Was it all about the money Keven Levrone?

[Mstrplnr]

Stop for a minute and think what does Kevin, any other bodybuilder, or anyone for that matter owe anyone else? Kevin is trying to make a living based on his skills, genetic potential, and determination. If he wants to charge $100 for a picture and you will pay it.. good for him. I personally would pay $100 for a picture with Arnold BECAUSE I FEEL IT IS WORTH IT. I would not pay $40 for a picture with Levrone, but I do not denegrate him for setting his price.

You are not entitled to a doctors time and experience simply because you feel you are owed it. This is a fundamental concept that many of us have gotten away from.

Read the following quote from Ayn Rand.. and really think about what it is saying.

"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine."

[agvares]

oh shi.... no more Rand's quotes, please!

[agvares]

is it a problem that kevin makes money ? are u communist or smtgh ?

lol,usually communists have no problems with making money.

[spamy]

oh shi.... no more Rand's quotes, please!

who's ayn rand? i hope it's not another motivational speaker or "how to improve yourself" crap.

[agvares]

who's ayn rand? i hope it's not another motivational speaker or "how to improve yourself" crap.

she's an extremely dumb bit.ch who somehow desided that her clear and bright mind is just what's needed to become a philosopher.

she wrote a lot of simplistic and overwhelmingly horrible stuff where she developed her considerations on the narute of good goverment\society etc.

her surprisingly retarted way of analizing the social reality (called objectivism) suddenly became extremely popular in USA among the influential financial groups, mentally deranged conservators and students of social science, who have experienced a severe brain damage.

although, she hates socialism "CAUSE IT's BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD"

[spamy]

she's an extremely dumb bit.ch who somehow desided that her clear and bright mind is just what's needed to become a philosopher.

she wrote a lot of simplistic and overwhelmingly horrible stuff where she developed her considerations on the narute of good goverment\society etc.

her surprisingly retarted way of analizing the social reality (called objectivism) suddenly became extremely popular in USA among the influential financial groups, mentally deranged conservators and students of social science, who have experienced a severe brain damage.

although, she hates socialism "CAUSE IT's BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD"

Thanks man for the explanations. Another wannabe philosopher who thinks that she discovered the universal truth.

[cramron]

"If you're good at something, never do it for free!" - The Joker

[CanuckTank]

As much as I think that Kevin is feeding a pure BS to his fanboys from the "Day one", OP fails wayyyyy more...

I agree with the statement including the line where Kevin is feeding the minions biscuits so they will follow him.

[Mstrplnr]

Too funny about all the bias towards Ayn Rand..

She was born in the Soviet Union in 1905 and grew up under communism, with none of the freedoms and liberties we enjoy here today. She came to this country at age 23 or so, because of the great freedom, to pursue a career as a playwright and author.

She developed a philosophy over time, based on Aristotle, that focused solely on reason, not emotion or mysticism. Her philosophy centered around the individual.. and against a communist or collective that limited personal freedoms or rights. She wrote two major novels, The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged, that are best sellers to this day.

I "heard" about Ayn Rand earlier this year and have read both of these novels. In my opinion, they are long but brilliant.

A couple of things to consider..

One of the most analytical bodybuilders, Mike Mentzer, was a fan of hers

Anytime a woman puts reason over emotion, we should all pay attention (sorry ladies)

Do we all believe that we will reach our goals if we wish for it long enough, or do we learn how to achieve the goals and work like hell to achieve them? Bodybuilders follow reason and rational thought every day.

[agvares]

Too funny about all the bias towards Ayn Rand..

She was born in the Soviet Union in 1905 and grew up under communism, with none of the freedoms and liberties we enjoy here today. She came to this country at age 23 or so, because of the great freedom, to pursue a career as a playwright and author.

She developed a philosophy over time, based on Aristotle, that focused solely on reason, not emotion or mysticism. Her philosophy centered around the individual.. and against a communist or collective that limited personal freedoms or rights. She wrote two major novels, The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged, that are best sellers to this day.

