Shoulders and chest on same day or seperate day??

[Bossdjay]

I'm beginning to see my lifts taper off, and i suspect its because I lift to failure with chest on monday, Failure with shoulders and tris on wed, then chest to failure again on friday..for those who are curious it looks like this..

Mon
Chest, Bis, Legs (A)

Wed
Shoulders, back, tris (B)

Fri
Chest, Bis, Legs (A)

then back to workout (B) on Monday. Volume consists of two exercises per muscle, per day, to failure. Reps and exercises vary, depending...

Do you guys work chest and shoulders on seperate days??? or is it better to combine them so that they both can heal before you hit them hard again??

Would a better routine be a push/pull repeating in the same way as my current workout??

[nekkidbear]

We don't think of things as a chest/tri back/bi over in the PL section. We train movements. So one day is a bench day and one is a squat day or ones a max effort bench or bax effort lower body day. Train movements, not bodyparts if you want to get stronger.

[Fluster]

Stickies for a powerlifting program. Rest of the entire ginormous forum for bodybuilding stuff.

[Bossdjay]

Ahhhh. I see. Movements not muscle groups. Duly noted. Thanks!

[shadowspar]

for instance benching, why would you want to train your shoulder before, and THEN train your "chest", all you are doing is risking your shoulders still recovering while you bench. not worth it. train same day. as already said train for lifts not the muscle groups.

[ulfhednar]

i do militarry press in the beggining of my work out, and bench press last. Works perfectly.

military press
powercleans
full squat
bench press
pull ups

[muscle_g]

I like doing Bench work, and after I do chest, shoulder, and tricep accessory work.