Bodybuilding.com Information Motivation Supplementation
in:

    The Worldís #1 Bodybuilding And Fitness Forum - Save Up To 50% Off Retail Prices In Our Bodybuilding.com Store!

Reply
Results 1 to 20 of 20
  1. #1
    Registered User pvcpeterson's Avatar
    Join Date: Dec 2009
    Age: 39
    Stats: 214 lbs
    Posts: 16
    Rep Power: 0
    pvcpeterson is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    Visit pvcpeterson's BodySpace
    pvcpeterson is offline

    Tom Platz leg routine: only for steroid users?

    I have very small legs in comparison to my upper body. In the 3 months I have been lifting, my gains everywhere else have been huge...but my legs are just tiny!!

    Every other muscle group feels pumped/tired after my training, except my legs... I do a total of 11 sets for them, each set consisting of 4-6 reps (4 sets squats, 3 sets leg press, 2 sets deadlifts, 2 sets leg curls).

    I was thinking of trying Tom Platz' leg routine, BUT, it has so many sets/reps, that I'm wondering if it would be counterproductive unless I was on gear.

    Here was his routine:


    Tom Platz Squat and Leg Routine


    Squats, 8-12 sets of 5-20 reps

    Hack Squats, 5 sets of 10-15 reps

    Leg Extensions, 5-8 sets of 10-15 reps

    Lying Leg Curls, 6-10 sets of 10-15 reps

    Standing Calf Raises, 3-4 sets of 10-15 reps

    Seated Calf Raises, 3-4 sets of 10-15 reps

    Hack Machine Calf Raises, 3-4 sets of 10-15 reps

    Breaking down Tomís squat and leg workout we find that he performed and average of 21.5 sets for quads, 8 sets for hamstrings, and 10.5 sets for calves. Thatís a total of 40 sets.


    I have been having GREAT results doing only minimal sets for every other body part except legs. Would any of you more advanced lifters suggest even TRYING this routine? Or is it just begging for trouble without gear?

    Thanks all for your opinions.
    Reply With Quote

  2. #2
    Registered User grumble1's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2009
    Location: Canada
    Age: 27
    Stats: 6'0", 187 lbs
    Posts: 3,153
    Rep Power: 361
    grumble1 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) grumble1 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) grumble1 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) grumble1 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) grumble1 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) grumble1 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) grumble1 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) grumble1 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) grumble1 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) grumble1 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) grumble1 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Visit grumble1's BodySpace
    grumble1 is offline
    How much are you squatting?
    GOMAD!
    Reply With Quote

  3. #3
    I'll Rest When I'm Dead ironwill2008's Avatar
    Join Date: Feb 2008
    Location: United States
    Stats: 5'8", 193 lbs
    Posts: 61,866
    Rep Power: 133488
    ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit ironwill2008's BodySpace
    ironwill2008 is offline
    40+ sets for legs in one workout? For a natty trainee? You're not serious, right? You're joking, right?


    Let sanity prevail; here's a good basic leg routine,to be done once a week:

    A Good Basic Leg Routine
    ----------------------------------

    Barbell Squat 4 sets of 6-8 reps

    Leg Press 3x10-12

    Lunge 3x8-10

    Stiff-Leg Deadlift 3x6-8

    Leg curl 3x10-12


    Calves can be done on a separate day, with an upper-body part.

    Leg Press Calf Raise 3x10-12

    Seated Calf Raise 3x12




    BTW, the rules of this forum prohibit the mention of 'performance enhancers.' Though I'd mention that before this thread gets a lock.
    Last edited by ironwill2008; 01-13-2010 at 09:51 AM.
    No brain, no gain.

    You can't out-train bad nutrition.

