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    Question Need help for bulk (will rep)

    Hey i was doing madcows 5x5 for about 8-10 weeks gained 0 lbs of weight but all of my lifts went up greatly.. So now i started to do a 5 day split doing 2 muscles a day and doing 8-12 reps for excercises. Ive been eating 5-7 meals a day having 3000calories + but somehow when i weighed myself today i lost 1 pound ive went from my high of 154lbs to now 139lbs i used to go from 140 lbs to 150lbs in a span of a week or 2 but now all that happens in that span of 1 to 2 weeks i maybe will gain 1 pound but ill lose it. I eat the same amount or maybe even more then i did before to gain that weight.. All i want to do is be 185lbs or so for next year but im losing motivation because i workout hard and eat until i feel sick everyday and it looks like nothing is working can somebody help me ?
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    if you're not gaining weight you need to eat more
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    ye that doesnt really help im pretty sure i no that i have to eat more
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    Eat more man, i know the feeling im stuck at 178 at the minute, cant get the fukka to go up, just eat as much as you can, ano that nt what yoo want to hear but its the only way, good luck man!
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    then stfu and eat more faggot. you're the one asking stupid questions, dont get pissed when you get obvious answers.
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    Originally Posted by firekillex View Post
    ye that doesnt really help im pretty sure i no that i have to eat more
    Your metabolism sucks(is very, very good) so you need to eat a lot more if you're not gaining any weight at all.
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    Eat A LOT DURING BREAKFASt. Your body out of this state is ready to ingest a lot of calories since it was just in a state of rest. Have some that is slowly digested at night like casesin or perhaps cottage-cheese.

    What is your meal plan looking like? Also be honest with yourself. I find it hard to believe that taking 3000 cals wouldn't give you one pound. Impossible.
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    as above.. eating more will help of course.

    dont workout 5 days a week. lower your amount of sets and increase intensity. Pretty much try and reduce the amount of calories you are spending doing useless extra reps and replace them with quality, solid, intense sets.

    warmup to the weight you are going to use for your main set, load up the bar and ****ing go to town as hard as you can. if you have a spotter do some negatives and your set is done. stop and deload the bar and move on.

    i dont know what your cardio schedule looks like but... lower the amount of cardio you do it if you think you can.
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    Originally Posted by firekillex View Post
    Hey i was doing madcows 5x5 for about 8-10 weeks gained 0 lbs of weight but all of my lifts went up greatly.. So now i started to do a 5 day split doing 2 muscles a day and doing 8-12 reps for excercises. Ive been eating 5-7 meals a day having 3000calories + but somehow when i weighed myself today i lost 1 pound ive went from my high of 154lbs to now 139lbs i used to go from 140 lbs to 150lbs in a span of a week or 2 but now all that happens in that span of 1 to 2 weeks i maybe will gain 1 pound but ill lose it. I eat the same amount or maybe even more then i did before to gain that weight.. All i want to do is be 185lbs or so for next year but im losing motivation because i workout hard and eat until i feel sick everyday and it looks like nothing is working can somebody help me ?
    I was stuck at 167 for about a week, then i started drinking a gallon of milk a day along with a Whey protein shake when i wake up after i lift, and at night before bed, and now im up to 173. I have only been doing it for about a week and a half. hope it helps.
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    Originally Posted by firekillex View Post
    ye that doesnt really help im pretty sure i no that i have to eat more
    You obviously don't if you're not gaining weight? I learned to stop eating like a bitch and I've gained like 20lbs in 3 1/2 months.
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    My meal plan has been like this

    meal 1 - 2 packs oatmeal with some juice
    meal 2- pb and j sandwhich
    meal 3- Chicken burger with 500ml of chocolate milk
    meal 4- leftovers or like a hungryman at least 500 calories tho
    meal 5- 2 scoops muscle juice ( 700 calories )
    meal 6- dinner
    meal 7- 2 scoops muscle juice



