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    Yeah seriously, don't go into a job just for money or stability, you'll hate it.

    My uncle is/was an accountant but now he's a VP for a large company and he loves his job.

    My other uncle is a CA and has his own home accounting business, he barely works and makes good money. I think he likes it mainly because of it's flexibility though.
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    I'm wrapping up mechanical engineering this term and my girlfriend is wrapping up accounting with a job at one of the big 4 accouting firms. Engineers start with a much higher salary, as accountants need a CA (in Canada anyway) before they get some good pay raises. Accountants have a higher top out on average, but it is a totally different lifestyle. Engineering is quite tough while in school, but out in the work force most engineers put in the 37.5 hours a week and go home. I would not describe a career in engineer as a stressful job (some exceptions). Accounting seems to only get more stressful as you go along. When accountants graduate, most work full time and then also go to CA school full time. They also put in mad hours of unpaid overtime, especially during tax season. I've never heard of uncompensated overtime in engineering.

    An important thing to remember when considering different careers is lifestyle. Obviously, lawyers make a lot more than both of these careers, but most lawyers work way more than 37.5 hours a week. I'm sure many lawyers put in 50% more time a week than an engineer. But they can buy more things. However, time can be more valuable. How much of your life are you willing to sell to a company for something you don't fully enjoy? I will agree with you that you don't need to fully love every minute of your job, and you don't need to make your favorite hobby a full time job, but you still must enjoy a lot of it because it is your life.
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    Originally Posted by PlasticTrees View Post
    Yeah seriously, don't go into a job just for money or stability, you'll hate it.

    My uncle is/was an accountant but now he's a VP for a large company and he loves his job.

    My other uncle is a CA and has his own home accounting business, he barely works and makes good money. I think he likes it mainly because of it's flexibility though.
    CA's are only flexible in off seasons. In busy season they work like 12 hours a day.

    or if you're trying to say that your uncle has the CA designation but isn't actually working as one right now, that's different.
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    Don't pick Eng as your undergrad. itll most likely **** your GPA up. so if you end up no liking it and decide to change career at some point then you're very limited.

    1. Pick easy undergrad that YOU enjoy (psycolohy, nutrition, music etc)
    2. work for some years then get mba, JD, MD
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    Originally Posted by terzter View Post
    ^^^^^^^
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    Originally Posted by Jizmeister View Post
    Fellow Calgary brah, u at uni? Which one?
    UofC, now MRU, 2yrs+, then back to UofC. Phys Ed transfer! .

    u?

    btw what happened in that girl advice thread you made? What are you going to do?
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    Originally Posted by AltCtrlDel View Post
    Don't pick Eng as your undergrad. itll most likely **** your GPA up. so if you end up no liking it and decide to change career at some point then you're very limited.

    1. Pick easy undergrad that YOU enjoy (psycolohy, nutrition, music etc)
    2. work for some years then get mba, JD, MD
    I would agree that if you are planning on moving on to those degrees, engineering would be a waste of effort and you will look like a noob in comparison to a person with a GPA from an easier degree.
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    Originally Posted by terzter View Post
    UofC, now MRU, 2yrs+, then back to UofC. Phys Ed transfer! .

    u?

    btw what happened in that girl advice thread you made? What are you going to do?
    I'm looking into MRU and then possibly transfering to UofC. Is it good? I wanna do Finance.

    And as for the girl thread, if the chance comes about I'll hit it
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    Originally Posted by Jyeatbvg View Post
    CA's are only flexible in off seasons. In busy season they work like 12 hours a day.

    or if you're trying to say that your uncle has the CA designation but isn't actually working as one right now, that's different.
    Nah he still works as one but tax season is relatively short. It's a fair tradeoff i'd say, a few months of hard work for a few easier months.
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    med school > all

    and id go with accounting .. easier than engineering ...
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    OP, how are you paying for going back to school?

    Originally Posted by AltCtrlDel View Post
    Don't pick Eng as your undergrad. itll most likely **** your GPA up. so if you end up no liking it and decide to change career at some point then you're very limited.