    "The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon

    Ironwill Gym:
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388


    Ironwill2008 Workout Journal:
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
    Reply With Quote

  4. #4
    Loves Feeding Trolls Ironwake's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2009
    Age: 25
    Stats: 6'2", 195 lbs
    Posts: 3,208
    Rep Power: 1438
    Ironwake has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Ironwake has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Ironwake has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Ironwake has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Ironwake has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Ironwake has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Ironwake has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Ironwake has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Ironwake has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Ironwake has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Ironwake has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit Ironwake's BodySpace
    Ironwake is offline
    Originally Posted by pvcpeterson View Post
    Squats, 8-12 sets of 5-20 reps
    =O

    I'd be dead after just these, if I was squatting any decent amount of weight... Listen to Ironwill :P
    Starting Strength... Again! - http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=124491381

    6 Month Beginner Starting Strength Log - http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=118409981
    Reply With Quote

  5. #5
    Registered User jgreystoke's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2007
    Age: 61
    Stats: 5'9", 215 lbs
    Posts: 9,745
    BodyPoints: 15762
    Rep Power: 10580
    jgreystoke has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) jgreystoke has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) jgreystoke has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) jgreystoke has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) jgreystoke has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) jgreystoke has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) jgreystoke has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) jgreystoke has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) jgreystoke has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) jgreystoke has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) jgreystoke has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit jgreystoke's BodySpace
    jgreystoke is offline
    Tom Platz leg routine: only for steroid users?

    Yes.

    The volume is far too high for natural bodybuilders.

    I have the greatest respect for Platz. Here's what he could do:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjtVvYk1HWw

    Extraordinary strength and endurance and heart.

    Unlike some, I don't put down steroid users. Adults can do what they damn well like with their own bodies, so long as they don't do harm to another. Hell, gaining almost 90lbs of bodyweight to get strong, like I did with knife and fork foods, would be considered harmful by most medical authorities!

    I wouldn't use aas myself because I don't fancy my skill as an endocrinologist, and wouldn't trust any dodgy doctor either.
    Last edited by jgreystoke; 01-13-2010 at 10:10 AM.
    Reply With Quote

  6. #6
    Genetically Different adrenergic's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2008
    Location: Pompano Beach, Florida, United States
    Age: 22
    Stats: 5'5", 155 lbs
    Posts: 5,644
    Rep Power: 498
    adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Visit adrenergic's BodySpace
    adrenergic is offline
    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    40+ sets for legs in one workout? For a natty trainee? You're not serious, right? You're joking, right?


    Let sanity prevail; here's a good basic leg routine,to be done once a week:

    A Good Basic Leg Routine
    ----------------------------------

    Barbell Squat 4 sets of 6-8 reps

    Leg Press 3x10-12

    Lunge 3x8-10

    Stiff-Leg Deadlift 3x6-8

    Leg curl 3x10-12


    Calves can be done on a separate day, with an upper-body part.

    Leg Press Calf Raise 3x10-12

    Seated Calf Raise 3x12




    BTW, the rules of this forum prohibit the mention of 'performance enhancers.' Though I'd mention that before this thread gets a lock.
    Did you even read his post?
    Ex nihilo nihil fit



    [blog.Revoltfitness.com]
    Reply With Quote

  7. #7
    I'll Rest When I'm Dead ironwill2008's Avatar
    Join Date: Feb 2008
    Location: United States
    Stats: 5'8", 193 lbs
    Posts: 61,866
    Rep Power: 133488
    ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit ironwill2008's BodySpace
    ironwill2008 is offline
    Originally Posted by adrenergic View Post
    Did you even read his post?
    yep.
    No brain, no gain.

    You can't out-train bad nutrition.

    "The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon

    Ironwill Gym:
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388


    Ironwill2008 Workout Journal:
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
    Reply With Quote

  8. #8
    yo yo yo Flex500's Avatar
    Join Date: Apr 2005
    Location: Ohio
    Stats: 5'7", 240 lbs
    Posts: 10,357
    BodyPoints: 4657
    Rep Power: 10161
    Flex500 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Flex500 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Flex500 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Flex500 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Flex500 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Flex500 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Flex500 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Flex500 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Flex500 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Flex500 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Flex500 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit Flex500's BodySpace
    Flex500 is offline
    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    40+ sets for legs in one workout? For a natty trainee? You're not serious, right? You're joking, right?


