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    Over 65: muscle gain?

    Who has experienced muscle gain--size and strength--at over age 65? I'm starting to workout after some past health problems, and I'm anxious to get strength and hardness back; but I'm wondering if any gain in muscle size happens with older people. I haven't started the typical shrink and wrinkle process yet! Actually I am still pretty hard and with good definition. My basic stats: 6' , 160#. Very little fat.

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    Hello again, Piperman....

    Good to see you here, I think you'll enjoy this forum.

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    Piperman, welcome aboard. At 61 1/2 I am oneof the older, old farts here. In the last two and a half years I managed to go from 148 lbs to 205 and have seen my strength shoot through the roof. While not a pud I am more the powerlifter and not a BBer like most here aspire to. There are guys here up into their 70s, eg look up George76's threads. Read through the various threads, do some searches and ask some questions. You'll find lots of helpful info here.
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    Re: Over 65: muscle gain?

    Originally posted by piperman
    Who has experienced muscle gain--size and strength--at over age 65?

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    Welcome Piperman: Well I am not 65 yet, but I am 57 and that is well into the time they start talking about hard to lose fat - lean muscle mass loss and slow metabalism. Diet and exercise can stop that process and infact reverse it. In the last six months I have lost 50#'s of body fat and gained some where around 15#'s of lean muscle mass. I believe that at 65 you can gain Lean Mass, you just need to workout and eat right and age does not matter.
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    Thanks! You are all most encouraging. I guess from here it's a matter of seriously getting to work on it and seeing what happens.

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    Anything is possible Piper..
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    Re: Re: Over 65: muscle gain?

    Originally posted by TwoWalks
    \ In the last six months I have lost 50#'s of body fat and gained some where around 15#'s of lean muscle mass. I believe that at 65 you can gain Lean Mass, you just need to workout and eat right and age does not matter. [/B]
    Do you think that for someone who does not gain weight easily and has very little body fat that muscle mass can be achieved? I can understand that someone who has lost 50--maybe 100--pounds would have developed considerable muscle just to handle that weight, and that the muscle would certainly look good once the fat had been lost. (I'm not questioning your muscle mass gain, TwoWalks, just posing a general observation.)

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    Re: Re: Re: Over 65: muscle gain?

    Originally posted by piperman
    Do you think that for someone who does not gain weight easily and has very little body fat that muscle mass can be achieved? I can understand that someone who has lost 50--maybe 100--pounds would have developed considerable muscle just to handle that weight, and that the muscle would certainly look good once the fat had been lost. (I'm not questioning your muscle mass gain, TwoWalks, just posing a general observation.)

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    Piperman, my answer to your question as a whole is "Yes I do". As far as a person that loses 50#'s of fat having X amount of muscle to carry the load, that is pretty general but basically true. That would have been the 150#'s of original muscle mass that I had. The muscle gain would be new additional mass.

    If a person is really a hard gainer then I still think the answer is true. Metabalism + activity level subracted from calories consumed = 0, then no gains no losses. When you increase the calories an additional amount even a hard gainer will experience mass gain - the difference at that point becomes more a matter of how fast, not really abililty to gain.

    I feel it still gets back to the same thing of the proper diet and workout based on genetics and goals.
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    Thanks, TwoWalks. I will have to work carefully at diet so as to eat just the things that promote muscle gain. At my age, the stomach rebels at too much food beyond what I generally eat, so I suppose that high protein and carb foods are the best (I use a protein supplement, too, along with vitamins).

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    Piperman, most of the guys here have done the opposite of what you want to do. They have slimmed down,added lean muscle mass, and then added the strength and definition that was their ultimate goal. You are in the same boat I was on New Years day 2001 when I arrived back in the US. At 148 lbs I could run like the wind and never had even 9% body fat. I needed to change my diet adding protein and carbs and switching to 6 meals a day. I started doing two protein shakes a day one in the morning after my workout and again about two hours before hitting the sack. On the workout level I had to cut back on the number of sets and reps I was doing and increase the amount of weight I was using. By doing 5 sets of 5 reps with a good three minute break in between I started to add strength and muscle mass. Instead of whole body workouts I did only one body part per day, over 4 days per week. In my case I did legs, chest, back/shoulders, and arms. I added abs twice a week to the shorter days. No smoking,reduced drinking and increased rest at night or even a nap during the afternoon all helped as well. Nothing fancy, just a very basic agenda, that and a lot of persistence and patience. After a year I started to do four cycles of 1AD with even more calories consumed. That took me over the top in weight goals and way over my wildest dreams for strength gains. Everyone at the gym and home in my family told me I had been crazy to try such a thing at my age. That just fueled my fire that much more. Good luck you can do it too!
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    Dutchman, you are a real booster! Thanks for the words of encouragement. I'll take your training tips and diet as a guide.
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