PH with focuses on strength increase and minimal shutdown. I'd run a nolva pct. I don't care about gaining mass or losing fat etc. I know most of the strength PHs generally have huge mass increases and shut you down like a mofo. Any advice? Is there perhaps a precursor to anavar that is available in PH/clone form?
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12-31-2009, 11:35 AM #1i eat babies for protein.
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PH Strength Increase + Minimal Shutdown
NEW GOAL(s):
Regain my strength.
Put on 5 lbs of muscle.
Gain better overall fitness (strength, endurance, muscle)
"don't give up, the beginning is always the hardest."
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12-31-2009, 11:37 AM #2Registered User
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Epistane always gives me insane strength gains and its very dry. Never really had a problem with shutdown on it like I have with other PH's.Originally Posted by DieHollywoodDie
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12-31-2009, 11:37 AM #3Registered User
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http://tunedsports.com/category/designer-steroids/Originally Posted by DieHollywoodDie
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12-31-2009, 11:43 AM #4i eat babies for protein.
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not sure what that meant. that was listing p-plex and tren which have wet mass gains and lots of shutdown...Originally Posted by Guitarguru9909
NEW GOAL(s):
Regain my strength.
Put on 5 lbs of muscle.
Gain better overall fitness (strength, endurance, muscle)
"don't give up, the beginning is always the hardest."
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12-31-2009, 11:53 AM #5Registered User
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epistane is the best imo. if you are making a scale of phs with results vs sides. Although epistane has been known to cuase shutdown in many, but then again results of h drol cuasing shut down in some has been known as well.
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12-31-2009, 12:18 PM #6Registered User
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Just about any steroid should help to increase strength. The minimal shutdown of HPTA is a different story but is going to be dose dependent to a degree. Perhaps 10mg of a pheraplex clone will allow for good strength increases without as much suppression. In regards to concerns of mass, well simply limit caloric intake and it won't be an issue. Maybe try 400mg of bold as many claim it's quite mild. Hopefully there's minimal shutdown and yet still provides a good strength increase.
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12-31-2009, 12:44 PM #7in10city stalker
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interrested in this one also
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12-31-2009, 12:49 PM #8Registered User
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I'm in week 3 of 4(maybe 5) of my E-Stane (Havoc Clone) cycle and only real sides are back pumps so far. The boys are still large and in charge and libido hasn't changed. Strength has been amazing this week. PRs everyday.
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