    Let sanity prevail; here's a good basic leg routine,to be done once a week:

    A Good Basic Leg Routine
    ----------------------------------

    Barbell Squat 4 sets of 6-8 reps

    Leg Press 3x10-12

    Lunge 3x8-10

    Stiff-Leg Deadlift 3x6-8

    Leg curl 3x10-12


    Calves can be done on a separate day, with an upper-body part.

    Leg Press Calf Raise 3x10-12

    Seated Calf Raise 3x12




    BTW, the rules of this forum prohibit the mention of 'performance enhancers.' Though I'd mention that before this thread gets a lock.
    it doesn't even matter he's natty that is crazy for a super juicy!
    Reply With Quote

  9. #9
    I'll Rest When I'm Dead ironwill2008's Avatar
    Join Date: Feb 2008
    Location: United States
    Stats: 5'8", 193 lbs
    Posts: 61,866
    Rep Power: 133488
    ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit ironwill2008's BodySpace
    ironwill2008 is offline
    Originally Posted by Flex500 View Post
    it doesn't even matter he's natty that is crazy for a super juicy!
    Quoted For Truth. This routine is so over the top, it's a miracle that even Platz could profit from it!
    No brain, no gain.

    You can't out-train bad nutrition.

    "The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon

    Ironwill Gym:
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388


    Ironwill2008 Workout Journal:
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
    Reply With Quote

  10. #10
    Genetically Different adrenergic's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2008
    Location: Pompano Beach, Florida, United States
    Age: 22
    Stats: 5'5", 155 lbs
    Posts: 5,644
    Rep Power: 498
    adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Visit adrenergic's BodySpace
    adrenergic is offline
    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    yep.
    Oh because...you know...you countered his question about Tom Platz' routine with a routine that is pretty much what he already does and doesn't really answer his problem of having small legs.


    With that said, if you want to focus growth in the legs, you need a specialized routine. The body allocates growth where it is stimulated. If you have a balanced routine, you should have balanced growth. But here's a thought, you have used your legs all your life, correct? Well, that means they are very well trained, in a manner of speaking relative to your total training experience...3 months. Now, just because they are trained doesn't mean they have to be huge, look at distance runners. Basically, I'm saying that you should either reduce training in other parts of the body or that you should increase the workload on your legs. As well, you need to compensate in your diet for the increased workload. Just a theory.
    Ex nihilo nihil fit



    [blog.Revoltfitness.com]
    Reply With Quote

  11. #11
    I'll Rest When I'm Dead ironwill2008's Avatar
    Join Date: Feb 2008
    Location: United States
    Stats: 5'8", 193 lbs
    Posts: 61,866
    Rep Power: 133488
    ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ironwill2008 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit ironwill2008's BodySpace
    ironwill2008 is offline
    Originally Posted by adrenergic View Post
    Oh because...you know...you countered his question about Tom Platz' routine with a routine that is pretty much what he already does and doesn't really answer his problem of having small legs.
    On the contrary; I provided OP with a perfect answer to his problem, something you have yet to do.
    No brain, no gain.

    You can't out-train bad nutrition.

    "The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon

    Ironwill Gym:
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388


    Ironwill2008 Workout Journal:
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
    Reply With Quote

  12. #12
    Genetically Different adrenergic's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2008
    Location: Pompano Beach, Florida, United States
    Age: 22
    Stats: 5'5", 155 lbs
    Posts: 5,644
    Rep Power: 498
    adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) adrenergic has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Visit adrenergic's BodySpace
    adrenergic is offline
    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    On the contrary; I provided OP with a perfect answer to his problem, something you have yet to do.

    Circular logic never works.
    Ex nihilo nihil fit



    [blog.Revoltfitness.com]
    Reply With Quote

  13. #13
    You are on ignore CookAndrewB's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2009
    Location: Ohio, United States
    Stats: 5'11", 196 lbs
    Posts: 5,829
    Rep Power: 17438
    CookAndrewB has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) CookAndrewB has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) CookAndrewB has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) CookAndrewB has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) CookAndrewB has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) CookAndrewB has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) CookAndrewB has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) CookAndrewB has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) CookAndrewB has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) CookAndrewB has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) CookAndrewB has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit CookAndrewB's BodySpace
    CookAndrewB is offline
    Originally Posted by adrenergic View Post
    Circular logic never works.
    Or does it...