I "heard" about Ayn Rand earlier this year and have read both of these novels. In my opinion, they are long but brilliant.

A couple of things to consider..

One of the most analytical bodybuilders, Mike Mentzer, was a fan of hers

Anytime a woman puts reason over emotion, we should all pay attention (sorry ladies)

Do we all believe that we will reach our goals if we wish for it long enough, or do we learn how to achieve the goals and work like hell to achieve them? Bodybuilders follow reason and rational thought every day.

i'm sorry to dissapoint you, bro, but there were no Soviet Union before the 1917, obviously, she was born in the Russian Empire.

then again, bolshevistk's party were simply not communist, so you can't talk about "the communists" here.

before 30-s there was a Civil War, you know? there were a lot of liberty in the young Soviet Republic. 20-s became the peak of the new soviet culture, art, poetry, literature etc. (it all went down after Stalin managed to capture the power and Trotzky escaped).

making dichotomies like "individual — collective" is so simple minded and narrow that there's no special use to expand on that.

Politics\economics\metaphysics\logic — all that "chapters" of Aristotle's philosophy were waaaaaaaaaaaaaay much ahead from Rand's dumb waste of paper.

The fact that something sells good doesn't speak about the value of the thing itself. Jerry Springer and Oprah are huge, so what?

[musclePavel]

He charges $40 for a autographed picture, lmfao.

Ferrigno, you and your $20 don't have **** on Levrone.

are you fu.cking serious? daaaaaaaamn son!

[TheStiffmeister]

As much as I think that Kevin is feeding a pure BS to his fanboys from the "Day one", OP fails wayyyyy more...

same man, same, levrone is full of ****

[Findenn]

Inspiration is not a legal contract where results must be guaranteed. O.P has an outlook of a typical bitter loser in life who loves to blame successful ppl for their own crappy outcomes.

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This

[King-B]

So Ive been watching this Levrone report for some time now. It's fun watching those kind of videos about your favorite bodybuilder getting back to his old roots. When I was a kid, I remember buying flex magazines and reading them. I looked up to these type of people for there determination to succeed at what there doing. I thought wow, if they did all that through hard work so can I. All I was during that time was a naive 16 year old with a flex magazine.

Do you remember those days when you got inspired from seeing those articles on how to build big arms by Flex Wheeler. If you want a body like Markus Ruhl, take this supplement. You would see this in the magazine and think if I worked hard enough. Hopefully one day, I would get a body like Ruhl. Yet again, I was a naive little kid.

Later on, I started seeing the bullcrap for what it was. Pro Bodybuilders were cheating by taking all kinds of sh*t, Allot of the pros were also dieing from what t hey were taking too. The things they do on there off time would make any level headed individual sick in there stomach. Once I started seeing pro bodybuilder for what it is. Maturity set in and I realized that all pro bodybuilding was is bullsh*t.

Let me get to Keven.

When he lost his size. You could see it in the mans eyes at Expos. He wanted his pro bodybuilding fame back. He tried to do the Hollywood thing but that didn't work. Times have changed Levrone, nobody gives a sh*t about the Schwarzenegger body anymore; you missed the boat! Once Keven realized his movie career was over, he missed that attention. Only thing he ever accomplished was having one of the best bodies in IFBB. He missed all the fame he got from the people.

I thought it was cool that he went back to his old roots and picked himself up again. He did these workouts getting back in shape and inspiring others. I was one of them because at first. I thought he was doing it for the people but he wasn't. I wanted to believe in this guy. Is this what pro bodybuilding has become? Is it just about greed now? I know people are greedy but damn.

Levrone did all this not just for the people but for himself and his wallet. He never gave a sh*t about us. Watch the video, I'm about to show. If your not ignorant and Im not trying to say that in a bad way. You'll see through his bullsh*t. All those lifts he did wasn't supposed to inspire. It was supposed to feed our admiration to bait us in pretty much. Once we got to that point he figured we would buy any damn thing he sells.


