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    deadlifting is the most overrated exercise ever.

    in body building- deadlifting is the most overrated exercise ever. to understand that, you must not confuse popularity with rating. the benchpress (for example) is NOT overrated- it's just very popular. popular =/= overrated.

    the deadlift is overrated. it isn't necessary- at all. the raw fact of the matter is that one can build a limitlessly strong body, without regularly (or ever) deadlifting. there is nothing particularly amazing about this exercise. yes, it is versatile in that it exercises an amazingly large amount of muscles at once. but what does that really mean? it doesn't focus on and nail any muscle in the same way that other exercises do.

    what i am saying is this. one could build their pectorals, shoulders, biceps, forearms- everything, utterly beautifully, without having to deadlift and frankly it's obvious.

    the way people obsess over deadlifting on internet forums is amusing.
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    Originally Posted by texas_longhorns View Post
    what i am saying is this. one could build their pectorals, shoulders, biceps, forearms- everything, utterly beautifully, without having to deadlift and frankly it's obvious.
    Frankly, it's obvious you don't know what deads are for. Of the muscles you listed, only forearms are involved in the deadlift.

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    man, did you register just to complaint about this?
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    Originally Posted by texas_longhorns View Post
    in body building- deadlifting is the most overrated exercise ever. to understand that, you must not confuse popularity with rating. the benchpress (for example) is NOT overrated- it's just very popular. popular =/= overrated.

    the deadlift is overrated. it isn't necessary- at all. the raw fact of the matter is that one can build a limitlessly strong body, without regularly (or ever) deadlifting. there is nothing particularly amazing about this exercise. yes, it is versatile in that it exercises an amazingly large amount of muscles at once. but what does that really mean? it doesn't focus on and nail any muscle in the same way that other exercises do.

    what i am saying is this. one could build their pectorals, shoulders, biceps, forearms- everything, utterly beautifully, without having to deadlift and frankly it's obvious.

    the way people obsess over deadlifting on internet forums is amusing.
    You OBVIOUSLY do NOT know what deadlifts do and actually how good they are for everyone from athletes to rehab patients to the elderly. Im not going to waste my time explaining everything to someone who is so naive. do yourself a favor and go read some stuff on deadlifting by grey cook.
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    Originally Posted by GreenWave1 View Post
    Of the muscles you listed, only forearms are involved in the deadlift.
    i never claimed otherwise.

    Originally Posted by fellipe View Post
    man, did you register just to complaint about this?
    i'm not complaining, just stating.

    yes deadlifts are good (great) for athletes or rehab patients. those are two examples of areas where deadlifting helps a lot. it always helps a lot and it's a fine exercise. it seems like many of you are missing the point.

    what i said i was, in body building- dead lifts are overrated.

    very true.
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    Originally Posted by fellipe View Post
    man, did you register just to complaint about this?
    Excellent man. It is a pretty amazing first post.

    OP, if you are going to troll, then put in some effort.
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    Originally Posted by GreenWave1 View Post
    Excellent man. It is a pretty amazing first post.

    OP, if you are going to troll, then put in some effort.
    why does calling deadlifts overrated have to be trolling.
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    Originally Posted by texas_longhorns View Post
    in body building- deadlifting is the most overrated exercise ever. to understand that, you must not confuse popularity with rating. the benchpress (for example) is NOT overrated- it's just very popular. popular =/= overrated.

    the deadlift is overrated. it isn't necessary- at all. the raw fact of the matter is that one can build a limitlessly strong body, without regularly (or ever) deadlifting. there is nothing particularly amazing about this exercise. yes, it is versatile in that it exercises an amazingly large amount of muscles at once. but what does that really mean? it doesn't focus on and nail any muscle in the same way that other exercises do.

    what i am saying is this. one could build their pectorals, shoulders, biceps, forearms- everything, utterly beautifully, without having to deadlift and frankly it's obvious.

    the way people obsess over deadlifting on internet forums is amusing.

    you are probably the stupidest person i have ever come across on this website. im not going to bother........jesus christ...
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    Originally Posted by MiKeHendrycks92 View Post
    you are probably the stupidest person i have ever come across on this website. im not going to bother........jesus christ...
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    Originally Posted by texas_longhorns View Post
    in body building- deadlifting is the most overrated exercise ever.
    To an extent, this statement is correct. Bodybuilders can better target their musculature by more direct targeting methods (rack pulls, hyperextensions etc.).

    But, the effectiveness and power of the movement makes it appealing to most.
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    Hmm, you do have a point. Many guys on the forums rave about deadlifts and squats, but very few of them actually have great overall muscular development. It is my belief that some guys perform these harder lifts just to believe themselves part of some hardcore group of lifters. But I think that most sensible people know that there isn't a single excercise that is neccesary for muscular development.

    That being said, I do like deadlifts. I think that anyone who is willing to perform grueling and strenuous lifts like squats and deadlifts will most likely develop a mindset and physical endurance that will give them an edge over the recreational gym-rat required for physical progression. It also does work work the back more effectively and efficiently than any other movement.
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    negged for being an idiot.. in one sentence you said that the deadlift hits a whole bunch of muscles, but that its worthless.
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    way to let yourself get upset.
    yes, i am upset. you honestly make me question my faith in God.
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    Originally Posted by krott5333 View Post
    negged for being an idiot.. in one sentence you said that the deadlift hits a whole bunch of muscles, but that its worthless.
    where did i say they were worthless?

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    Well this turned a bit ugly. Why did I call you a troll? Because you come to a body building website and for your first post make a blanket statement about one of the best compound lifts. You go on to state that you can build shoulders, chest and biceps without deadlifting, which is obvious, because it doesn't hit those.