    The truth is that, like so many other posts here, there is so little useful information in the OP that anyone would be hard pressed to give any kind of specific (IE, helpful) advice. IW pretty much gave an answer on par with the question.

    I don't walk into a garage, ask the mechanic "How does a car go?" and expect a detailed schematic of an internal combustion engine to be his response. I'll probably get a "push the gas" type of response.

    Food for thought. As a 17 year old I wouldn't get into a pissing match with IW. The man has colon obstructions older than you
    Last edited by CookAndrewB; 01-13-2010 at 11:48 AM.
    GoRuck Challenge Journal: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=150446113

    "No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little." -Edmund Burke

    "Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also." -Marcus Aurelius
    Reply With Quote

  14. #14
    Registered User KWDreamun's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2009
    Location: United States
    Age: 52
    Stats: 5'7", 139 lbs
    Posts: 34
    Rep Power: 0
    KWDreamun is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) KWDreamun is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) KWDreamun is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) KWDreamun is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) KWDreamun is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) KWDreamun is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) KWDreamun is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) KWDreamun is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) KWDreamun is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) KWDreamun is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) KWDreamun is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500)
    Visit KWDreamun's BodySpace
    KWDreamun is offline
    Originally Posted by pvcpeterson View Post
    I have very small legs in comparison to my upper body. In the 3 months I have been lifting, my gains everywhere else have been huge...but my legs are just tiny!!

    Every other muscle group feels pumped/tired after my training, except my legs... I do a total of 11 sets for them, each set consisting of 4-6 reps (4 sets squats, 3 sets leg press, 2 sets deadlifts, 2 sets leg curls).

    I was thinking of trying Tom Platz' leg routine, BUT, it has so many sets/reps, that I'm wondering if it would be counterproductive unless I was on gear.

    Here was his routine:


    Tom Platz Squat and Leg Routine


    Squats, 8-12 sets of 5-20 reps

    Hack Squats, 5 sets of 10-15 reps

    Leg Extensions, 5-8 sets of 10-15 reps

    Lying Leg Curls, 6-10 sets of 10-15 reps

    Standing Calf Raises, 3-4 sets of 10-15 reps

    Seated Calf Raises, 3-4 sets of 10-15 reps

    Hack Machine Calf Raises, 3-4 sets of 10-15 reps

    Breaking down Tomís squat and leg workout we find that he performed and average of 21.5 sets for quads, 8 sets for hamstrings, and 10.5 sets for calves. Thatís a total of 40 sets.


    I have been having GREAT results doing only minimal sets for every other body part except legs. Would any of you more advanced lifters suggest even TRYING this routine? Or is it just begging for trouble without gear?

    Thanks all for your opinions.
    The mistake I see most folks making doing squats is trying to go to heavy and only going down 1/4 of the way. To get big legs, you have to get on down w/ the squat and presses. I see guys in the gym that think they are squatting 275 - 315 or so and they do have small legs because they are moving maybe 4 inches... I would not recomedn Tom's routine. Cut it in 1/2 and try it in a few months. Good luck
    Reply With Quote

  15. #15
    Registered User pvcpeterson's Avatar
    Join Date: Dec 2009
    Age: 39
    Stats: 214 lbs
    Posts: 16
    Rep Power: 0
    pvcpeterson is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    Visit pvcpeterson's BodySpace
    pvcpeterson is offline
    Originally Posted by KWDreamun View Post
    The mistake I see most folks making doing squats is trying to go to heavy and only going down 1/4 of the way. To get big legs, you have to get on down w/ the squat and presses. I see guys in the gym that think they are squatting 275 - 315 or so and they do have small legs because they are moving maybe 4 inches... I would not recomedn Tom's routine. Cut it in 1/2 and try it in a few months. Good luck

    Thanks all for your replies.

    In answer to a few things brought up:

    I started off squatting a pathetic 95 pounds (including bar). I'm now doing 235, full squats, never partials.

    Leg press, I'm at about 600 for 4-6 full reps.

