Chaos and Pain on Training

[fatdaddy67]

An interview with Jamie Lewis, aka Chaos and Pain.

http://muscleandbrawn.com/interview-...n-jamie-lewis/

Prepare to have some sacred cows tipped.

[azzuk23]

haha c+p is ****ing awesome. Nice post

[kman025]

great interview grim.

i like how C&P is a beast, actually lifts (and dominates at it), and then can also back up everything he says with facts becuase hes apparently is a ****ing genous

[kitarpyar]

An interview with Jamie Lewis, aka Chaos and Pain.

http://muscleandbrawn.com/interview-...n-jamie-lewis/

Prepare to have some sacred cows tipped.

Nice read. That guy is f***ing hilarious and knows his s***.


















































In b4 the crowd crying "overtraining".

[NightTrain71]

good read actually pretty funny!! good job Grim

[Jippo]

Jamie truly is an awesome guy who unlike most internet 'gurus' actually has the physique and strength to back up his methods. And he's genuinely happy to help if you have questions regarding training and nutrition. I like lots of others were stuck in the bodypart split rut and since using his training methods around 4 months ago i haven't been leaner or stronger.

His advice for beginners in that article are spot on but as usual i doubt whether any will follow it due to the lack of curls and isolation etc etc.
Overall a good read, solidifying the wealth of information in his blog.

[NIguy]

I like CP, he knows his ****.

[grim83]

Thanks everybody, this was really fun to do, and thanks FD for editing it down for me

[matt297]

Great interview. Full of lulz. And C+P has a great philosophy. This one cracked me up

"Mentzer and the HIT Jedi clearly hate training, and it shows. He was a fat crackhead and dropped dead at an early age, possibly due to an allergic reaction to the sweatsuits he wore in every pic I?ve seen of him."

Thats going on the sig.

Cracked up on this one too

"He's [Joe Weider] led millions of lifters astray for years, and the damage that he?s done to strength sports, and the gym industry in particular, is irreperable. I hope he gets cancer of the aids, bleeds out of his ****ing eyes, and his offspring are covered in boils."

[Jippo]

He certainly has a hilariously unique way of conveying hatred haha.

[glwanabe]

Loved it, and his attitude.

[Mrjipetto]

Great article, regarding his advice for training beginners what set/rep scheme would you recommend? I've read his blog and he is clearly a fan of 1-3 reps so would something like 5x3 on the lifts be good and then high rep on the bodyweight exercises?

[kman025]

Great article, regarding his advice for training beginners what set/rep scheme would you recommend? I've read his blog and he is clearly a fan of 1-3 reps so would something like 5x3 on the lifts be good and then high rep on the bodyweight exercises?

http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/201...ve-got-it.html here is his new template for his program, but im not sure if its "for beginners"

[dopamine72]

Great read, I have been following his program for around 2 months now and I am the strongest and biggest I have ever been.

[grim83]

Great article, regarding his advice for training beginners what set/rep scheme would you recommend? I've read his blog and he is clearly a fan of 1-3 reps so would something like 5x3 on the lifts be good and then high rep on the bodyweight exercises?

yes, but if you read further he also discusses how a beginner shouldn't train at lower reps like that, at least not if they are a true green beginner, but you would do best to shoot him an email and ask him yourself

[kman025]

bumping this good article by grim

[fatdaddy67]

Jamie truly is an awesome guy who unlike most internet 'gurus' actually has the physique and strength to back up his methods. And he's genuinely happy to help if you have questions regarding training and nutrition. I like lots of others were stuck in the bodypart split rut and since using his training methods around 4 months ago i haven't been leaner or stronger.

His advice for beginners in that article are spot on but as usual i doubt whether any will follow it due to the lack of curls and isolation etc etc.
Overall a good read, solidifying the wealth of information in his blog.

Thumbs up to this post.

[Miketoc]

Good interview

[SuffolkPunch]

Awesome - I always laughed at his posts but I had no idea...

[kman025]

bumping this up for the grimster and his hard work

[fatdaddy67]

bumping this up for the grimster and his hard work

Grim, you da man.

[grim83]

Thanks everybody for the support, next up is a C&P how to article that will be reviewed by the man himself, but first i need to play with the training

[CaptainGorgeous]

Thanks everybody for the support, next up is a C&P how to article that will be reviewed by the man himself, but first i need to play with the training

Great interview.

But I think he already posted a template on his blog, so a how-to might be redundant. Good work nonetheless.

[TexAss]

Entertaining.

[dopamine72]

I don't mean to get into a flame war, but grim, I remember a post about 4 months ago that was regarding the Chaos and Pain program, and I remember you saying It would lead to overtraining. Have you changed your mind now?

[grim83]

I don't mean to get into a flame war, but grim, I remember a post about 4 months ago that was regarding the Chaos and Pain program, and I remember you saying It would lead to overtraining. Have you changed your mind now?

I dont recall this, mainly because i didn't really become aware of the style until recently, but its possible i did say it, and yes some of my opinions have changed, you have to remember this is a constant learning experience, if you stop learning you will stop improving, and i have changed my opinion on some things over the last year or so, texass has probably noticed this lol

[SuffolkPunch]

I don't mean to get into a flame war, but grim, I remember a post about 4 months ago that was regarding the Chaos and Pain program, and I remember you saying It would lead to overtraining. Have you changed your mind now?

He is trying to educate people about their work capacity - it can be increased just like strength can. Sure, for someone who is used to 3 days a week on a relatively low volume program, to jump to 6 days a week is going to beat them down. But you can work up to it just like he has.

[grim83]

He is trying to educate people about their work capacity - it can be increased just like strength can. Sure, for someone who is used to 3 days a week on a relatively low volume program, to jump to 6 days a week is going to beat them down. But you can work up to it just like he has.

Not only that, but if you are using something like the bear on light days then its more like an active recovery session anyway

[TexAss]

and i have changed my opinion on some things over the last year or so, texass has probably noticed this lol

lulz

I was actually thinking about that very thing yesterday.

[grim83]

lulz

I was actually thinking about that very thing yesterday.

Yes its funny to think when i started here we were at eachothers throats and now we usually wind up arguing the same case