griffey jr is the best baseball player of his era. agreed?

[jd75]

now that mcgwire,bonds,arod, sosa, sheffield ect have all been proven to use steriods griffey is the only one with legit numbers.

[NDame616]

now that mcgwire,bonds,arod, sosa, sheffield ect have all been proven to use steriods griffey is the only one with legit numbers.

Gary Sheffield is like the 47th best player in the decade.....why are you bringing up his name as possibly the best player of the decade.

And no, Griffey Jr isn't even close.

[Messiahtype]

Steroids/lack of steroids have nothing to do with legitimacy. Barry Bonds is the best player of his era. Period.

[GatorRon24]

Bonds is not close to the complete player Griffey Jr. was. Has Griffey stayed healthy Bonds would NOT be close to his numbers. Not to metion Grif was a great center fielder with a great arm.

[Grind4Mine]

Steroids/lack of steroids have nothing to do with legitimacy. Barry Bonds is the best player of his era. Period.

[jd75]

griffey was the best center fielder in the mlb for 10+
years and hit 630 hrs. if he took roids like everyone else he would have blown them out of the water. best cf in mlb for 10 years+ 630 hrs while being clean= best player in the STERIOD ERA

[NDame616]

Bonds is not close to the complete player Griffey Jr. was. Has Griffey stayed healthy Bonds would NOT be close to his numbers. Not to metion Grif was a great center fielder with a great arm.

Who the hell cares about the "complete" Griffey?

If Mark Prior stayed healthy he would be the best pitcher in baseball
If Kerry Wood stayed healthy he woudl be an ace
If Ben Sheets stayed healthy he would be one of the the best pitchers in baseball
If AJ Burnett pitches like he "can" he would be a hall of famer
If my aunt had a penis, she would be my uncle

[NDame616]

griffey was the best center fielder in the mlb for 10+
years and hit 630 hrs. if he took roids like everyone else he would have blown them out of the water. best cf in mlb for 10 years+ 630 hrs while being clean= best player in the STERIOD ERA

What 10 year period are you talking about? Griffey was one of the best players in the 90s. However, he isn't even close in the 00s.

[jd75]

Who the hell cares about the "complete" Griffey?

If Mark Prior stayed healthy he would be the best pitcher in baseball
If Kerry Wood stayed healthy he woudl be an ace
If Ben Sheets stayed healthy he would be one of the the best pitchers in baseball
If AJ Burnett pitches like he "can" he would be a hall of famer
If my aunt had a penis, she would be my uncle

he was talking about a complete player. fielding, hitting, power, contract, running, arm ect and griffey was the best all around player and didnt cheat. bomds was reat but has a pussy arm and roided

[jd75]

What 10 year period are you talking about? Griffey was one of the best players in the 90s. However, he isn't even close in the 00s.

i said era not decade

[NDame616]

he was talking about a complete player. fielding, hitting, power, contract, running, arm ect and griffey was the best all around player and didnt cheat. bomds was reat but has a pussy arm and roided

Ummmm barry bonds has 8 gold gloves and griffey has 9. So they both were great fielders.

And Barry bonds has 514 career SBs. Griffey has 184.

So Bonds was just as good of a fielder and a better baserunner.

Ans FYI: Just because you weren't caught didn't mean you didn't cheat. It means you weren't caught.

[ezmac31]

What 10 year period are you talking about? Griffey was one of the best players in the 90s. However, he isn't even close in the 00s.

you keep refuting his points but fail to offer up your nomination for best player of the era

[IraHays]

Bonds is the GOAT, face it.

We also will never know if Griffey did roids.

And lulz at Bonds not being a complete player. It's one thing to be yound to not see him play in his youth, but you could always just go look at his stats.

[matt_vizzle]

He is by far my favorite baseball player. He was just too fragile and took forever to recover and always re injured himself. That is what happens when you don't take steroids.

[Bigbri73]

Who the hell cares about the "complete" Griffey?

If Mark Prior stayed healthy he would be the best pitcher in baseball
If Kerry Wood stayed healthy he woudl be an ace
If Ben Sheets stayed healthy he would be one of the the best pitchers in baseball
If AJ Burnett pitches like he "can" he would be a hall of famer
If my aunt had a penis, she would be my uncle

are any of those actual hall of famers? u missed what hes saying dude, ken griffey is a hall of famer even with all his inuries... idk how many games he missed but to b able to put up those number is near imposible.630 home runs .912 obs. imagine the types of numbers if he was able to stay healthy?

[bbacn123]

Wrong. Greg Maddux is the best baseball player of that era (and of all time for that matter)

[jd75]

Ummmm barry bonds has 8 gold gloves and griffey has 9. So they both were great fielders.

And Barry bonds has 514 career SBs. Griffey has 184.

So Bonds was just as good of a fielder and a better baserunner.

Ans FYI: Just because you weren't caught didn't mean you didn't cheat. It means you weren't caught.

what are you talking about? he admitted to using steroids, he said he didnt know they were steroids but he used them. do you know how much better griffey would have been if he used roids? and bonds did not have a good arm ask sid bream.