    1. Pick easy undergrad that YOU enjoy (psycolohy, nutrition, music etc)
    2. work for some years then get mba, JD, MD
    but if someone wants to do engineering, dont they need the undergrad to do it?

    Originally Posted by Loftarasa View Post
    I would agree that if you are planning on moving on to those degrees, engineering would be a waste of effort and you will look like a noob in comparison to a person with a GPA from an easier degree.
    wouldnt someone with a worse GPA in a harder field seem more respectable than a person with a high GPA in an easy major?
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    Originally Posted by Jizmeister View Post
    I'm looking into MRU and then possibly transfering to UofC. Is it good? I wanna do Finance.

    And as for the girl thread, if the chance comes about I'll hit it
    Haskayne is hard to get into after highschool. you gotta maintain a high GPA. check the requirements
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    Originally Posted by terzter View Post
    Haskayne is hard to get into after highschool. you gotta maintain a high GPA. check the requirements
    Would it make it easier to do 2 years at MRU and transfer? MRU doesn't do a Bachelor in Finance, they do a Bachelor in Applied Financial Services? Can you transfer to UofC from that?
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    Originally Posted by Jizmeister View Post
    Would it make it easier to do 2 years at MRU and transfer? MRU doesn't do a Bachelor in Finance, they do a Bachelor in Applied Financial Services? Can you transfer to UofC from that?
    Yea check w/ them for specifics. I dont wanna give you the wrong info!
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    Accounting imo.

    I'm an Accounting major, 4th year, and I can tell you accounting is the way to go. I think Engineering is a profession with a high risk of being outsourced. I was considering software engineering myself as a major until I talked to my cousin who has his P Eng and he recommended against it. Same with one of my friends who works as an Electrical Engineer and actually came from India. People from India and China are coming over and taking so many jobs in the engineering field. It pays the most out of uni for sure, but in the long run I'd be a bit cautious of job stability and opportunities.

    Accounting is very useful, and with globalization happening at such a fast pace, having business knowledge will be very helpful. Not necessarily the technical aspect of it, such as preparing a tax return, but management and leadership exp you gain from working in a public practice firm for example. I myself plan to go into management after graduation. Low risk of being outsourced, and there will be a huge demand for skilled managers in the future imo.

    Anyways this is just my opinion, I'm not bashing engineering. Engineering is a very tough degree to obtain and I respect that. I was going through the Accounting vs Engineering dilemma myself and the above explanation is why I chose accounting.

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    Originally Posted by LiveOnce View Post
    I used to say the same thing. Wait until you get into something and you hate it, then you will be a believer.

    This would apply moreso to accounting than anything i can think of also.
    Dislike my current job and don't like the path I'm on which is why I'm looking into new stuff.

    Originally Posted by eazy e 123 View Post
    if ur doing it just for the money then stay away from medicine, you won't hack it (srs)
    It was kinda ajoke. I have doctors in my family, I know better than to go down that path lol.

    Originally Posted by PlasticTrees View Post
    I'd rather be an accountant (and I love math).. can't stand physics
    You don't do much math as an accountant.

    Originally Posted by pat19 View Post
    lol i hope i'll never have to describe my career, the job i'll go to every day for the rest of my life, as "i don't hate it too much."
    Agreed.

    Originally Posted by Dave P View Post
    Petrol Engineer ftw.
    Too volatile I think?

    Originally Posted by MugenLee View Post
    I'm right where you're at OP. I'm an Accounting major, with 1.5 years to go.
    I do know a lot of accountants of course, but they don't "all hate it." It's just working with numbers. Either you're cut out for it or not.

    I don't think there's a problem with accounting, there's a problem with the people that do it. It's a respectable job, people know there's money waiting for you, they don't know what else to pick, so they just do it. Then they get into the workforce, be an accountant for 5 years, then declare, "ACCOUNTING SUCKS! WOE IS ME!" Wtf, I guarantee you they never job shadowed an accountant to actually figure out what they'd be doing. They were just lured in by the salary.

