I bet I can prove christianity wrong in less than a min (very very srs)

[DanielBeauchamp]

Fact: Science deals with things that can be observed, tested, proven, and demonstrated.

Fact: The Big Bang is essential to proving Evolution.

Fact: The Big Bang cannot be observed, tested, proven, or demonstrated.

Fact: Evolution is not a science because it requires the Big Bang to be scientific, even though it cannot be observed, tested, proven, or demonstrated.

So science has nothing to do with Evolution. Unless YOU were there, you can only speculate.

Stop making it seem like science is opposing religion or like Evolution is science. It's not.

OP, if you can observe, test, prove, and demonstrate the Big Bang to me, I will believe in it. If you cannot:

GTFO.

[Rick12]

dude religion and politics were created just to kill people and have something to fight about

evolution=Win

God= no

i mean i went to a catholic private school but i went to a public highschool

for people who read the bible

if you honestly believe some dude split a entire ocean with his hands and walked through it your an idiot.

if you believe Jesus came with one basket of bread and fish and wine and fed thousand with an endless supply in 1 basket, cmon.

where are these people today why would god stop creating them if they did so much good?

Where are these miracle workers?

where is Jesus?

science just makes sense

[manofhorror555]

So everything in the universe was put into a "singularity"?

No.

It wasn't.


Because that's physically impossible.

did you watch the videos?

[Gancor]

How was god something then, if there universe was nothing? where the **** was god sitting, where was he, how was he, what was he? if there was no "universe" witch is life now a days, what the **** was god.. literally mind blowing thinking of it haha

Well since nearly every religion defines their God as being immaterial, eternal and all encompasing, he is above and beyond the constraints of matter, space and time which is what the universe is.

[voodoochild113]

ITT: Butthurt Christians

[DanielBeauchamp]

Fact: Science deals with things that can be observed, tested, proven, and demonstrated.

Fact: The Big Bang is essential to proving Evolution.

Fact: The Big Bang cannot be observed, tested, proven, or demonstrated.

Fact: Evolution is not a science because it requires the Big Bang to be scientific, even though it cannot be observed, tested, proven, or demonstrated.

So science has nothing to do with Evolution. Unless YOU were there, you can only speculate.

Stop making it seem like science is opposing religion or like Evolution is science. It's not.

Still this. ^

[Patrik24]

So everything in the universe was put into a "singularity"?

No.

It wasn't.


Because that's physically impossible.

did you watch the videos?

op i have a video of u being ass ****ed by 3 black guys, should we let everyone watch them? shutup with these videos, u got no mind so u cant think for urself, so have to rely on videos. what a loser, damn.

[Ellision]

Well since nearly every religion defines their God as being immaterial, eternal and all encompasing, he is above and beyond the constraints of matter, space and time which is what the universe is.

god is a damn alien watching us beyond the universe?

[Rick12]

Fact: Science deals with things that can be observed, tested, proven, and demonstrated.

Fact: The Big Bang is essential to proving Evolution.

Fact: The Big Bang cannot be observed, tested, proven, or demonstrated.

Fact: Evolution is not a science because it requires the Big Bang to be scientific, even though it cannot be observed, tested, proven, or demonstrated.

So science has nothing to do with Evolution. Unless YOU were there, you can only speculate.

Stop making it seem like science is opposing religion or like Evolution is science. It's not.

You ever here of the LHC it recreates the big bang .they already had success with one experiment and are preparing for another

[manofhorror555]

Fact: Science deals with things that can be observed, tested, proven, and demonstrated.

ok?

Fact: The Big Bang is essential to proving Evolution.

no it's not.

Fact: The Big Bang cannot be observed, tested, proven, or demonstrated.

please refute this evidence, then we'll talk:

1) Microwave background radiation

2) The expansion of the universe

3) The cooling of the universe

4) The ratio of hydrogen, helium, lithium, and beryllium.

5) The extreme density smoothness throughout the universe that's over 99,999 parts per 100,000.

