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    Looks like lazarito may wait

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/0...ut-rumors.html


    Not that I know jack sh*t about this kid. Could be terrible sign for whoever signs him.

    These international signings are impossible for me to know whether I should be excited or pissed
    Hes a legit big mother****er. Looks extremely advanced for his age

    Im not sure he justifies the price as theres always inherebt risk with international signings but he looks pretty good

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    Keith Law said he has heard from 0 scouts that would suggest to pay more than 20 mill for Lazarito. Braves must be doubling any offer right now. But he is just 16. Different situation than Moncada who had a track record. The Braves already have a verbal from Maitian for I think 4 million. So they are going to probably spend 30 million total this international period.
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    Originally Posted by melanimal_old View Post
    starting a petition to move to Quality Starts instead of the Win stat.
    no thanks

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    Originally Posted by Nodice123 View Post
    no thanks
    3-3 now
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    Originally Posted by melanimal_old View Post
    starting a petition to move to Quality Starts instead of the Win stat.
    bump, I know a lot of us supported this. Anyone who supports the win stat, Id like to know your explanation. It is a stat that a pitcher cannot control, when a QS at least reduces some of the variance. Im not sure how anyone can support a non individual stat, in a fantasy game.
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    Originally Posted by melanimal_old View Post
    bump, I know a lot of us supported this. Anyone who supports the win stat, Id like to know your explanation. It is a stat that a pitcher cannot control, when a QS at least reduces some of the variance. Im not sure how anyone can support a non individual stat, in a fantasy game.
    Cause I just don't like the idea. I have always played in a league with a "W" column... you can take my "W"s from my cold dead hands

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    Originally Posted by melanimal_old View Post
    bump, I know a lot of us supported this. Anyone who supports the win stat, Id like to know your explanation. It is a stat that a pitcher cannot control, when a QS at least reduces some of the variance. Im not sure how anyone can support a non individual stat, in a fantasy game.
    Lol at forcing explanations.

    Wins is the status quo. No explanation needs to be given. It's already in place. QS is the one trying to replace something here, not the other way around.
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    Originally Posted by Nodice123 View Post
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    Fuk ya, thanks boys. Full league now!

    Originally Posted by melanimal_old View Post
    bump, I know a lot of us supported this. Anyone who supports the win stat, Id like to know your explanation. It is a stat that a pitcher cannot control, when a QS at least reduces some of the variance. Im not sure how anyone can support a non individual stat, in a fantasy game.
    Honestly the QS stat makes a lot more sense than W when you're trying to determine the objective value of a pitcher. For me the primary reason for sticking with W is because I've grown accustomed to comparing pitchers in this league with Wins in mind, and my keepers have been slightly influenced by the use of W as a category as opposed to QS. Plus, W is just plain easier to measure as a stat.

    In the short term a switch to QS might have some implications but long term I think it's the better stat to use.

    My vote still goes to Wins though.
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    I'll be nice and give my reasoning I guess.

    Your argument for QS is that it's not linked to team success, right? Well what about RBI's then? Should we do away with that? Same deal with Runs. Possibly even saves and holds (although team effects becomes a bit more murky on these 2)

    It's a slippery slope and honestly I don't think it's such a huge difference maker that an adjustment needs to be made from what was originally set in place. In the end I think it balances out. I got a few wins that I probably shouldn't have and was robbed a few with poor offense during a good start

    Coming from the guy who had Shelby Miller last year.


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    Originally Posted by Nodice123 View Post
    Cause I just don't like the idea. I have always played in a league with a "W" column... you can take my "W"s from my cold dead hands
    so your pitcher who is all set to get his win, clinching you the week, after he went 7 strong shut out innings... has his closer, who isnt even on your fantasy team blow the save and you lose the stat. Seems legit.
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    Originally Posted by SoutheastBeast1 View Post
    I'll be nice and give my reasoning I guess.