    Make sure you like it. I do.
    Interesting. I hated financial accounting. Maybe that's a sign?
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    As an accountant I can tell you, you will be bored to tears. You'll have potential to make bank but only if you want to be further bored. Study for CPA (year of your life), work at an accounting firm putting in 70+ hours doing boring work, then get promoted and continue to do boring stuff with about the same hours.

    If you go the Governmental route the hours are better (pay obviously is less), but it's still boring as hell. I don't know that I would recommend accounting to anyone unless they are absolutely focused on working tons and hating their life.
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    Originally Posted by Gordon Bombay View Post
    Have you thought about what kind of engineering you'd enjoy the most? If not, look into materials science engineering. With the nanotechnology field booming it's a good investment.
    I haven't even thought about it. Sounds very interesting though.

    Originally Posted by Loftarasa View Post
    I'm wrapping up mechanical engineering this term and my girlfriend is wrapping up accounting with a job at one of the big 4 accouting firms. Engineers start with a much higher salary, as accountants need a CA (in Canada anyway) before they get some good pay raises. Accountants have a higher top out on average, but it is a totally different lifestyle. Engineering is quite tough while in school, but out in the work force most engineers put in the 37.5 hours a week and go home. I would not describe a career in engineer as a stressful job (some exceptions). Accounting seems to only get more stressful as you go along. When accountants graduate, most work full time and then also go to CA school full time. They also put in mad hours of unpaid overtime, especially during tax season. I've never heard of uncompensated overtime in engineering.

    An important thing to remember when considering different careers is lifestyle. Obviously, lawyers make a lot more than both of these careers, but most lawyers work way more than 37.5 hours a week. I'm sure many lawyers put in 50% more time a week than an engineer. But they can buy more things. However, time can be more valuable. How much of your life are you willing to sell to a company for something you don't fully enjoy? I will agree with you that you don't need to fully love every minute of your job, and you don't need to make your favorite hobby a full time job, but you still must enjoy a lot of it because it is your life.
    A good lifestyle has become much more important to me. It used to be money when I was an idiot. I'd much rather be able to work 40 hours a week, be able to reach 100k+ one day, while still living an active, healthy lifestyle.

    Originally Posted by PhenoTerminate View Post
    Misc can't make the right choice for you.
    No but they can help.

    Originally Posted by ToningCh1ck View Post
    OP, how are you paying for going back to school?


    but if someone wants to do engineering, dont they need the undergrad to do it?


    wouldnt someone with a worse GPA in a harder field seem more respectable than a person with a high GPA in an easy major?
    Ill most likely have to take out loans and work alongside classes, which is why accounting seems more reasonable. I can definitely work while studying that and less years = less money. I can probably get some money for local Masters in Accounting programs.

    There are some programs that you can go right into a masters in engineering.

    Originally Posted by LordBroski View Post
    Accounting imo.

    I'm an Accounting major, 4th year, and I can tell you accounting is the way to go. I think Engineering is a profession with a high risk of being outsourced. I was considering software engineering myself as a major until I talked to my cousin who has his P Eng and he recommended against it. Same with one of my friends who works as an Electrical Engineer and actually came from India. People from India and China are coming over and taking so many jobs in the engineering field. It pays the most out of uni for sure, but in the long run I'd be a bit cautious of job stability and opportunities.

    Accounting is very useful, and with globalization happening at such a fast pace, having business knowledge will be very helpful. Not necessarily the technical aspect of it, such as preparing a tax return, but management and leadership exp you gain from working in a public practice firm for example. I myself plan to go into management after graduation. Low risk of being outsourced, and there will be a huge demand for skilled managers in the future imo.

    Anyways this is just my opinion, I'm not bashing engineering. Engineering is a very tough degree to obtain and I respect that. I was going through the Accounting vs Engineering dilemma myself and the above explanation is why I chose accounting.

