***Knife Thread***

[jafomofo]

^^I totally read that as you took a hair from your wife's bush.....

Just picked up a Gerber bone saw and a Gerber Profile fixed blade for hunting. $15 and $25, respectively.

http://www.gerbergear.com/Hunting/Kn...Knife_22-41795

http://www.gerbergear.com/Hunting/Gear/E-Z-Saw_22-48397

I have the profile. Its a real nice knife. Lemme see if I can find a pic.

[OBrien33]

Tell me about the ESEE and Ontario 3 inch fixed blade knives. The rat or the ESEE.

Which one and who had the best price with a sheath that I can attract to my belt?

Thanks

[jafomofo]

Tell me about the ESEE and Ontario 3 inch fixed blade knives. The rat or the ESEE.

Which one and who had the best price with a sheath that I can attract to my belt?

Thanks

the ontario RAT 3 is the original knife made by ontario and designed by the guys at randals adventure and training. They worked together on a few knives then the RAT guys decided to go a different route and make their own knife company and that is esee knives.

Ontario still makes the RAT knives and they are nice. The knock on them is that their production quality isn't on par with esee which is I think what caused the split. Ontario also doesn't have the same warranty and personalized service as esee. As someone who had an issues with an ontario made knife I can tell you that their customer service is effectively non-existent. You can also get the RAT knives in both 1095 and D2 I think.

Esee makes a knife with a similar or the same design, they have the 3 and the 3-mil. You can get the knife with micarta or g10 handles. You can get the knife in a few different colors. The esee knives come with a vastly superior sheath system. Its a kydex sheath with an attached molle back and you get a boot clip. The ontario sheath is nylon crap iirc. You can attach the esee3 kydex sheath to your belt with the boot clip or you could use molle locks attached to the sheath which a lot of people do.

Other things to note and what sells a lot of people on esee is that they have a no questions asked warranty. You can interact with the owners of esee any time you want and they are pretty straight forward folks from everything that I have seen.

tl:dr
Both good knives. Ontario is cheaper, the esee comes with extras and a way better waranty.

the knife connection has competitive prices on esee. the ontario 3 you could get from a bunch of sources but not sure who is the cheapest.

[sloop]

Slightly on topic: I have the Rat 1 and a Rat II folding knives and love them both. I think they are excellent value for the price and the AUS-8 seems pretty decent compared to other AUS-8 I've used (SOG) previously. Im sure the fixed blades are just as nice.

[darkninja67]

I want a DOC for Christmas, I think the Misc should chip in and get me one.

[OBrien33]

the ontario RAT 3 is the original knife made by ontario and designed by the guys at randals adventure and training. They worked together on a few knives then the RAT guys decided to go a different route and make their own knife company and that is esee knives.

Ontario still makes the RAT knives and they are nice. The knock on them is that their production quality isn't on par with esee which is I think what caused the split. Ontario also doesn't have the same warranty and personalized service as esee. As someone who had an issues with an ontario made knife I can tell you that their customer service is effectively non-existent. You can also get the RAT knives in both 1095 and D2 I think.

Esee makes a knife with a similar or the same design, they have the 3 and the 3-mil. You can get the knife with micarta or g10 handles. You can get the knife in a few different colors. The esee knives come with a vastly superior sheath system. Its a kydex sheath with an attached molle back and you get a boot clip. The ontario sheath is nylon crap iirc. You can attach the esee3 kydex sheath to your belt with the boot clip or you could use molle locks attached to the sheath which a lot of people do.

Other things to note and what sells a lot of people on esee is that they have a no questions asked warranty. You can interact with the owners of esee any time you want and they are pretty straight forward folks from everything that I have seen.

tl:dr
Both good knives. Ontario is cheaper, the esee comes with extras and a way better waranty.

the knife connection has competitive prices on esee. the ontario 3 you could get from a bunch of sources but not sure who is the cheapest.

Read the whole thing. Thank you for the post. I now know which one will be on my list to get in the next week or so.

Thanks again.

[darkninja67]

Thinking of giving out a couple of knives to some friends for Christmas. Anything good for around $30? I think the Cryo might be on the list.

[BryantTheBear]

Read the whole thing. Thank you for the post. I now know which one will be on my list to get in the next week or so.

Thanks again.

he did a supurb job. only thing he didnt mention is esee4>3

[BryantTheBear]

Thinking of giving out a couple of knives to some friends for Christmas. Anything good for around $30? I think the Cryo might be on the list.

ill take a cryo or a cryo2 if youre gonna be cheap about it

[darkninja67]

ill take a cryo or a cryo2 if youre gonna be cheap about it

yeah I will need a DOC from you first

[sloop]

Anyone pre-order the ZT 0566 yet?

http://www.bladehq.com/item--Zero-To...6-Knife--15192

Looks like a smaller version of the 0560, but 5.3oz seems a bit chunky for EDC purposes. :\

[darkninja67]

Anyone pre-order the ZT 0566 yet?

http://www.bladehq.com/item--Zero-To...6-Knife--15192

Looks like a smaller version of the 0560, but 5.3oz seems a bit chunky for EDC purposes. :\

5.3 is heavy? you a little girl?

tempted to neg for awaring me of a new knife.

