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    Too many sets? Exercise grouping, etc.

    I am just coming off of Scivation's Triphase Program which brought me up from 160 to ~175 and I have one week off. I was putting together a program for the next few months and I was looking for some advice in grouping workouts/what days of the week for each workout. What I have right now is:

    Biceps/Triceps

    Standing barbell curls - 3 Sets/10 Reps
    Incline dumbbell curls - 3 Sets/8 reps
    Preacher-curls - 3 Sets/8-10 Reps
    Concentration curls - 2 Sets/8-10 Reps
    Barbell-curl 21s - 2 Sets/21 Reps
    Close-grip bench - 3 sets/8-10 Reps
    Close-grip pushdown - 3 sets/12-15 Reps
    Dips- 3 sets/8-10 Reps
    Skullcrushers - 3 sets/8-10 Reps
    Single arm reverse-grip pushdown - 3 sets/12-15 Reps

    Chest

    Flat Barbell Press: 4 sets x 12-8 reps
    Incline Dumbbell Press: 4 sets x 12-6 reps
    Incline Dumbbell Flyes: 3 sets x 12-8 reps
    Dumbbell Pullovers: 3 sets x 12-10 reps
    Cable Crossovers: 4 sets x 15-12 reps

    Shoulders

    Behind-the-neck military presses ? 12, 10, 8, 6 Reps
    Seated dumbbell presses ? 3 Sets of 8 to 10 Reps
    Side dumbbell laterals ? 3 supersets of 10 to 12 Reps
    Superset with ? Front dumbbell raises
    Lying rear delt dumbbell raise ? 3 sets of 8 to 10 Reps
    Rear cable laterals ? 3 sets of 8 to 10 Reps

    Back/Traps
    Exercise Set 1 Set 2 Set 3 Set 4
    Barbell Bent-Over Row 20 15 10 6 drop set 8
    Close Grip Pulldown 20 12 10 8 drop set 8
    Seated Cable Row 15 10 8 8
    Wide Grip Pullups 20 12 10 8
    Deadlift Supersetted with Dumbell Shrug 15 / 15 12 / 15 6 / 15 6 / 15


    Legs

    Squats:
    2-3 warm-up sets
    2 heavy sets of 5-8 reps or until failure

    Leg Presses:
    3 sets of 20 reps
    The 3rd set is a drop set of 20 x 20 x 20 reps

    Walking Lunges:
    3 sets of walking lunges for 100 yards

    Leg Extensions Superseted With Sissy Squats
    3 sets of 30 reps

    Lying Leg Curls
    1-2 warm-up sets
    3 working sets of 12-15 reps

    A few of the days especially biceps/triceps might have too many sets and a few of the isolated days include a lot of sets if I wanted to combine, say chest and shoulders. Any advice for unneeded exercises I should take out or crucial ones I haven't included?
    Also, is there a specific day of the week I need to be performing each of these workouts to ensure minimal muscle fatigue from previous workouts? (e.g I know doing triceps after a chest day won't be as effective as doing something like chest on monday, triceps on friday, etc.)


    I'm still in a bulking phase till ~185 if it helps any.

    Thanks for any help
    Last edited by jcwang; 01-25-2010 at 03:26 PM.
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    Definitely toooooo many exercises and sets.

    3 chest exercises for a total of 9-12 sets should be enough. Two presses (one with db, other with bb) and a fly should be enough.
    Your shoulder workout is insane. I'd say do a press, lateral raises and something for the rear delts. Thats three exercises in total which hit all three parts of the delts.
    18 sets of pulls/rows also seems quite excessive. Do 2-3 rowing/pulling exercises in total for a total of say 10-12 sets. Don't do the same ones every time, switch them around from workout to workout.
    Leg workout seems more or less ok.

    But your arm day is just insane. I hope you know that arms are small muscle groups that already see plenty of action in pulling and pressing exercises. 2-3 exercises should be quite enough for tris and bis. I think anything over 9 sets is too much.

    As for the grouping, well then there are lots of options here. Definitely make sure that you don't do a chest, shoulder or back day right before or right after your arm day. Thats if you decide to have a separate arm day at all.

    You could go for the classic push, pull and legs split.
    Another option is this:
    Day 1: Chest and biceps
    Day 2: Legs
    Day 3: Rest
    Day 4: Back
    Day 5: Shoulders, traps, triceps
    Day 6-7: Rest

    But thats just my opinion, don't take it as the ultimate truth.
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