    Hope this helps. PM me if you need anymore info regarding Accounting.
    Good post. But when it comes to outsourcing I'm not sure I'm that worried. I think both fields have a risk of outsourcing. This also brings up the point that I you excel in any field you'll be valuable. I think I could perform well as an accountant just because I've seen some real idiots do well, become CPAs, etc. I've also seen some very smart kids shine in accounting. If I were to go into engineering I imagine I wouldn't be stellar because I don't view myself as a vet smart person. I am personable though,which I think could be a great skill to have in engineering, since so many kids in engineering are so introverted.

    Originally Posted by kaisermeeks View Post
    As an accountant I can tell you, you will be bored to tears. You'll have potential to make bank but only if you want to be further bored. Study for CPA (year of your life), work at an accounting firm putting in 70+ hours doing boring work, then get promoted and continue to do boring stuff with about the same hours.

    If you go the Governmental route the hours are better (pay obviously is less), but it's still boring as hell. I don't know that I would recommend accounting to anyone unless they are absolutely focused on working tons and hating their life.
    That sounds awful. Making big bucks is always a plus though.
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    Engineering for sure. Business and accounting are the majors that all the engineering student dropouts go into, eventually that market will be flooded and it will become very hard to get a job. I garuntee the job market for chemical and electrical engineering will never be over saturated. Bioengineering already is, civil is getting pretty close. Not sure about mechanical, there are always tons and tons of students in there, at the university I attended there were like 150 mechE grads compared to 30 chemE grads.

    Awesome thing about engineering right now, is that in the next 10-15 years there is going to be a huge shortage because all of the baby boomers will be retiring. This will force employers to promote the engineers of our generation to management positions, so we'll all be making hella bank in our early 30's.
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    Originally Posted by mriches View Post
    Engineering for sure. Business and accounting are the majors that all the engineering student dropouts go into, eventually that market will be flooded and it will become very hard to get a job. I garuntee the job market for chemical and electrical engineering will never be over saturated. Bioengineering already is, civil is getting pretty close. Not sure about mechanical, there are always tons and tons of students in there, at the university I attended there were like 150 mechE grads compared to 30 chemE grads.

    Awesome thing about engineering right now, is that in the next 10-15 years there is going to be a huge shortage because all of the baby boomers will be retiring. This will force employers to promote the engineers of our generation to management positions, so we'll all be making hella bank in our early 30's.
    Are you done with your engineering degree? What path did you choose? And honestly how good would you say you have to be in math and the sciences to succeed?

    edit: Repped a bunch of you so far. Will try to get everyone
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    Originally Posted by mriches View Post
    Engineering for sure. Business and accounting are the majors that all the engineering student dropouts go into.
    You know whats funny?


    I'd say 50% of the MBA students at my school are Engineers.
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    Originally Posted by jp8811 View Post
    I haven't even thought about it. Sounds very interesting though.



    A good lifestyle has become much more important to me. It used to be money when I was an idiot. I'd much rather be able to work 40 hours a week, be able to reach 100k+ one day, while still living an active, healthy lifestyle.



    No but they can help.


    Ill most likely have to take out loans and work alongside classes, which is why accounting seems more reasonable. I can definitely work while studying that and less years = less money. I can probably get some money for local Masters in Accounting programs.

    There are some programs that you can go right into a masters in engineering.



    Good post. But when it comes to outsourcing I'm not sure I'm that worried. I think both fields have a risk of outsourcing. This also brings up the point that I you excel in any field you'll be valuable. I think I could perform well as an accountant just because I've seen some real idiots do well, become CPAs, etc. I've also seen some very smart kids shine in accounting. If I were to go into engineering I imagine I wouldn't be stellar because I don't view myself as a vet smart person. I am personable though,which I think could be a great skill to have in engineering, since so many kids in engineering are so introverted.



    That sounds awful. Making big bucks is always a plus though.
    Honestly, find that middle ground where you make a confortable living and can STAND work.


    Would you invest all your money into one stock? No, this is the same thing.
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    You know whats funny?


    I'd say 50% of the MBA students at my school are Engineers.
    It's useful for upgrading into management.
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