Does anybody really give a crap about anybody anymore. I think it sucks when anybody tries to pull the sheep's clothing over themselves and tells you to follow. I can understand why some people would follow. You think by following your gonna get some kind of knowledge from this guy. Once you realized that all along it was a bunch of crap. That you will learn that allot of people like Levrone is only in it for themselves. That's what your gonna learn.

First of all nobody has ever really given a crap about anybody, ever, from the beginning of time. Don't put any faith in men, you will just be disappointed. Of course, there are good people that do good things, but they are few and far between. Start of by assuming everyone is in it for themselves, and you can be pleasantly surprised if they aren't.

Next, I started learning about bodybuilding when I was about 14 and I never believed any of the stupid magazine claims and lame supplement pushers. If you can't see through that kind of thing by early adolescence, you've got a tough road ahead of you.

[fmrmarineinbiz]

Wa wa waaaait. You think working your tail off, and then exploiting EVERY means necessary to be THE BEST, and actually be able to COMPETE with the others in your sport is CHEATING?? What planet are you from? What kind of TRUE competitor accepts his fate, and says ''oh well, guess I'll just accept my genetic limits....''??? Anybody with half a brain realizes the guys in the IFBB use steroids, GH, IGF, Insulin, pain meds, and anything else that will help them get that extra 1% more than the next guy out of their hard work. People love winners, but nobody wants to accept (at least publicly in front of others) that their ''hero'' might ''cheat'' in their eyes. It's acceptable for someones' hero to bust their tail on the field, but NOT to also pop a couple shots a week of testosterone to give them that extra edge. Winners win no matter what the cost. Suck it up, or take up a new hobby.

[AmericanBulldog]

I swear, most of you are a bunch of sheep. Follow the shepherd lackeys.

[gomez26]

I swear, most of you are a bunch of sheep. Follow the shepherd lackeys.

Nah, they just dont take it as seriously as you do. WHat he does & how he does it may be cool to watch, but it aint drastically affected anyone's life except yours obviously. But dont worry. We'll counsel you through it

[TeeR4v_Gainer]

I swear, most of you are a bunch of sheep. Follow the shepherd lackeys.

so who do u look up to or watch to get inspired or motivated? i bet that person also makes money for what they are doing. for instance ronnie charges a grand a weekend for some workout advice. are the ronnie fans all sheep as well?

[fmrmarineinbiz]

so who do u look up to or watch to get inspired or motivated? i bet that person also makes money for what they are doing. for instance ronnie charges a grand a weekend for some workout advice. are the ronnie fans all sheep as well?

*Drools* Just a grand a weekend is all?? I'm down! Yea buddy! Baaa baaaa baaa!

[Rambo26]

she's an extremely dumb bit.ch who somehow desided that her clear and bright mind is just what's needed to become a philosopher.

she wrote a lot of simplistic and overwhelmingly horrible stuff where she developed her considerations on the narute of good goverment\society etc.

her surprisingly retarted way of analizing the social reality (called objectivism) suddenly became extremely popular in USA among the influential financial groups, mentally deranged conservators and students of social science, who have experienced a severe brain damage.

although, she hates socialism "CAUSE IT's BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD"

1) Learn to spell
2) You're an idiot

[agvares]

1) Learn to spell
2) You're an idiot

1) i kinda do it all the time
2) strong proof, bro

[Darren in Gym]

oh OP, this is pro bodybuilding, every stunt and gimic in the spot is designed to generate extra income. expecially when it involved retired pros, who would otherwise have to make a living based solely on fitness counselling lol

[chris423]

is it a problem that kevin makes money ? are u communist or smtgh ? .. just asking as personally I think this is quite normal after all the videos and dedicated times for his fans.
this is pointless.