    Your argument for QS is that it's not linked to team success, right? Well what about RBI's then? Should we do away with that? Same deal with Runs. Possibly even saves and holds (although team effects becomes a bit more murky on these 2)

    It's a slippery slope and honestly I don't think it's such a huge difference maker that an adjustment needs to be made from what was originally set in place. In the end I think it balances out. I got a few wins that I probably shouldn't have and was robbed a few with poor offense during a good start

    Coming from the guy who had Shelby Miller last year.


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    bro Shelby Miller was one of the luckiest pitchers in baseball. Consider yourself lucky you didnt get the 4 ERA he deserved.
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    Originally Posted by melanimal_old View Post
    so your pitcher who is all set to get his win, clinching you the week, after he went 7 strong shut out innings... has his closer, who isnt even on your fantasy team blow the save and you lose the stat. Seems legit.
    Don't be so salty. It's a close vote right now but clearly not an overwhelmingly significant issue.

    You still might get the change before it's all said and done.
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    Originally Posted by melanimal_old View Post
    bro Shelby Miller was one of the luckiest pitchers in baseball. Consider yourself lucky you didnt get the 4 ERA he deserved.

    Here we go.

    Why use ERA or WHIP? Let's just use everything adjusted because Mel is a *******.

    Can't wait for Mel to propose xFIP next season
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    Both stats have merit, let's just wait until we have all of the results.

    In other news, I might be looking to replace Freeman as a keeper. If you have a batter you're not keeping and are willing to trade for picks, let me know.
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    I'd rather see it kept as Wins



    I dont like change
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    Originally Posted by CheeseSteak View Post
    I'd rather see it kept as Wins



    I dont like change
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    Originally Posted by SoutheastBeast1 View Post
    Mel's head about to explode, lol
    This right here is the ONLY reason I am voting for W's

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    Originally Posted by melanimal_old View Post
    so your pitcher who is all set to get his win, clinching you the week, after he went 7 strong shut out innings... has his closer, who isnt even on your fantasy team blow the save and you lose the stat. Seems legit.
    Ya pretty much. No different in real life. Sometimes you lose games you don't deserve to and sometimes you win games you don't deserve to IE: Gustavo Chacin haha. Wins are one of the first categories stated when making an argument for the HOF. Trust me I respect QS, I am a Jays fan and lost many nights of sleep seeing all the QSs for Doc blown.

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    nah its cool, we can play with these luck stats and just set it and forget it lineups all week. Im in a dynasty Ottoneu league this year. Roto, sabr stats and an auction.
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    Originally Posted by Nodice123 View Post
    Ya pretty much. No different in real life. Sometimes you lose games you don't deserve to and sometimes you win games you don't deserve to IE: Gustavo Chacin haha. Wins are one of the first categories stated when making an argument for the HOF. Trust me I respect QS, I am a Jays fan and lost many nights of sleep seeing all the QSs for Doc blown.
    ya thats why Jim Kaat and Jack Morris are in the Hall of Fame. Oh wait, they arent.
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    Originally Posted by melanimal_old View Post
    nah its cool, we can play with these luck stats and just set it and forget it lineups all week. Im in a dynasty Ottoneu league this year. Roto, sabr stats and an auction.
    Cool story bro

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    Originally Posted by melanimal_old View Post
    nah its cool, we can play with these luck stats and just set it and forget it lineups all week. Im in a dynasty Ottoneu league this year. Roto, sabr stats and an auction.
    I didn't know Cam Newton's half brother was in our league...

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    Originally Posted by Nodice123 View Post
    I didn't know Cam Newton's half brother was in our league...
    we are both handsome and people love to hate because of our talent.
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    has steeze put up his prelim list yet?
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    my vote is for W

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    Originally Posted by TheBateman View Post
    my vote is for W
    Damn, 6-3 now. Not looking so close any more.

    Anyone else in favor of W so we can officially put this vote to rest?

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