    It may appear to be a stupid question, asking if natural guys can train with high voulme-- I seriously didn't know if SUCH a high volume as Platz' workout is ridiculous or not... I know some guys who for example will do 5 or 6 sets of 50+ reps for calves and it has worked for them.

    A powerlifter I know at my gym does squats (among other olympic lifts,) 3 times a week for tons of sets.

    I would love to be strong, but I'm mainly wanting muscle hypertrophy for my legs. (I know, you've gotta be relatively strong to get some size.)

    So apparently, such a huge number of sets is not good. With my current routine, i have developed a lot of strength (for me) very quickly. BUT, my legs never feel pumped or sore afterward, like I'm not taxing them enough.

    I appreciate your guys' responses. Yes, even though I am 35, I am just starting to get into lifting seriously. So, there is no need to feel as if you are being condescending to me, when I don't know much to begin with.

    I may simply increase the rep range from 4-6 to 8-10, that in itself may give my muscles the extra attention they need. Sorry for the late reply, I just got home from work (3-11 pm). Now I'm off to lift...it's Back and Biceps day.

    Thanks again, and I appreciate any more advice you guys have to offer!
    Reply With Quote

  16. #16
    Registered User GuyJin's Avatar
    Join Date: Apr 2008
    Location: Japan
    Age: 52
    Stats: 5'10", 200 lbs
    Posts: 14,114
    Rep Power: 40403
    GuyJin has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) GuyJin has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) GuyJin has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) GuyJin has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) GuyJin has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) GuyJin has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) GuyJin has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) GuyJin has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) GuyJin has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) GuyJin has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) GuyJin has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit GuyJin's BodySpace
    GuyJin is offline
    Originally Posted by pvcpeterson View Post
    Thanks all for your replies.

    In answer to a few things brought up:

    I started off squatting a pathetic 95 pounds (including bar). I'm now doing 235, full squats, never partials.

    Leg press, I'm at about 600 for 4-6 full reps.

    It may appear to be a stupid question, asking if natural guys can train with high voulme-- I seriously didn't know if SUCH a high volume as Platz' workout is ridiculous or not... I know some guys who for example will do 5 or 6 sets of 50+ reps for calves and it has worked for them.

    A powerlifter I know at my gym does squats (among other olympic lifts,) 3 times a week for tons of sets.

    I would love to be strong, but I'm mainly wanting muscle hypertrophy for my legs. (I know, you've gotta be relatively strong to get some size.)

    So apparently, such a huge number of sets is not good. With my current routine, i have developed a lot of strength (for me) very quickly. BUT, my legs never feel pumped or sore afterward, like I'm not taxing them enough.

    I appreciate your guys' responses. Yes, even though I am 35, I am just starting to get into lifting seriously. So, there is no need to feel as if you are being condescending to me, when I don't know much to begin with.

    I may simply increase the rep range from 4-6 to 8-10, that in itself may give my muscles the extra attention they need. Sorry for the late reply, I just got home from work (3-11 pm). Now I'm off to lift...it's Back and Biceps day.

    Thanks again, and I appreciate any more advice you guys have to offer!
    ---------------------

    You've made pretty decent gains so far; keep it up. What you suggested--increasing the reps--would more than likely be enough to stimulate some more growth in your legs. Not necessarily increasing the sets. Tom Platz was a genetic freak, he was "supplementing" and he had (probably) better-than-average recovery, even without his special supps. Added to that, he started off as a powerlifter and did pretty well at it before he turned to bodybuilding, so he already had his strength base right there, juice or no juice.

    Since I don't know what other exercises you're doing for legs, what I'd suggest is the following:

    Keep squats in the 5-8 range for whatever number of sets you're doing now. Add in leg presses for the number of sets you're currently doing, but up the reps to 15 on the high end and no lower than 8 on the low end. For hamstrings, keep the reps between 8 and 10 for leg curls, and 6-8 for stiff-legged deadlifts. That would be more than enough, I think, to trigger some new growth. The trick, if there is one, is to add sets and weight and reps slowly and progressively, then back off for a bit. Only do what you can recover from--and only you'll know when you're recovering or not.