[EDIT] and yes i will probably buy one tshirt just to thanks him..

This^ The first thing I thought of when reading the OP whining that Levrone should be "doing it for the people" is that OP is a big whiny pile of socialist crap.

[chris423]

she's an extremely dumb bit.ch who somehow desided that her clear and bright mind is just what's needed to become a philosopher.

she wrote a lot of simplistic and overwhelmingly horrible stuff where she developed her considerations on the narute of good goverment\society etc.

her surprisingly retarted way of analizing the social reality (called objectivism) suddenly became extremely popular in USA among the influential financial groups, mentally deranged conservators and students of social science, who have experienced a severe brain damage.

although, she hates socialism "CAUSE IT's BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD"

Are you a fan of socialism? Are you also a fan of armed robbery? Socialism is redistribution of wealth by the government that is ultimately backed up by force or arms, basically armed robbery.

[Whey Hey]

[pharmamarketer]

I swear, most of you are a bunch of sheep. Follow the shepherd lackeys.

Interesting that you say that and then your quote at the bottom is "This is Sparta" Talk about sheep following the shephard. That bearded ass face led them right to their death. And they followed like a bunch of skirted sheep. And for what? So maybe you should put a quote their that applies more to a loaner doing things by themselves. Like Thoreau. He sat at a lake by himself and wrote about the grass and counted bugs.

I say that people can charge what they want for anything they want. If you don't like it don't pay. And yes, if most of us could make money on a song or a signature, we would.

[agvares]

Are you a fan of socialism? Are you also a fan of armed robbery? Socialism is redistribution of wealth by the government that is ultimately backed up by force or arms, basically armed robbery.

any kind of modern socio-economical system combines different elements of different types of social organization.

socialism (though you can't find a pure socialism anywhere) isn't based solely on the redistribution of wealth, rather than upon the idea of supporting the citizens and allowing them to achieve the minimal level of income no matter what (that things depend not only on wealth). In this way yeah, i'm a fan of socialism. Just can't see anything wrong with it.

Any goverment relies on army and police to keep its power. Moreover, every goverment redistributes wealth in one way or another.

Economics, sociology and politics are pretty complex issues, you can't just pick an extremely "pure" variant of socialism\free market\communism etc. and ignore all the drawbacks.

Unlike that, Rand creates a strong dichotomy between a good social formation, her ideal society, and all the others. That only works if you're a 12 y.o. conservator who sees the world and all the human history through the black\white filter of your ethic categories.

[Pump Freak 86]

Lol at pro bodybuilders cheating by not publicly incriminating themselves for our informational benefit.


You win one intarwebz :-) !!!

[paoloex19]

Hahah welcome to the real world.....no one gives a **** about you thats life sorry ...but you've got a lot to learn obviously! The day i realized that was the day things became clear and i was able to find a true motivation in myself!

[Rambo26]

any kind of modern socio-economical system combines different elements of different types of social organization.

socialism (though you can't find a pure socialism anywhere) isn't based solely on the redistribution of wealth, rather than upon the idea of supporting the citizens and allowing them to achieve the minimal level of income no matter what (that things depend not only on wealth). In this way yeah, i'm a fan of socialism. Just can't see anything wrong with it.

Any goverment relies on army and police to keep its power. Moreover, every goverment redistributes wealth in one way or another.

Economics, sociology and politics are pretty complex issues, you can't just pick an extremely "pure" variant of socialism\free market\communism etc. and ignore all the drawbacks.

Unlike that, Rand creates a strong dichotomy between a good social formation, her ideal society, and all the others. That only works if you're a 12 y.o. conservator who sees the world and all the human history through the black\white filter of your ethic categories.

I'm afraid "It's complicated" isn't a trump card, nor is smearing "black and white" judgements.

Reality is in fact black and white as there are no contradictions.

The argument from status quo is also invalid, slavery was universally practiced, this didn't make it acceptable.