted as recently as last August that problems with the engine and in technical research remained unsolved."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7007913.ece

"В любом случае, внешний вид серийного ПАК ФА будет отличаться от его прототипа.
In any case the external appearance of the serial PAKFA will be different.
В частности, изменения может претерпеть кормовая часть, где будут располагаться отклоняемые сопла двигателей.

In part it will affect the aft where the Thrust vectoring nozzles will be located Prototype DID NOT have thrust vectoring engines in it! - WHAT THE HELL were they test flying today then?

Изменения коснутся и передней части - предполагается, что использованный во время испытаний переплетный фонарь кабины пилота будет заменен на цельный.
Front of the aircraft will be changed to a solid cockpit...

Между мотогондолами расположатся внутренние отсеки вооружения.
Between the engine mounts the internal weapon mounts will be created, HMM I wonder if putting in weapons bays will de-stabilize and completely change the capabilities of this plane.

in all truth and honesty, I give up this aircraft, is a dissapointment. its maiden flight is a failure just like the Bulava. It flies but its nothing more than a test bed, of ideas like the Su47 or the MFI1.44"

Scroll down to post #532 for the post I just quoted above. http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/ai...ghter-3725-36/

Even though I don't believe forums are reliable sources of information due to accuracy, that guy was translating what a Russian article was saying.

"Zhukovsky, Moscow Region: Russia's fifth-generation fighter planes, being developed by the Sukhoi design bureau in collaboration with India's Hindustan Aeronautic Ltd (HAL), is set to start flight trials in November, the Russian air force chief said Thursday. He also revealed that the fighters' engine development programme had run into some problems."

Reference for above quote: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2329013/posts

Obviously before you start flaming, yes all new aircraft will have their share of problems, engines and everything.

I am only quoting those because you seem to think I pull sh*t out of my ass. But don't worry, like you said, you follow military aircraft closely. I will make sure to send Robert Gates an email telling him to take future expert advice from you on what to do with our aircraft.

[Sublime82]

The Russians has got nothing. Wait until the top secret German fighter jets roll out of the factories at
a dizzying pace shocking the whole world and the Germans once again take to the skies.

HAI YOU GUISE

[foXs]

still think F-35B vertical landing/take off is the s***. like in die hard 4 tearin dat truck to pieces. But that center module thinger gets owned by debris... : (

The F-35 was mega Alpha in Die Hard.

I feel like watching the movie again now.

[hardwork.86]

russian pilots are superior aswell

[hardwork.86]

WTF is the F-22??



its making me rage that everyone in here posts like they know what an F22 jet is and not one posts pictures of it.



pics of F22 and info now








for reps

**** your lazy man

[DejaBlue55]

beast mode brah

[LW53]

I could commadier one of those

[Random.Human]

lol i was even thinking this to myself when typing that.


so much better just asking the misc instead lol

now YOU must post a pic of the raptor.

[quietstormx1]

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WTF is the F-22??



its making me rage that everyone in here posts like they know what an F22 jet is and not one posts pictures of it.



pics of F22 and info now








for reps

are you blind, or just plain stupid?

[Dodoz]

its all about the pilot brahz.

[AC33]

its all about the pilot brahz.

In Soviet Russia, jet flies you!

[hardwork.86]

euro fighter ****s on all other planes

[foXs]

LOL. You follow the T-50 closely eh? Well instead of telling you what a f*cking idiot you are for thinking a test pilot in the USAF would know less than what you know, which I'm sure is all hearsay on forums, I'll go ahead and quote a few places.

And what does American test pilot know about T-50? It's not Russia let him test the plane....He knows as much about the plane as we do here, which is not a lot and that is a fact.

"Russian Air Force chief Alexander Zelin admitted as recently as last August that problems with the engine and in technical research remained unsolved."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7007913.ece

The article is ancient and the source is horrible as well. Timesonline is like Fox news, only worse. As i already said, the new engines are fine, they have already been successfully tested on a different prototype not long ago. I think the plane with the new engines flew like a month ago or so.
I also don't understand what point you are trying to make. Just like F-35, T-50 is still in tests so failures are common during those times, not that it had many of them...

[Random.Human]

Wow on the above pic of f22. I cant believe how polished the thing looks. You can almost see that it is well refined and capable. No harsh edges and plenty of smooth, sexy lines