6) Why the fluctuations in spacial density that occur at under a billionth the volume of a proton are exactly the same pattern as the largest scale structures in the universe very strongly suggesting that at one point the entire universe was smaller than a billionth the volume of a proton.

7) Why slow role inflation is continueing to this day.

8) Why the amount of matter is exactly the amount predicited by CP breakdown.

Fact: Evolution is not a science because it requires the Big Bang to be scientific, even though it cannot be observed, tested, proven, or demonstrated.

1) Microwave background radiation

2) The expansion of the universe

3) The cooling of the universe

4) The ratio of hydrogen, helium, lithium, and beryllium.

5) The extreme density smoothness throughout the universe that's over 99,999 parts per 100,000.

6) Why the fluctuations in spacial density that occur at under a billionth the volume of a proton are exactly the same pattern as the largest scale structures in the universe very strongly suggesting that at one point the entire universe was smaller than a billionth the volume of a proton.

7) Why slow role inflation is continueing to this day.

8) Why the amount of matter is exactly the amount predicited by CP breakdown.

So science has nothing to do with Evolution. Unless YOU were there, you can only speculate.

yes it does, no one's speculating

Stop making it seem like science is opposing religion or like Evolution is science. It's not.

yes it is.

It angers me when people talk about things they have NO CLUE about.

[biggerplz09]

OP is an idiot.

Science deals with things that are observable, testable, and provable. You cannot observe nor test the creation of life, so Evolution is not a science.

wrong in entirety. you can observe adaptations and how various stimuli interact with each other, and then extrapolate that to the original genesis of life. you can observe how stromatolites, and the first photosynthetic life forms, evolved as oxygen was introduced into the atmosphere. it IS testable. you can observe fossils, create links in DNA, measure half lifes, and much more. you can link life's origins to the same time earth was cooling and temperatures started to settle down. for what you do not know, you establish a degree of uncertainty.

evolution does not claim to be truth, while creationism does.

it is a theory, which by definition seeks to be the best possible explanation based on science. it couldn't give less of a **** whether or not the people who follow it deem it to be true or false.

we cannot directly observe electrons, so are you saying electromagnetism isn't science? we take the context which we can observe, hypothesize, support, and deduce from that. this is all possible with the theory of evolution, and not at all with creationism.

l2scientificmethod.

[DanielBeauchamp]

You ever here of the LHC it recreates the big bang .they already had success with one experiment and are preparing for another

So they created another universe? Link me to the site, cause I've gotta see this for myself.

[manofhorror555]

op i have a video of u being ass ****ed by 3 black guys, should we let everyone watch them? shutup with these videos, u got no mind so u cant think for urself, so have to rely on videos. what a loser, damn.

so it's fine to think whatever you want, without looking at the evidence?

[AndrewK1]

you obviously dont know anything about it then. your red.

if there was a god, hirushima, nazis, 9/11, suicide bombings, VT shooting, and veitnam......god let them innocent people die?

What would be the point of being God if you're going to do everything for everybody this is probably the most common response among people; yet it is the weakest.

What you don't seem to understand is you are created with free will. You can virtually do what you want, but there are consequences to your actions whether it be in this life or the next.

[Rick12]

So they created another universe? Link me to the site, cause I've gotta see this for myself.

on a bagillion xtengillion gamillion smaller scale, but ill get you some info

[manofhorror555]

So they created another universe? Link me to the site, cause I've gotta see this for myself.

you don't know about the LHC yet you're in here trying to debate cosmology with me?



gtfo

[Patrik24]

wrong in entirety. you can observe adaptations and how various stimuli interact with each other, and then extrapolate that to the original genesis of life. you can observe how stromatolites, and the first photosynthetic life forms, evolved as oxygen was introduced into the atmosphere. it IS testable. you can observe fossils, create links in DNA, measure half lifes, and much more. you can link life's origins to the same time earth was cooling and temperatures started to settle down. for what you do not know, you establish a degree of uncertainty.

evolution does not claim to be truth, while creationism does.

it is a theory, which by definition seeks to be the best possible explanation based on science. it couldn't give less of a **** whether or not the people who follow it deem it to be true or false.

we cannot directly observe electrons, so are you saying electromagnetism isn't science? we take the context which we can observe, hypothesize, support, and deduce from that. this is all possible with the theory of evolution, and not at all with creationism.

l2scientificmethod.