[Scoundrel]

now that mcgwire,bonds,arod, sosa, sheffield ect have all been proven to use steriods griffey is the only one with legit numbers.

besides Griffey, that is a horrible list...

In no particular order;

griffey
chipper jones (yes biased lol)
Cal Ripken
Randy Johnson
Greg Maddux
Ichiro

depending on when this 'era' starts, im also going to mention ozzie smith

[Messiahtype]

Bonds is not close to the complete player Griffey Jr. was. Has Griffey stayed healthy Bonds would NOT be close to his numbers. Not to metion Grif was a great center fielder with a great arm.

You do know that Bonds has 8 gold gloves himself, right? You do know that Bonds walked more, struck out less, and stole more bases than Griffey, right? You do know that Bonds had an on base pct over .400 17 times, right? Because Griffey only did TWICE. You do know that Bonds won 3 MVPS before Griffey's "injured era", and before Bonds "steroids era" while Griffey won ONE during his own prime, right?

Yeah. Not even close.


Oh, and as far as steroids go...

Read up and learn the truth people.

http://steroids-and-baseball.com/
http://steroids-and-baseball.com/cha...baseball.shtml

[Grind4Mine]

[Grind4Mine]

did I just see Ozzie Smith? lol wut

[Maverick417]

Wrong. Greg Maddux is the best baseball player of that era (and of all time for that matter)

in b4 Ndame bbacn **** storm to insue.


and to say griff wasn't one of the top players in this era makes me question if this tool even watches baseball

[jd75]

besides Griffey, that is a horrible list...

In no particular order;

griffey
chipper jones (yes biased lol)
Cal Ripken
Randy Johnson
Greg Maddux
Ichiro

depending on when this 'era' starts, im also going to mention ozzie smith

i dont look at pitchers the same in the same catagory, chipper jones?lol. ichiro is up there and cal ripkin was a great and an ironman but not one of the top players in the era. i am talkin about guys that hit 550+ hrs, multiple all star games, mvps.

[Grind4Mine]

You do know that Bonds has 8 gold gloves himself, right? You do know that Bonds walked more, struck out less, and stole more bases than Griffey, right? You do know that Bonds had an on base pct over .400 17 times, right? Because Griffey only did TWICE. You do know that Bonds won 3 MVPS before Griffey's "injured era", and before Bonds "steroids era" while Griffey won ONE during his own prime, right?

Yeah. Not even close.


Oh, and as far as steroids go...

Read up and learn the truth people.

http://steroids-and-baseball.com/
http://steroids-and-baseball.com/cha...baseball.shtml

Stopped reading after the sentence "PED's don't enhance abilities in the skill game that is baseball"

[Senecan]

Derek Jeter people....thats all

[Scoundrel]

i dont look at pitchers the same in the same catagory, chipper jones?lol. ichiro is up there and cal ripkin was a great and an ironman but not one of the top players in the era. i am talkin about guys that hit 550+ hrs, multiple all star games, mvps.

Isnt it ironic that most to all of your list was people that used steroids?

[Messiahtype]

im also going to mention ozzie smith

??????

Ozzie Smith was a career .262 hitter, with a mediocre on base pct, and no power whatsoever. He was one of the greatest fielders of all time, but that's it. He deserves no mention as the greatest of any era.

[GorillaGenetics]

u people are retarded steroids are used in all pro sports baseball is just the sport its been outted in the most all steroids do is enhance ur natural abilities if u have no natural abilities than ur still gonna suck if u start doin da joooose and how do u know griffey never did anything

[NDame616]

you keep refuting his points but fail to offer up your nomination for best player of the era

Barry Bonds. He was also better before his HR numbers started exploding.

are any of those actual hall of famers? u missed what hes saying dude, ken griffey is a hall of famer even with all his inuries... idk how many games he missed but to b able to put up those number is near imposible.630 home runs .912 obs. imagine the types of numbers if he was able to stay healthy?

But he didn't stay healthy. Someone was saying "oh we didn't see the complete griffey" r something like that. It doesn't matter what would've happened IF he stayed healthy. Because he didn't. In 3 years he averaged like 50 games a season, and in a 5 year period he averaged like 80 games a season. I don't care what he "could've done". I care about what he did.

what are you talking about? he admitted to using steroids, he said he didnt know they were steroids but he used them. do you know how much better griffey would have been if he used roids? and bonds did not have a good arm ask sid bream.

How do you know Griffey didn't use roids? Because he wasn't caught? So, by your logic, out of the say 3000 players in baseball to play since 1985, only about 100 or so used steroids?

Just because you weren't caught, didn't mean you didn't use steroids. It means you weren't caught. Big difference.

[Messiahtype]

Stopped reading after the sentence "PED's don't enhance abilities in the skill game that is baseball"

Then stay an ignorant jackass. Doesn't matter to me.