    Unless you're juicing up and have genetics supreme, doing a routine like Platz's would more likely put you in the hospital than get you onstage or make you the envy of your gym.

    Just my opinions...
    "When you're born, you give up one percent of your life. When you die, that's the last one percent. Make the other ninety-eight percent count."--Threadweaver.

    "A choice to be made, a price to be paid."--The Tower.

    "One hundred percent unfiltered awesome."--Death Bytes.

    Check out my links to Death Bytes at DevineDestinies.com/Amazon.com and The Tower at Untreedreads.com/Amazon.com. Twisted and Lindsay Versus the Marauders are available from RegalCrest.biz and Amazon.com.
    Reply With Quote

  17. #17
    Chicks and Camaros Nick1971's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2008
    Location: Houston, Texas, United States
    Age: 43
    Stats: 5'9", 175 lbs
    Posts: 3,825
    Rep Power: 295
    Nick1971 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Nick1971 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Nick1971 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Nick1971 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Nick1971 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Nick1971 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Nick1971 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Nick1971 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Nick1971 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Nick1971 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Nick1971 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Visit Nick1971's BodySpace
    Nick1971 is offline
    Three things: 1) That's not too much volume for a serious bodybuilder - four leg exercises and four calf exercises. 2) Platz did a lot of higher-rep sets. 3) Platz didn't just do that one routine, over time. That's just one routine he probably did, out of countless others.

    If you are able to consistently able to perform that routine over time, who are we to tell you that you can't do that? We just don't know. But if you want to put a focus on what you consider to be a weak point in your physique, by all means do so.
    --- Nick ---
    Reply With Quote

  18. #18
    Registered User kidchaosaz's Avatar
    Join Date: Dec 2009
    Age: 25
    Stats: 5'9", 163 lbs
    Posts: 1
    Rep Power: 0
    kidchaosaz is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    Visit kidchaosaz's BodySpace
    kidchaosaz is offline
    Natural bodybuilders can handle the same things as steroid users. You have to your nutrition down and good supplementation but i train every body part twice a week and my leg day has at least as much volume as the tom platz workout, when im feeling frisky and things click i do a good amount more than that. I am all natural and I never cease growing on this split with this much volume.
    Reply With Quote

  19. #19
    Registered User adonirvana's Avatar
    Join Date: Apr 2010
    Age: 25
    Stats: 5'6", 147 lbs
    Posts: 2
    Rep Power: 0
    adonirvana is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    Visit adonirvana's BodySpace
    adonirvana is offline
    iits true that steroids or non steroids user cants handle the same training routine , the thing is that its up to the body and how much he can take , for me i didnt try this much of sets on one day maybe two days a week for legs will give a good resuls however keeping the growing of the upper body should be the same as lower body but a 40 sets !! for non steroid users will get you no where , so i sugest for non steroid users never puch that much or the muscle will lose the ability of growing and u'll never have tom platz legs , and good luck guys .
    Reply With Quote

  20. #20
    Registered User roybatty6's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2011
    Location: Australia
    Age: 40
    Posts: 1,935
    Rep Power: 143
    roybatty6 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) roybatty6 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) roybatty6 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) roybatty6 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) roybatty6 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) roybatty6 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) roybatty6 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) roybatty6 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) roybatty6 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) roybatty6 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) roybatty6 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Visit roybatty6's BodySpace
    roybatty6 is offline
    Far too many sets.

    There are a few in another thread that beleive in 'high volume', they probably don't make many gains and
    look the same year after year.
    -80 kgs in 15 months.
    -100 kgs goal (75kgs bodyweight)

    Abs on a skinny guy is like a fatgirl with big tits, it doesn't count.
    Reply With Quote

Reply

Similar Threads

  1. Tom Platz' Leg Routine
    By Buff_Ass in forum Teen Bodybuilding
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: 06-23-2010, 07:37 PM
  2. Question for steroid users
    By xtremebulk in forum Supplements
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 06-10-2006, 08:27 PM
  3. New Leg Routine Needed For Tomorrow!
    By bballjoe12 in forum Workout Programs
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 03-13-2006, 07:44 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts

Home Store Products Careers Help Contact Us Terms of Use Checkout