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    yet another..Keep Cutting or Bulking?

    Ectomorph.

    5 foot 9, weight 180 (started off at 140)

    Keeping Bulking (2 more months)

    Or start Cutting now?

    My lifts are not all the impressive (max flat bench 215, squat 275, bicep curl 120), and it obviously shows so I wondering if I should keep bulking and get my bench up to about 230 max or if I should just cut and take what I have.
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    IMHO, keep bulking, hard. ditch the bicep work. Where are you DL numbers? Military presses? 40 lb's is good progress. how long did that take? Eat clean, eat alot, train hard, sleep alot. Keep adding weight to your lifts, even if it's fractional plates.
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    My military press is about 140, havn't hit deadlifts yet (I keep injuring myself when I do them). I do every other large compound exercise though.

    I have been seriously lifting for about 4 months now. Progress has been really, really, really slow. With a good diet and consistent training my bench probably increases 5 lbs every three weeks. I consider myself a true hardgainer.

    My bench press when I First started was 65. Not kidding.
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    I would also reccommend you to bulk! There's no need for a cut. As mentioned before eat clean, work hard, lift heavy and have fun while doing it!
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    Sweet, Bulk it is.

    Hoping to get my bench up to 235 by the end of my bulk..!
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    Originally Posted by psychosylocibin View Post
    Sweet, Bulk it is.

    Hoping to get my bench up to 235 by the end of my bulk..!
    Make sure you eat clean though, because your bf is a bit high so clean bulk is the way to go.
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    I agree, clean bulk, and maybe increase your cardio a bit to shed some fat while you put on muscle. Keep up the good work!
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    I tried a clean bulk a while back (and by clean bulk I mean maintaining around the same weight or increasing my weight a pound every 2 weeks or so), but I never gained strength. I only started gaining strength when increased my caloric intake to about 3500 a day from 2500.
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    Clean Bulk
    and watch your calorie intake
    eat clean and train hard
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    Originally Posted by psychosylocibin View Post
    I tried a clean bulk a while back (and by clean bulk I mean maintaining around the same weight or increasing my weight a pound every 2 weeks or so), but I never gained strength. I only started gaining strength when increased my caloric intake to about 3500 a day from 2500.
    You know your body best, so if upping the calories pretty high is what works for you, do that for sure. If you're gaining stregth then you're gaining muscle, and once you're ready to cut you'll have something to show for it
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    I don't understand. It doesn't look like you're gaining any muscularity. Are u hitting the gym hard or just eating a lot?
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    it really looks like a lot of fat man, I think you are doing something wrong, I'd re-evaluate, just my two cents
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    Keep bulking as clean as possible.
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    Originally Posted by Jakelab06 View Post
    it really looks like a lot of fat man, I think you are doing something wrong, I'd re-evaluate, just my two cents
    Nah, I push myself at the gym and change my workouts. Trust me, sometimes I have to back off because I over train myself. I need to eat like I do in order to put on strength. If I don't reach a certain calorie threshhold, I do not gain strength. The negative side effect is that I gain fat.


    My lack of musculature is more related to my body type. It is very hard for me to gain definition, it always has been. my muscles are ALWAYS sore for 2-3 days after a workout (except for Biceps), and I wait a week for recovery for each group (except abs). Genetically, I Am probably on the bottom 5% percent for inherent musculature in the GENERAL POPULATION (not just bodybuilders). What you see in those pictures is what the average person can accomplish in about 3 months but took me 3 years. I wish I had a picture of my before I worked out to prove this. It took my a long long time and a lot of work to even get to what you see there. For those of your mesomorphs out there, don't take it for granted.
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    If it's hard for u to gain definition, why would you want to keep bulking? Unless you are a pro at this you need to lean bulk. It is not easy to lean down after a huge bulk. Like the other guy said I'd reevaluate. Don't listen to the bulk happy guys. A lot of the times they call it a bulk when in reality they are just gaining weight and do not know how to lean down. I see guys who are on so called bulks year round.
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    your body fat does seem a bit high .. are you following a decent routine?

    Clean bulk.
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    Originally Posted by fmarotte View Post
    Make sure you eat clean though, because your bf is a bit high so clean bulk is the way to go.
    clean or not clean, if he eats over hes going to gain fat. i swear some people do not understand how nutrition works. you cant eat clean and still get "fat". ffs
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