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    Strongest Pro Bodybuilder Ever?

    Now that Johnnie Jackson has been declared "World's Strongest Bodybuilder", everyone thinks he or Stan Efferding are the 2 strongest in the IFBB. Now, just because Ben White lost the challenge it doesn't mean he should be written off-I think Johnnie would be pretty sore that Ben benches more than him and stated even on the reverse bench press he's stronger than Johnnie.

    Firstly, I want to know,why is everybody saying Johnnie will lose?

    Stan efferding:

    821 lbs Squat
    606 Bench
    793 lbs Deadlift

    That's 2221lb total

    Johnnie Jackson:

    Squat (personal best): 825lbs
    523 Bench
    815lb Deadlift

    That's 2163 total

    That's really not much of a difference-especially since Johnnie will be going for it this year-he has that drive and mentality

    Otherwise,who do you think is the strongest bodybuilder around?

    I think it is between these 2:



    Ronnie "The King Coleman"
    The following lifts were several years back and while he was carbing down and using less gear for it was nearer contest time and apparently tests are random

    Benching with 200lb DUMBBELLS for reps
    495-500lb Bench Press for reps
    800lb Squat 1RM
    800-805lb Deadlift 1RM
    2250-2300lbs Leg Press for reps
    Overhead presses with 315lb for 12-15 reps
    Overhead Presses with 150-160 lbers for reps
    T Bar Rows until the bar bends
    Barbell Rows EASILY over 400lbs for REPS
    Shrugs with over 700lbs for reps

    I think that considering he was losing his carbs and was using less gear precontest, that he could do the above RAW in the off-season. Apparently he did a handful of sets before these max outs too.

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    Who cares if he's in the red, who cares if he uses bodyfortress, and he has a valid point about Jackson vs. Efferding. They're both pretty close and anybody can win when they have their showdown. Some of you guys need to chill out.
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    i think Ronnie is strongest, man is just animal
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    Originally Posted by Delirium1337 View Post
    i think Ronnie is strongest, man is just animal
    this forum couldn't wait to know your unproved opinion.
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    Stan efferding:

    821 lbs Squat
    606 Bench
    793 lbs Deadlift

    That's 2221lb total

    Johnnie Jackson:

    Squat (personal best): 825lbs
    523 Bench
    815lb Deadlift
    The only thing you forgot is that Johnnie did this in full equippment in different meets.
    Stan Efferding is the strongest raw powerlifter in the U.S. and maybe on earth (just KK matches his greatness). Comparing Johnnie Jackson to Stan Efferding strength wise is just ridiculous. lol at Stan benching almost 100lb more than Johnnie WITH a bench shirt

    Edit: Stan has an offical 825lb deadlift, it's not fair to take the deadlift he did with a torn hamstring and without a belt.
    This thread is just pointless, comparing a powerlifter and bodybuilder strength wise (yes I know Stan is an IFBB pro) is just stupid. Next time you could bring up Brian Siders and ask if he is stronger than Johnnie.
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    Originally Posted by zmcdole View Post
    Who cares if he's in the red, who cares if he uses bodyfortress, and he has a valid point about Jackson vs. Efferding. They're both pretty close and anybody can win when they have their showdown. Some of you guys need to chill out.
    No. Johnie would be lucky to total in single ply gear what stan totals raw. They are not close... the only thing that is close is jonhies deadlift... and thats only 1/3rd of this discussion.
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    Originally Posted by Newbtime View Post
    No. Johnie would be lucky to total in single ply gear what stan totals raw. They are not close... the only thing that is close is jonhies deadlift... and thats only 1/3rd of this discussion.
    I was unaware that the lifts quoted above were done equipped.
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    I was unaware that the lifts quoted above were done equipped.
    Yeah all the lifts are in single ply. He benched 523lb with a Katana which easily adds around 40-60lb on your bench (even without being really experienced).
    The Squat is also for sure equipped. However, I don't know what he exactly used but a normal squat suit gives you around 80lb.
    so there is ~ a 300lb difference between Stan Efferding and Johnnie.
    ....

