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Thread: Growth Stimulus Training (GST)
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09-28-2010, 11:19 AM #4441
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09-28-2010, 11:29 AM #4442
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Nice work on that bench. The thing with spotters is you basically have to tell them to let you fail before lending a hand. Tell them not to touch the bar until you yell at them to grab it.
Your rate of weight gain is perfect. That would be about 1/2lb per week, which is going to be primarily muscle. Nice job!
Thanks for the workout description. I know this post is irrelevant right now, because you've sinced picked up the book and read through your program design from me, but you did well nonetheless.
Thanks again Kevin!
Yep, you're definitely up past 205 now. 225 is a great spot to bump it to, congrats on the increase! Smart move on the deload as well. If you're thinking of deloading, that is usually a sign that you should.
SLDL is straight leg deadlift. RDL is romanian deadlift. I don't recommend straight leg deadlifts, but I do recommend romanian deadlifts. Here is a video of the RDL:
You need to follow the 1RM calculation procedure for GST. You can estimate without proper procedure if you'd like, but the program will work faster if you have a clear idea of where to start.
If I was going to go strictly off your current information, I'd say 120lbs would be a good place to set your incline 1RM.trainingwithryan.substack.com
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09-28-2010, 11:36 AM #4443
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09-28-2010, 11:41 AM #4444
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Order a foam roller off of eBay and use it. Make sure it is roughly 36 inches long and of medium density. Also, there are vids floating around on youtube which show some quality hip flexor, glute, hamstring, quad, piriformis, and calf stretches. Study the vids and perform each stretch 2-3 times for 30 second holds each time.
See Bold.
I think things look great for your first time putting together a GST setup! Really nice work.
See Bold.trainingwithryan.substack.com
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09-28-2010, 11:51 AM #4445Home Journal: Me vs. Myself @.....http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=125942203
Levels and goals...........
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09-28-2010, 11:53 AM #4446
Ryan
Just a quick update on the diet. I am hammering out the goals that you set for me and am down to 179 pounds. Have almost not cheated at all over the last weeks. Should I stay the course or adjust (the diet set up for me was for me at 185 and 14%)?
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09-28-2010, 11:53 AM #4447
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No.
Can't complain about that pullup strength progression! You need to start adding weight now, ok?
I don't believe you own the eBook, which would be a good thing for you to consider owning. The book will tell you all you need to know
You want to use the average of your 3rd and 4th micro 1RMs to figure your new 1RM.
Supplement lifts progress on a set guideline as well. I have a feeling that most people move up when they feel ready, but there is a guideline in the book as well. Simply make progressions when you are ready. If you are hitting the majority of your reps with one weight, move up 5-10 pounds the next time to use that same supplement lift for the same amount of sets and reps.
Always reaching failure on your supplement lifts is also a mistake, keep that in mind. Save the 'balls to the wall' mentality for your core lifts.
I'm noticing that you went too heavy on some lifts. Your core 1RM should be 120lbs, putting you around 80lbs for your micro 1 core sets. You also didn't get enough reps on your flat BB pressing supplement sets. Remember, choose a weight that lands you within the desired rep range!
Great 'advices!'
36 inches is the best length IMO.trainingwithryan.substack.com
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09-28-2010, 11:55 AM #4448
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09-28-2010, 12:00 PM #4449
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Post Vegas Progress
I kept diet in mind during the trip by eating my regular breakfast foods and not pigging out when eating out. I think it worked, as I see no negative progression. I actually see progress from week 8 to week 9.
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09-28-2010, 12:11 PM #4450
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Something along these general lines will work:
45 by 10
95 by 6
135 by 3
175 by 1-2
215 by 1-2
230 by 1 (Optional)
240 by Working Set 1, 2, 3
You're never going to get through this thread, lol, it grows as you read it......seriously. Save yourself the time and frustration by picking up a copy of the eBook. You'll get a program designed for you with your copy, so you're all taken care. Something to consider!
Thanks for the GST join up! I appreciate it.
See this everybody?! Not all nutrition plans have to be boring and tasteless.trainingwithryan.substack.com
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09-28-2010, 03:17 PM #4451
Macro 3 - Press #2
Core Lift - Bench Press @70% 1RM
6x195
6x195
12x195 AMRAP
Supps were Incline BP, DB Presses, Tricep Pressdowns and Decline Crunches
Notes: About one hour exactly. Last Macro at 195 pounds on the Bench, my amrap was 14 reps at a bodyweight of 187. Today I am at a bodyweight of 179, so the -2 reps is expected. Incline was 10 pounds lighter than last month with the same reps. The DB Presses were damn sweet! I'm a swole up animal right now. Still melting and holding strength!
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Levels and goals...........
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09-28-2010, 03:30 PM #4452
ebook
Where can I get a copy of the ebook? Also you said that it comes with a diet plan that tailors to the individual's goals? I need to get this book. Thanks for lookin at my plan. I think this program is really working for me.
