Im 6'3'' 265 in good shape
legs measure 29"
I leg press 650 for 3 sets or 12 easy
But cant squat ****!
My form is spot on, keep my back arched, push my heels through the floor, ass out, legs little outside shoulders and toes pointed slightly out, while trying to keep my knees behind my toes when I go all the way down to the ground. I feel a good deep burn in my thighs and glutes mostly, a little in my calves.
My current sets from my last workout
225x10
255x8
255x7
I see skinny mofos in there ripping 315 like its nothing.
What body part is lagging that is causing the specific motion of squats to be weak?
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Thread: why am I so weak as squats?
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12-18-2009, 01:57 PM #1
why am I so weak as squats?
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12-18-2009, 01:58 PM #2
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12-18-2009, 02:14 PM #4
Agreed, squats use more than just your legs. If you favour isolation splits, then your lower back and obliques might be a limiting factor.
Also, the squat will get better as your neural patterns and technique improves.
Last, the leg press (45 degree press) transfers about half of its weight into the floor, so the actual weight you're moving in the leg press is about 315. Squats follow a vertical line, so you're squatting the full 255.GOMAD!
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12-18-2009, 02:52 PM #5
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12-21-2009, 01:36 PM #16No brain, no gain.
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12-21-2009, 01:38 PM #17
I don't like doing back squats anymore. I used to do them and the most I got up to was like 295 for 4 and never even went that deep. If I do them usually I'm dabbling around 12 reps for 225.
Now I just do leg presses and FRONT squats, and my legs have never looked better. With the leg press you can play around with your foot positioning, and doing close stance 20 reps is crazy. And front squats are just awesome.
Honestly, I don't think I'll ever get back into back squatting. I just don't like the way they feel. I enjoy front squats so much more because not only do they seem more challenging, they feel more physiologically sound. I don't like the feeling of being squished under the bar from back squats.Last edited by LatinoMusculito; 12-21-2009 at 01:41 PM.
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12-21-2009, 01:41 PM #18
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12-21-2009, 01:53 PM #19
Two things have emerged here: Squat more i.e. practice makes perfect--and push the lower-back work i.e. deadlifts. I found that when I pushed deads higher my squat would always jump up a bit more. Not earth-shattering, but steady gains. Read Greg Zulak's **** years ago and he said the same thing; pretty much anyone who's had trouble with squats will tell you that once their lower back got stronger they could squat more. If you can't do regular deads or sumo deads, then do good mornings with perfect form. They work very well for increasing the squat, too.
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12-21-2009, 02:05 PM #20
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How long have you been squatting?
It's hard to know too much from this without seeing you squat.
Hmmm, I'll refrain. Nevermind.
You really need to post a video. But from what you've said, it sounds like you aren't using your hams or hips at all. When I squat heavy, I can feel power coming from driving my hips forward after I'm out of the hole. It's hard to tell, but from what you've said, you're mostly using your quads only.Qualifying for long drive contest with 328 yard drive
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12-21-2009, 11:05 PM #21
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12-21-2009, 11:17 PM #24
because he doesnt like the feeling of being squished he needs to do knitting? jesus some of the squat nazis are getting ridiculous. squatting is great but its just not going to work for some people.
front squats and leg press is my routine now, and my legs are looking better than they ever did with squats as my main movement.
OP, taller guys tend to have issues with squats. front squats and leg press are pretty good substitutes if you are having issues
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12-21-2009, 11:25 PM #25
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12-21-2009, 11:30 PM #26
If you look at the mechanics of the front squat, then it is an exercise which will use a lot of quads and less posterior chain. It works less overall muscle, so it's a less valuable exercise for overall development, but there's no question it's a valuable exercise. I would not replace back squats with front squats, though I think people should do front squats once they are strong.
As for the person above saying that as a 'bodybuilding forum' that strength doesn't matter, if you think that only pure bodybuilders use the forum you're incorrect. Plenty of people who care more about their squat numbers than the crosshatching on their glutes post here, including me.GOMAD!
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12-21-2009, 11:34 PM #27
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12-21-2009, 11:38 PM #28
lol I would like an explanation if possible, but how does your core factor into your squat? Maybe I don't pay attention, very srs lol. You can respond or laugh at me, either or will do.
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12-21-2009, 11:49 PM #29
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Actually your core is playing a HUGE part in many of your lifts. Even lifts that are more isolated such as curls engage the core. The squat is a compound lift and as such engages a lot of different muscle groups whicih is why it is called one of the "muney" lifts for anyone looking to grow. You can actually "feel" the difference in a squat or a curl by releasing your abs and letting your back soften versus pushing your abs up through your back and holding the core strong. You will find that you have WAY more strength and stability by focusing on your core area when doing many lifts.
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