    Edit: Let's say 250lb to be fair, still it's a HUGE difference.
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    Originally Posted by Newbtime View Post
    No. Johnie would be lucky to total in single ply gear what stan totals raw. They are not close... the only thing that is close is jonhies deadlift... and thats only 1/3rd of this discussion.
    i am not really into this powerlifting thing
    can someone explain whats difference

    i guess its easier to lift equiped than raw but thats just common sence, what is real difference or mechanism?
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    Originally Posted by Delirium1337 View Post
    i am not really into this powerlifting thing
    can someone explain whats difference

    i guess its easier to lift equiped than raw but thats just common sence, what is real difference or mechanism?
    Equipped means knee wraps, bench shirts, squat suits. These items give you more spring off of the bottom and essentially take some of the load. For instance, the bench shirt throws your shoulders forward and provides and elastic spring once you lower the bar and touch your chest therefore making the lift easier. Essentially the same thing goes for the other things mentioned.
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    Originally Posted by zmcdole View Post
    Equipped means knee wraps, bench shirts, squat suits. These items give you more spring off of the bottom and essentially take some of the load. For instance, the bench shirt throws your shoulders forward and provides and elastic spring once you lower the bar and touch your chest therefore making the lift easier. Essentially the same thing goes for the other things mentioned.
    thanks ! do they use this equipment only in powerlifting events or its common in other events like olympic lifting?
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    Originally Posted by Delirium1337 View Post
    thanks ! do they use this equipment only in powerlifting events or its common in other events like olympic lifting?
    Olympic is entirely raw I believe. As far as other powerlifting events, some are raw and some are equipped.
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    Originally Posted by FullROM View Post
    In before Supercows or the-craig say Phil heath, they seem to think he is best at everything.
    ive said this before, these types of fans make me want phil heath to lose, they aren't helping him at all by being his fan, they need to be a lot more realistic about it, he is no coleman.
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    Originally Posted by zmcdole View Post
    Who cares if he's in the red, who cares if he uses bodyfortress, and he has a valid point about Jackson vs. Efferding. They're both pretty close and anybody can win when they have their showdown. Some of you guys need to chill out.
    it was a valid point untill he threw in jack lalanne
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    Originally Posted by FullROM View Post
    In before Supercows or the-craig say Phil heath, they seem to think he is best at everything.
    Lmfao, agreed!

    Originally Posted by BiggerTommorow View Post
    ive said this before, these types of fans make me want phil heath to lose, they aren't helping him at all by being his fan, they need to be a lot more realistic about it, he is no coleman.
    Also agreed. I was a huge fan after 2008 and his placing, but somehow it has been diminished by his fan boys.
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    didnt ronnie dl 805 for 2 reps 5 weeks out?
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    Originally Posted by ronki23 View Post

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    Aged 60, Jack swam from Alcatraz Island to Fisherman's Wharf. Again he was handcuffed, but this time he was also shackled and towed a 1,000-pound boat.

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    For his 70th Birthday,Jack fought strong winds and currents as he swam 1.5 miles while towing 70 boats with 70 people (even if it's 70 in total it's impressive for a 70 year old) from the Queen's Way Bridge in the Long Beach Harbor to the Queen Mary.
    lul wut? I honestly burst out laughing when I read this.
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    lol, nice quality vid. Love the bouncing tits, this was the show about, because his lifting form is crap. Here is another vid with a great MILF

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    didnt ronnie dl 805 for 2 reps 5 weeks out?
    1) It was 800
    2) He used straps + bounced the second.

    Still he is easily stronger than Johnnie + the greatest bodybuilder who ever walked on earth.
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    Originally Posted by lolwtf3 View Post
    The only thing you forgot is that Johnnie did this in full equippment in different meets.
    Stan Efferding is the strongest raw powerlifter in the U.S. and maybe on earth (just KK matches his greatness). Comparing Johnnie Jackson to Stan Efferding strength wise is just ridiculous. lol at Stan benching almost 100lb more than Johnnie WITH a bench shirt
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    Originally Posted by NaturalLoco View Post
    Andy bolton would munch him
    What does that have to do with the Strongest Pro Bodybuilder?
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    Originally Posted by TheStreetKing View Post
    What does that have to do with the Strongest Pro Bodybuilder?
    apparently its surprising that the strongest deadlifter in the world is stronger then a bodybuilder
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