[sloop]

5.3 is heavy? you a little girl?

tempted to neg for awaring me of a new knife.

My normal carry ranges from 1.2 - 2.7 ounces.

Come at me bro

[darkninja67]

My normal carry ranges from 1.2 - 2.7 ounces.

Come at me bro

you carry this?

http://www.rei.com/product/660002/sn...titanium-spork

[jafomofo]

Anyone pre-order the ZT 0566 yet?

http://www.bladehq.com/item--Zero-To...6-Knife--15192

Looks like a smaller version of the 0560, but 5.3oz seems a bit chunky for EDC purposes. :\

It also spring assisted, the 560 isn't. Its going to be a real nice knife for sure. I think I might sell the 561 and get that, technically the 561 is illegal in some of the municipalities around me.

[darkninja67]

It also spring assisted, the 560 isn't. Its going to be a real nice knife for sure. I think I might sell the 561 and get that, technically the 561 is illegal in some of the municipalities around me.

you can make it into a manual right? just remove the torsion bar

[hxa]

Foursevens>All other flashlight companies

My Quark Mini123 died after ~3 years. I loved that little flashlight.

[sloop]

It also spring assisted, the 560 isn't. Its going to be a real nice knife for sure. I think I might sell the 561 and get that, technically the 561 is illegal in some of the municipalities around me.

Good point, it is a flipper. I dont know how I feel about flippers. I had the Cryo and I sort of liked it, but never really loved it. I've played with the Southard in a store once and fell in love, and I carried a SOG Twitch II daily for 3 years and really loved it.

[jafomofo]

you can make it into a manual right? just remove the torsion bar

I have heard you can but I haven't done so myself. I'd actually be curious how much the torsion bar is involved with limiting blade play and the locking mechanism of the blade when closed. Probably none on both accounts but I don't know for sure.

re:sloop
flippers are about as good as an assisted opening knife with just a little practive. You have to get used to depressing the thumbstud on the 561 down to get the pressure to open the knife but once you get that down its mechanism slides it open to lock very efficiently. That said, with the exception of places that prohibit assisted knives, i'm not sure why you wouldn't want the assisted open.

[darkninja67]

jafomofo, I was just thinking how it would affect the detent of the knife.
I kind of like assisted by closing the blade is hard at times.

[sloop]

I have heard you can but I haven't done so myself. I'd actually be curious how much the torsion bar is involved with limiting blade play and the locking mechanism of the blade when closed. Probably none on both accounts but I don't know for sure.

re:sloop
flippers are about as good as an assisted opening knife with just a little practive. You have to get used to depressing the thumbstud on the 561 down to get the pressure to open the knife but once you get that down its mechanism slides it open to lock very efficiently. That said, with the exception of places that prohibit assisted knives, i'm not sure why you wouldn't want the assisted open.

I like assisted opening, my Kershaw Blur is a great example of this.

Im just not sold on the little flipper "tag" sticking out on the side. The tag on my Twitch II was small but the one on my Cryo was large and had rough edges.

[OBrien33]

he did a supurb job. only thing he didnt mention is esee4>3

For EDC the 3 would work better. The four may be better for my hunting/fishing bag I take almost everywhere with me.

I am also looking for an assisted opener that won't break the back like a ZT 300

My SOG trident just ain't what I'm looking for.

[sloop]

....
I am also looking for an assisted opener that won't break the back like a ZT 300

...

Kershaw Blur? I have the Blur with S30V and really dig it. That sucker shoots open so fast and effortlessly.

Or how about a Benchmade Barrage?

[OBrien33]

Kershaw Blur? I have the Blur with S30V and really dig it. That sucker shoots open so fast and effortlessly.

Or how about a Benchmade Barrage?

Will look into them. The one thing I love about the SOG is the low profile/no profile it has in my back pocket

[OBrien33]

If anyone has had time with the gerber 06 FAST let me know how it is. They look large compared to my last one. It was a FOX MD predator 2 from italy.

[sloop]

Will look into them. The one thing I love about the SOG is the low profile/no profile it has in my back pocket

I think the Blur would be up your alley then. The Barrage is a bit chunky, but the Blur is slim and low profile.

[darkninja67]

carried my Spyderco Manix 2 XL yesterday, I am not digging how hard it is to deploy. Might try that zip tie trick. It is nowhere near as nice as a Benchmade Axis lock IMO. Just too stiff.

[sloop]

carried my Spyderco Manix 2 XL yesterday, I am not digging how hard it is to deploy. Might try that zip tie trick. It is nowhere near as nice as a Benchmade Axis lock IMO. Just too stiff.

Can you adjust the pivot screw a half turn?

[darkninja67]

Can you adjust the pivot screw a half turn?

Possibly, have not looked at the pivot yet. thanks for the idea though. Knife is sharp as fuk though.

[sloop]

Have my sights set on a Benchmade 940 now.

It's a..... it's a thing of beauty!