Dips vs Pullups?

[myku1passkwa]

Is it generally better to do pullups or dips when working on shoulders? Is it better just to do both?

[mojo85]

I prefer the abductor machine for shoulders





In all serious neither is great for shoulders. Military Press FTW.

[armydude1]

Is it generally better to do pullups or dips when working on shoulders? Is it better just to do both?

Depends if you are working the whole shoulder, front delt, or rear delt. Like, I do my front and mid delts on my chest and tri day. And I do my rear delts on my back day. So it really depends. Dips are obviously best done on a chest day, while pullups are best done on a back day.

[keys_10]

Neither, shoulder exercises are good for shoulders!

Dips - Chest or tri's (depending on how you do them)
Pullups - Lats

[myku1passkwa]

Neither, shoulder exercises are good for shoulders!

Dips - Chest or tri's (depending on how you do them)
Pullups - Lats

right, i get that but i usually like to warm up with a set of either dips or pullups if i'm doing upper body, and i started a new shoulder routine and was wondering which one is better to start off with

[armydude1]

Neither, shoulder exercises are good for shoulders!

Dips - Chest or tri's (depending on how you do them)
Pullups - Lats

Not directly, but they deffinately are up there in the list of employed muscles.

Dips call on primarily the chest, tris and front delts.

pullups call on the upper and lower lats, rear delts, and rhomboids (spelling?) mostly, and fore arms, biceps and few others to a lesser extent.

[myku1passkwa]

Not directly, but they deffinately are up there in the list of employed muscles.

Dips call on primarily the chest, tris and front delts.

pullups call on the upper and lower lats, rear delts, and rhomboids (spelling?) mostly, and fore arms, biceps and few others to a lesser extent.

ok thanks

[arto-tech]

I prefer the abductor machine for shoulders





In all serious neither is great for shoulders. Military Press FTW.

this,
military press is amazing

[keys_10]

right, i get that but i usually like to warm up with a set of either dips or pullups if i'm doing upper body, and i started a new shoulder routine and was wondering which one is better to start off with

Personally I wouldn't do either. There are too many other muscles involved to use them as a warm up for your shoulders.
Yes your front delts are involved in dips but they are just as involved in most pressing movements.
And yes your rear delts are involved in pull ups, just like they are involved in most rowing movements.
IMO i wouldn't do any of these but each to their own.

[myku1passkwa]

Personally I wouldn't do either. There are too many other muscles involved to use them as a warm up for your shoulders.
Yes your front delts are involved in dips but they are just as involved in most pressing movements.
And yes your rear delts are involved in pull ups, just like they are involved in most rowing movements.
IMO i wouldn't do any of these but each to their own.

I already stick to the military press in fact I would never skip on on military press. It's probably one of my favorite workouts.

[GreenWave1]

Personally I wouldn't do either. There are too many other muscles involved to use them as a warm up for your shoulders.
Yes your front delts are involved in dips but they are just as involved in most pressing movements.
And yes your rear delts are involved in pull ups, just like they are involved in most rowing movements.
IMO i wouldn't do any of these but each to their own.

I agree with this. If you want to do a warmup for shoulders, then a light set (or two) of military press or arnold press will be more effective.

Dips and pullups are outstanding movements that are great to include in your workouts, just use them appropriately. Like most have said, pullups are primarily a back movement and dips are tris and chest (depending on your form, chest will be more or less involved).

[TrickyFizzer]

Is it generally better to do pullups or dips when working on shoulders? Is it better just to do both?

[healthylifting]

Neither. Pull-ups mainly work your lats. Dips work your triceps. If you want to work shoulders try holding a dumbbell on each side, maybe 20-30 lbs, and extend your shoulders outward (to the side) without bending your elbows.

[ironrat42]

did not read the replies, but dips work chest/tris (emphasize chest by moving weight more forward, vice versa for tris), pull ups work mostly bis with some lats if palms are towards you, and mostly lats if palms are away. Both work forearms and other secondary muscles. I don't really see either as a shoulder exercise, but if I had to choose one I would do pull ups for shoulders.

[derekk1]

Is it generally better to do pullups or dips when working on shoulders? Is it better just to do both?

not to hijack this thread, but would it be better to do squats or deadlifts as a warm-up for calves?

[pooked]

not to hijack this thread, but would it be better to do squats or deadlifts as a warm-up for calves?

hmmm i would go with neither unless u tip toe on your squats.

[armydude1]

not to hijack this thread, but would it be better to do squats or deadlifts as a warm-up for calves?

so your intent is not to hijack this thread? lol.

You dont use your calfs in any of those lifts, lol. Or you shouldnt anyway. A good warm up is a jog. Or grab some dbs and do tippy toes.

[That70sShowDude]

If you had to pick one. Definately go with pull ups. They are the best way to how well you can control your own bodyweight. Quoted from Arnold. Make sure you go all the way up and down ... and don't swing.

[myku1passkwa]

If you had to pick one. Definately go with pull ups. They are the best way to how well you can control your own bodyweight. Quoted from Arnold. Make sure you go all the way up and down ... and don't swing.

thats the answer I was lookin for..but with everyone elses helpful replies i'm just gonna stop doing both from now on. I just did them as a warm up to get moving before my workouts

[Macrobolic]

Is it generally better to do pullups or dips when working on shoulders? Is it better just to do both?

Neither really works the delt muscles all that great, although both will probably provide a little stress on the front delt muscle.

Like mojo85 and others have said, military press is a good way to go.

[derekk1]

so your intent is not to hijack this thread? lol.

You dont use your calfs in any of those lifts, lol. Or you shouldnt anyway. A good warm up is a jog. Or grab some dbs and do tippy toes.

actually, you use your calves in both those lifts.


i posted that as a joke, clearly no one got it.

[armydude1]

actually, you use your calves in both those lifts.


i posted that as a joke, clearly no one got it.

haha, you fail.





















j/p :P

[chazzy1864]

Neither, shoulder exercises are good for shoulders!

Dips - Chest or tri's (depending on how you do them)
Pullups - Lats

^ that


Why not do exercises that focus on those areas for warming up? Perhaps a circuit of light weight raises (bent over, lateral, fronts), etc, to properly warm up the muscle. Then when you get to your first exercise, perhaps a warm up set or two of that, then get into your workout full swing.

[AVOJAMACADA]

actually, you use your calves in both those lifts.


i posted that as a joke, clearly no one got it.

Naa I got it...6/10 on the wit and 6.5/10 on origianality...