    so your saying i should do a 4 day split with maybe 6-8 reps????
    and i dont really do any cardio i wanna gain mass first..
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    Originally Posted by firekillex View Post
    My meal plan has been like this

    meal 1 - 2 packs oatmeal with some juice
    meal 2- pb and j sandwhich
    meal 3- Chicken burger with 500ml of chocolate milk
    meal 4- leftovers or like a hungryman at least 500 calories tho
    meal 5- 2 scoops muscle juice ( 700 calories )
    meal 6- dinner
    meal 7- 2 scoops muscle juice



    so your saying i should do a 4 day split with maybe 6-8 reps????
    The reps should still be in the 8-12 range. whatever works best... if you can hit 12 on your main set then move the weight up next time. I am not sure what your workout schedule is now but if your doing things like warmup + 3x10 then cut it down to "good warmup" then 1 or maybe 2 "real" sets where you are going balls to the wall. intensity over volume should be your motto right now. It is better to do more weight with good form for one awesome set then to do sub-par weight for 3 sets of moderate intensity.
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    I was thinking doing like 8-10 reps for like 3 weeks then 1 week ill do 6 reps and go heavy.
    ill change my diet to :

    2 packs oatmeal + 1 scoop muscle juice
    2 scoops muslce juice + fruit or pb and j sandwhich
    chicken burger + 500ml chocolate milk
    leftovers
    2 scoops muscle juice
    dinner
    snack ( like pogos or cottage cheese something smaller )

    so i should do like a warmup set of 12 reps with little weight then i ramp it up to a set of 10 reps with more weight then 2 serious sets with 8 reps???

    and ill do legit reps no cheating but would it be alright to get a spot for like the last rep or 2 or no?
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    Originally Posted by firekillex View Post
    I was thinking doing like 8-10 reps for like 3 weeks then 1 week ill do 6 reps and go heavy.
    ill change my diet to :

    2 packs oatmeal + 1 scoop muscle juice
    2 scoops muslce juice + fruit or pb and j sandwhich
    chicken burger + 500ml chocolate milk
    leftovers
    2 scoops muscle juice
    dinner
    snack ( like pogos or cottage cheese something smaller )

    so i should do like a warmup set of 12 reps with little weight then i ramp it up to a set of 10 reps with more weight then 2 serious sets with 8 reps???

    and ill do legit reps no cheating but would it be alright to get a spot for like the last rep or 2 or no?
    That's not actually that much at all for a "hardgainer" you're only using half servings for your weight gainer so 1000 + whatever else you're eating, 3000ish calories?
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    meal 1 is like 500 calories
    meal 2 is like 850
    meal 3 is 500
    meal 4 is 500-600
    meal 5 is 700
    dinner would be around 600
    and snack at night would be 350-450




    just tell me what to do and ill do it up i just wanna gain mass
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    add a gallon of milk to your diet and report back
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    Originally Posted by firekillex View Post
    Hey i was doing madcows 5x5 for about 8-10 weeks gained 0 lbs of weight but all of my lifts went up greatly.. So now i started to do a 5 day split doing 2 muscles a day and doing 8-12 reps for excercises. Ive been eating 5-7 meals a day having 3000calories + but somehow when i weighed myself today i lost 1 pound ive went from my high of 154lbs to now 139lbs i used to go from 140 lbs to 150lbs in a span of a week or 2 but now all that happens in that span of 1 to 2 weeks i maybe will gain 1 pound but ill lose it. I eat the same amount or maybe even more then i did before to gain that weight.. All i want to do is be 185lbs or so for next year but im losing motivation because i workout hard and eat until i feel sick everyday and it looks like nothing is working can somebody help me ?
    youre not eating as much as you think you are, and if you are then you still need to eat more. Add a couple tbspns of olive oil to your shakes and drink milk along the day. Were you to drink half a gallon of milk a day and a few tbspns of olive oil, youd be getting in around an extra 1500 calories
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    add a gallon of milk to your diet and report back

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