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    Originally Posted by texas_longhorns View Post
    in body building- deadlifting is the most overrated exercise ever. to understand that, you must not confuse popularity with rating. the benchpress (for example) is NOT overrated- it's just very popular. popular =/= overrated.

    the deadlift is overrated. it isn't necessary- at all. the raw fact of the matter is that one can build a limitlessly strong body, without regularly (or ever) deadlifting. there is nothing particularly amazing about this exercise. yes, it is versatile in that it exercises an amazingly large amount of muscles at once. but what does that really mean? it doesn't focus on and nail any muscle in the same way that other exercises do.

    what i am saying is this. one could build their pectorals, shoulders, biceps, forearms- everything, utterly beautifully, without having to deadlift and frankly it's obvious.

    the way people obsess over deadlifting on internet forums is amusing.
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    Look. this is my thesis statement.

    Originally Posted by texas_longhorns View Post
    what i am saying is this. one could build their pectorals, shoulders, biceps, forearms- everything, utterly beautifully, without having to deadlift
    how could you disagree? that's just true.
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    Most underrated is more like it. The power I feel and pump I get from DL's is unparalleled. I literally look like I'm 10lbs. heavier after a DL workout. Everything from my traps to my calves are bursting full of blood.
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    Originally Posted by ezra76 View Post
    Most underrated is more like it.
    again, you are confusing rating with popularity. deadlifts are highly rated. to deny so is to misunderstand vocabulary- point blank.
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    Nothing comes close to the brutal intensity of a max deadlift. Squats come in a close second but for me deadlifts along with most composites separate men from babies.

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    Originally Posted by texas_longhorns View Post
    Look. this is my thesis statement.



    how could you disagree? that's just true.
    No movement is absolutely necessary, but to call DLs overrated is ridiculous. Overrated by who? Go to most gyms and count the number of people doing them. Chances are it will be zero.

    Are squats overrated as well? If not, then why not?
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    well i got my back the way it is now from doing deads, so im just gonna keep doing them . . . and you can just piss off
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    Originally Posted by texas_longhorns View Post
    Look. this is my thesis statement.



    how could you disagree? that's just true.
    if you want a weak core, and to be a toolbag and just develop your pecs, shoulders, and arms, then yes it is true. Deadlifting is a staple in pretty much any serious lifting routine. think what you want.
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    Originally Posted by gjames017 View Post
    if you want a weak core, and to be a toolbag and just develop your pecs, shoulders, and arms, then yes it is true. Deadlifting is a staple in pretty much any serious lifting routine. think what you want.
    no. it is possible to build a very strong core and not be a "toolbag" without deadlifting. to deny the possibility of this is just naive.
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    Most underrated is more like it.
    Truth.

    Online, sure I would say it's overrated. Everyone rants about them and how amazing they are etc etc etc. To that extent I will give you credit. But that's it.


    In the gym, I can honestly say that I have NEVER seen another person besides myself performing deadlifts in the 4+ months I've been going regularly. Honest. Closest thing was a dude doing power cleans. If anything, more people need to start doing deadlifts.
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    Originally Posted by DJAuto View Post
    To an extent, this statement is correct. Bodybuilders can better target their musculature by more direct targeting methods (rack pulls, hyperextensions etc.).

    But, the effectiveness and power of the movement makes it appealing to most.
    Agreed, and nearly everyone in this thread has all but proved his point by simply denying it without providing any such substance to defend it.

    Deadlifts are great, but I do agree that for bodybuilders they are not necessary, but regardless we add them. And I think that this is the case because they are extremely fun to do(outside of their functional use). I'll always have them in my routine. Rack pulls just aren't as exciting. lol
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    Originally Posted by DJAuto
    To an extent, this statement is correct. Bodybuilders can better target their musculature by more direct targeting methods (rack pulls, hyperextensions etc.).

    But, the effectiveness and power of the movement makes it appealing to most.
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    Hmm, you do have a point. Many guys on the forums rave about deadlifts and squats, but very few of them actually have great overall muscular development. It is my belief that some guys perform these harder lifts just to believe themselves part of some hardcore group of lifters. But I think that most sensible people know that there isn't a single excercise that is neccesary for muscular development.

    That being said, I do like deadlifts. I think that anyone who is willing to perform grueling and strenuous lifts like squats and deadlifts will most likely develop a mindset and physical endurance that will give them an edge over the recreational gym-rat required for physical progression. It also does work work the back more effectively and efficiently than any other movement.
    Originally Posted by GreenWave1 View Post
    Well this turned a bit ugly. Why did I call you a troll? Because you come to a body building website and for your first post make a blanket statement about one of the best compound lifts. You go on to state that you can build shoulders, chest and biceps without deadlifting, which is obvious, because it doesn't hit those.

    This sort of behavior is typical of someone who is trolling to get people stirred up.
    Originally Posted by GreenWave1 View Post
    No movement is absolutely necessary, but to call DLs overrated is ridiculous. Overrated by who? Go to most gyms and count the number of people doing them. Chances are it will be zero.

    Are squats overrated as well? If not, then why not?
    I support these posts.

    I am big to bash on deadlifts, when soemone says to do them for bigger bicept fibraz. It is still a great exericse, and one that i love performing. For bodybuilding, a rack pull is better.

    The OP acts like a troll, by pigeon holing a statement so he can't be wrong "zOMG, Look at my jacked pect fibraz! I didn't deadlift to get them!!11oneeleventy!!1"

    Deadlifts are rarely seen in the gym. So I can't really call that overrated. Only place they are raved about is on the forums.

    Flat Bench press is overrated in my opinion. Incline and decline bench both produce better results in my opinion, yet they are used far less than flat bench press. Yet to the OP they are popoular and rated correctly.
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