WRONG, evolution claims to have the answers, and then critises religion for saying they have the answers, look at the first topic of this WHOLE ****ING THREAD, ' I can prove Christianity wrong in less than a minute'

[DanielBeauchamp]

ok?


no it's not.


please refute this evidence, then we'll talk:

1) Microwave background radiation

2) The expansion of the universe

3) The cooling of the universe

4) The ratio of hydrogen, helium, lithium, and beryllium.

5) The extreme density smoothness throughout the universe that's over 99,999 parts per 100,000.

6) Why the fluctuations in spacial density that occur at under a billionth the volume of a proton are exactly the same pattern as the largest scale structures in the universe very strongly suggesting that at one point the entire universe was smaller than a billionth the volume of a proton.

7) Why slow role inflation is continueing to this day.

8) Why the amount of matter is exactly the amount predicited by CP breakdown.




1) Microwave background radiation

2) The expansion of the universe

3) The cooling of the universe

4) The ratio of hydrogen, helium, lithium, and beryllium.

5) The extreme density smoothness throughout the universe that's over 99,999 parts per 100,000.

6) Why the fluctuations in spacial density that occur at under a billionth the volume of a proton are exactly the same pattern as the largest scale structures in the universe very strongly suggesting that at one point the entire universe was smaller than a billionth the volume of a proton.

7) Why slow role inflation is continueing to this day.

8) Why the amount of matter is exactly the amount predicited by CP breakdown.


yes it does, no one's speculating


yes it is.

It angers me when people talk about things they have NO CLUE about.

Please explain to me how any of that proves that everything was compacted into a small piece of matter billions of years ago? Have you observed the Big Bang? You cannot test something unless you can see the fuking thing!

Where did that small and dense ball of matter come from?

[PCFootball24]

What would be the point of being God if you're going to do everything for everybody this is probably the most common response among people; yet it is the weakest.

What you don't seem to understand is you are created with free will. You can virtually do what you want, but there are consequences to your actions whether it be in this life or the next.

Repped for making a valid point and being Christian.

[Unst0pp4bl3]

I said i proved christianity wrong which I did. IF a holy book contains errors, it is not valid. And many many many experts of the quran or bible agree.

Now you say god, ok that's a different case (which I can also win). But god could be the muslim god? a deistic god? hindu god?

Can you prove to me the christian god is real, yet a deisitic god is not?

No, you didnt. Your argument is, the entire christian religion is wrong, because writers 4000 years ago didnt have an entirely correct scientific understanding of the creation of the universe, which we still dont fully understand. Because god didnt explain to them in full detail the infinitely complex physics of the beginning of the universe, and instruct them to write it down in their texts, the entire religion is void.

And how can you decide that their scientific inaccuracies are "errors"? Do these inaccuracies somehow detract from the meaning and message of the bible? If they do not, how can they be considered "errors"?

[manofhorror555]

OP, if you can observe, test, prove, and demonstrate the Big Bang to me, I will believe in it. If you cannot:

GTFO.

I presented to you evidence, can you refute it?

1) Microwave background radiation

2) The expansion of the universe

3) The cooling of the universe

4) The ratio of hydrogen, helium, lithium, and beryllium.

5) The extreme density smoothness throughout the universe that's over 99,999 parts per 100,000.

6) Why the fluctuations in spacial density that occur at under a billionth the volume of a proton are exactly the same pattern as the largest scale structures in the universe very strongly suggesting that at one point the entire universe was smaller than a billionth the volume of a proton.

7) Why slow role inflation is continueing to this day.

8) Why the amount of matter is exactly the amount predicited by CP breakdown.