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09-28-2010, 03:32 PM #4453
http://www.2020-wellness.com/
worth every pennyMy GST Journal: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=547852463
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09-28-2010, 04:31 PM #4454
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09-28-2010, 05:58 PM #4455
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Pm'd! www.2020-wellness.com/gst for a direct link to the GST site.
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09-28-2010, 06:09 PM #4456
Thanks for postin that up Champ. I'm going to look at his website tonight.
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09-29-2010, 01:04 AM #4457
LMFAO... They're only 11 inches
I'll check it out, so far what I'm doin now hasn't failed me but it's almost time for a change up!
thanks for that reply!
Were you watching your diet and stuff (countin cals?)?
Does anyone else have similar results...?Last edited by beefcake66; 09-29-2010 at 04:11 AM.
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Log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=163012481
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09-29-2010, 04:31 AM #4458
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Search the forum for GST. You'll find pages of results and journals. Also, check the testimonials page at www.2020-wellness.com/gst for some participant write ups.
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09-29-2010, 04:36 AM #4459BluePrint Believer!
Log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=163012481
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09-29-2010, 04:44 AM #4460
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The forum will be your best bet then. The bottom line is that the program has impressed everyone who has used it, and that isn't a bull**** statement either.
The systematic core lift progressions, wise exercise selections, varying target rep/set schemes for the supplement lifts, live and always running support network, and my care and concern for all GST participants make this program special and worthwhile.
I'm relentless when it comes to making people see results on this program, you can count on that.trainingwithryan.substack.com
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09-29-2010, 05:11 AM #4461
[QUOTE=beefcake66;554396113]thanks for that reply!
Were you watching your diet and stuff (countin cals?)?
[QUOTE]
I am counting calories. My calorie goal everyday is 4100(500 above maintenance) calories so I have to eat some junk food(pizza) to reach that number, making it a dirty bulk.
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09-29-2010, 05:43 AM #4462
I'm following my own take of HST training at the moment (which was actually an accident... I just made up what I wanted to do). 3 days on, 1 day off, repeat. Have it split legs, chest & shoulders, then back (with deads). Low volume (only 1-2 working sets). So I'm in the gym 5-6 days a week and I like that (and I do believe I'm seeing results). I'm also on a big cut (nearly 1000 cal deficit).
I'm planning to bulk as soon as I get to my goal BF% (or minimum weight I'll allow myself to be). Not a hardgainer (but I do lack testosterone haha).
Think this would work well for me?
Many women on your program?
Ahh, a calorie is a calorie
And you're gaining weight fine now, since that first month? Or just recomping do you think??BluePrint Believer!
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09-29-2010, 05:57 AM #4463
Here are my One Rep Max numbers
Squats
225 Start GST
250 End of 1st Macro
262 End of 2nd Macro
270 End of 3rd Macro
287 End of 4th Macro
295 End of 5th Macro
310 End of 6th Macro
Deadlifts
245 Start GST
275 End of 1st Macro
294 End of 2nd Macro
305 End of 3rd Macro
320 End of 4th Macro
325 End of 5th Macro
340 End of 6th Macro
Bent Over Barbell Rows
150 End of 2nd Macro
172 End of 3rd Macro
187 End of 4th Macro
196 End of 5th Macro
205 End of 6th Macro
Flat Bench
215 Start of 4th Macro
230 End of 4th Macro
235 End of 5th Macro
240 End of 6th Macro
Here is my journal in case you want a look.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=122342291
I have more definition all over and I have put on about 15lbs. A lot of that is fat and my definition has increased. The confidence this program gives you is just as valuable as the increased strength and size. I havent gotten bored with it yet after 7 months. Still look forward to every training day.Go Fishin'. The Fish Shall Provide.
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09-29-2010, 05:58 AM #4464
Any other Swedes here on this forum?
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09-29-2010, 06:00 AM #4465
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09-29-2010, 07:08 AM #4466
As for cutting on GST. I started at 195 pounds and am at 178 as of this morning. All numbers over the last three months are in my journal. You can see how I have added weight to certain lifts, while merley holding strength in others.
Seeing that you are posting your bodyweight progression in your signature line, the info in my journal may interest you.Home Journal: Me vs. Myself @.....http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=125942203
Levels and goals...........
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09-29-2010, 07:15 AM #4467
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09-29-2010, 10:24 AM #4468
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See bold. Your program looks like a great bare bones GST setup, no doubt about that. Exercise selection that you've chosen is solid, and you have a grasp on how the program works.
Great first post!
See Bold.
Awesome news! The deadlift is definitely something to get good at. It adds overall thickness and strength to your body. Don't let it slip out of your program and you'll see continuing progress from it.
See Bold.
See Bold. Glad to have you around btw!trainingwithryan.substack.com
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09-29-2010, 10:26 AM #4469
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09-29-2010, 12:53 PM #4470
Log:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...6272873&page=2
2nd macro 3rd micro
Amrap weightxreps (this macro - previous macro):
benchpress 47.5x8 - 45x10
squats 72.5x11 - 67,5x9
rows 45x10 - 40x12
deadlift 76x15 - 72x13
Good progress on squats/deadlift, not so awesome on bench/rows. Interesting to see how much I'll bench tommorow
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