Americans made a huge mistake by supporting the war on terror.

[Jack612blue]

So we've been in Iraq for 8 years, and Afghanistan for 10..., and what good has come for the American people?

Bin Laden's death? Lol ok

Inflation and price going up ? Hell yeah, money isn't what it is worth because of increased spending and increased printing of money.

Iraqi and Afghani democracy? Really? What gives you the right to impose governments for other countries.


Defense contractors and their Washington buddies? Made big bucks and laughed all the way to the bank.


Cliffs: The population is gullible and blindly patriotic.

[illriginalized]

At this point.. it's out of our hands whether we support it or not.

[Glitch]

holy crap. we have been in a war on terror for 18 YEARS NOW! thats crazy

[Kadisha]

Strong political analysis there. You should be a political science professor at Harvard.

[wulpurgis]

At this point.. it's out of our hands whether we support it or not.

dude, why are you being realistic? this is an idealistic thread where we talk about how things SHOULD BE and refuse to address how things are.

that way we can feel good about ourselves by endlessly criticizing EVERYTHING that happens, without ever having to suggest what SHOULD be done.

that's how postmodernists roll. talk **** about everything, never have anything positive or constructive to say!



herp derp yeah OP, 'Murica is evilz and run by corporations! herp derp

[primetime32]

So we've been in Iraq for 8 years, and Afghanistan for 10..., and what good has come for the American people?

Bin Laden's death? Lol ok

Inflation and price going up ? Hell yeah, money isn't what it is worth because of increased spending and increased printing of money.

Iraqi and Afghani democracy? Really? What gives you the right to impose governments for other countries.


Defense contractors and their Washington buddies? Made big bucks and laughed all the way to the bank.


Cliffs: The population is gullible and blindly patriotic.

You have proof that if we hadn't started the "war on terror" there wouldn't have been more 9/11 type attacks on american soil? I am no defender of the Iraq war, but to say that the war on terror was a failure is either nostradamus or a moron.

[LegitAlpha]

At least my country is getting the fukk outta there soon, I doubt we will ever support America in a war again. I won't vote for any government that does anyway

[nutsy54]

So... The better plan would have been to continue ignoring larger and larger attacks against the US and our citizens? Do nothing in response, and just keep ordering more body bags?

[LegitAlpha]

You have proof that if we hadn't started the "war on terror" there wouldn't have been more 9/11 type attacks on american soil? I am no defender of the Iraq war, but to say that the war on terror was a failure is either nostradamus or a moron.

Not on US soil but:

7/7
Madrid train bombimgs
Moscow tube bombings
Glasgow airport bombings
Countless plots that have been uncovered.

Didn't prevent them from happening

[Dave22reborn]

What does the ****ty economy have to do with the wars?

[nutsy54]

Inflation and price going up ? Hell yeah, money isn't what it is worth because of increased spending and increased printing of money.

Um Wut?

Inflation has been low & stagnant (and frequently negative) for a decade.
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CUUR0..._view=pct_1mth

Federal spending has been outrageous - but only a small portion of that was due to Iraq & Afghanistan. ($1.4 Trillion for those wars during the past 11 years, compared to $32 Billion total Federal spending - 4.4%)

[LegitAlpha]

What does the ****ty economy have to do with the wars?

Wars ain't free

[nutsy54]

Wars ain't free

Beat you to it in Post #11.

The housing bubble killed the economy, not an extra 4.4% in Federal Government spending.

[Dave22reborn]

Wars ain't free

So it wasn't from retards taking out loans that they couldn't afford?

[illriginalized]

So... The better plan would have been to continue ignoring larger and larger attacks against the US and our citizens? Do nothing in response, and just keep ordering more body bags?

Do you support the militarization of police, surveillance cameras on roads, spying on internet users.. actually, I'll cut straight to it; do you support the Patriot Act and the NDAA Bill?

[Dave22reborn]

Do you support the militarization of police, surveillance cameras on roads, spying on internet users.. actually, I'll cut straight to it; do you support the Patriot Act and the NDAA Bill?

You honestly believe that Chicago Police are being militarized? Care to explain how?

[wulpurgis]

Not on US soil but:

7/7
Madrid train bombimgs
Moscow tube bombings
Glasgow airport bombings
Countless plots that have been uncovered.

Didn't prevent them from happening

so, you conclude, don't bother.

ok, cool story bro. i'd rather do something and risk being wrong than do nothing and risk being wrong.

[nutsy54]

Do you support the militarization of police, surveillance cameras on roads, spying on internet users.. actually, I'll cut straight to it; do you support the Patriot Act and the NDAA Bill?

And when faced with a statement you can't refute, just turn around and try to change the subject

Patriot Act: Yes
NDAA: Not so sure (although I don't fall for the hysterical claims that lied about what the bill actually said) I'm more opposed to policy issues being pushed into budget legislation.

Now can we get back to the OP's actual topic and statements?

[illriginalized]

You honestly believe that Chicago Police are being militarized? Care to explain how?

California, North Dakota, and Texas.

I don't know about Illinois.

[LegitAlpha]

so, you conclude, don't bother.

ok, cool story bro. i'd rather do something and risk being wrong than do nothing and risk being wrong.

The government wants you to think that, uses fear so you support it's wars. (semi-srs)

[Merauder]

To the east America are the terrorists

real talk

[LegitAlpha]

To the east America are the terrorists

real talk

One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

If America got invaded by China, every American with a gun would be deemed a terrorist. And the Chinese media would portray them the same way we portray the Taliban, as dehumanised and uncivilised as possible

[cavymeister]

The War Against Terror more like it.



I like acronyms.

[yg7s7]

[Calhexas]

So... The better plan would have been to continue ignoring larger and larger attacks against the US and our citizens? Do nothing in response, and just keep ordering more body bags?

No spending $3.2 trillion to kill a few bad guys was definitely the right decision

[kusok]

So... The better plan would have been to continue ignoring larger and larger attacks against the US and our citizens? Do nothing in response, and just keep ordering more body bags?

Um Wut?

Inflation has been low & stagnant (and frequently negative) for a decade.
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CUUR0..._view=pct_1mth

Federal spending has been outrageous - but only a small portion of that was due to Iraq & Afghanistan. ($1.4 Trillion for those wars during the past 11 years, compared to $32 Billion total Federal spending - 4.4%)

Attacks against US??? lol, wat?



Nutsy, what attacks???

Inflation has been negative? Slow? Have you taken your meds today bro? Have you compared prices of food and gas in the last several years, year to year? Are you swallowing Alan Greenspam's coolaid?

[LegitAlpha]

No spending $3.2 trillion to kill a few bad guys was definitely the right decision

The term "bad guys" is unfortunately very loose and all encompassing, no one knows who they are really. Just fed bullsht to scare us into supporting wars or handing over more tax money. (No conspiracy theorist)

[jmonty]

ya, probably just should have surrendered.

[kusok]

ya, probably just should have surrendered.

to whom???

[Tekkendo]

The term "bad guys" is unfortunately very loose and all encompassing, no one knows who they are really. Just fed bullsht to scare us into supporting wars or handing over more tax money. (No conspiracy theorist)

Are those morons who did the London bombing "bad guys" or some "bullsht to scare us into supporting wars or handing over more tax money"? Are those killers "terrorists" or "freedom fighters"?