[biggerplz09]

WRONG, evolution claims to have the answers, and then critises religion for saying they have the answers, look at the first topic of this WHOLE ****ING THREAD, ' I can prove Christianity wrong in less than a minute'

show me where in the theory of evolution that it cares about Christians?

oh you can't? of course you can't. evolutionists may, but the theory of evolution DOES NOT.

i can show you one hundred Bible verses, at least, which condemn paganism, agnosticism, and other religions and declare Christianity as law.

negged for possibly spreading genes, and delaying evolution of humanity.

[DanielBeauchamp]

you don't know about the LHC yet you're in here trying to debate cosmology with me?



gtfo

I don't need to know what that is to know that if you cannot observe or test something, you cannot prove it.

Prove ANYTHING to me without first testing it or observing it. You can't. You can THEORIZE, but not prove.

YOU gtfo.

[manofhorror555]

No, you didnt. Your argument is, the entire christian religion is wrong, because writers 4000 years ago didnt have an entirely correct scientific understanding of the creation of the universe, which we still dont fully understand. Because god didnt explain to them in full detail the infinitely complex physics of the beginning of the universe, and instruct them to write it down in their texts, the entire religion is void.

And how can you decide that their scientific inaccuracies are "errors"? Do these inaccuracies somehow detract from the meaning and message of the bible? If they do not, how can they be considered "errors"?

lol wut?

If a holy book has bullsh*t in it, it is bullsh*t.
It's called a hoax.

[biggerplz09]

I don't need to know what that is to know that if you cannot observe or test something, you cannot prove it.

Prove ANYTHING to me without first testing it or observing it. You can't. You can THEORIZE, but not prove.

YOU gtfo.

that's why it's the "theory of evolution" not the "proof of evolution"

both evolutionists and creationists don't realize that.

[Rick12]

http://lhc-machine-outreach.web.cern...hine-outreach/

http://www.uslhc.us/

was suppose to be built under texas but in swiss and french borders

[DanielBeauchamp]

I presented to you evidence, can you refute it?

1) Microwave background radiation

2) The expansion of the universe

3) The cooling of the universe

4) The ratio of hydrogen, helium, lithium, and beryllium.

5) The extreme density smoothness throughout the universe that's over 99,999 parts per 100,000.

6) Why the fluctuations in spacial density that occur at under a billionth the volume of a proton are exactly the same pattern as the largest scale structures in the universe very strongly suggesting that at one point the entire universe was smaller than a billionth the volume of a proton.

7) Why slow role inflation is continueing to this day.

8) Why the amount of matter is exactly the amount predicited by CP breakdown.

That is not evidence. That's like saying I found a footprint, so that must mean a murder just took place. It could mean anything.

I ask you again: have you observed or tested the Big Bang?

[manofhorror555]

I don't need to know what that is to know that if you cannot observe or test something, you cannot prove it.

Prove ANYTHING to me without first testing it or observing it. You can't. You can THEORIZE, but not prove.

YOU gtfo.

oh yea?

the world is only 3 years old and was created with everything on it, and all our memories are fake.

prove THAT wrong to me? (srs)

I already presented to you evidence for the big bang, if you're going to say evidence doesn't mean anything, why do you even bother debating with me?

[NeoginCF]

Then how did the "Big Bang" happen? Oh right, nothing happened to nothing, which caused nothing to become a ball that is less than the size of an atom (which is impossible, atoms are the smallest something can be), and said ball had everything in the universe in it. Said ball then exploded because nothing happened to it. Makes perfect sense.
God made the universe.
/thread

If u can say god IS and always has been
Then u don't need to crack down our theory about matter/energy IS and always has been

a molecule>atom>proton>elektron>quarks>...


Everything in this thread is wrong, it is just the most right thing every one of us can think of.

/thread(srsly srs)

[Unst0pp4bl3]

lol wut?

If a holy book has bullsh*t in it, it is bullsh*t.
It's called a hoax.

So if one scientific theory is proven to be 'bull****' eventually, ALL science is bull****, because at one time, the scientific world DID accept that theory.

Thats the logic you are using.