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    Exclamation Feeling ill, could this be ketosis?

    OK I am really confused in a big way and need to try and work out why I could be feeling ill.

    I started dieting 3 weeks ago, mainly lowed calories to 1500 a day and cut out all the rubbish I used to eat, like chocolate, sugar (like in my hot drinks also other rubbish), but even though my cals are lower I eat better and 3 meals instead of one and cr@p.

    So last week I started to feel:

    * Slight Headache
    * Dizziness
    * Nausea
    * Some stomach ache

    I have other systems that are hard to explain.

    Now I have been doctors and explained last Thursday, and due to problems with anxiety in the past and me being agoraphobic, the doctor thinks its me just having a wobble (just bad anxiety)

    But I am starting to think its not, and I just am worried.

    I get the Dizziness and Nausea all day, so I have been reading the forums and could only see Ketosis to be close to what I am dealing with?

    Any one got any idea?
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    I would put money that you're just experiencing sugar withdrawal. Just keep at it for a few more days and it will go away.


    But you should listen to your doctor. They went to school for 8 ****ing years dude.
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    LOL docs, I have 3 where I go and if you see one then another they both contradicted each other.

    Can sugar withdrawals really go on this long though?
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    Originally Posted by madkad View Post
    LOL docs, I have 3 where I go and if you see one then another they both contradicted each other.
    Just saw that you're from the UK, my bad.
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    The few times that I've done a ketogenic diet, the onset of ketosis was accompanied by the following:

    1) Lethargy
    2) Mild headache
    3) Lack of focus
    4) Basically, just not feeling "one with the universe" - out of sorts, I guess
    Also, my saliva tasted like Juicy-Fruit chewing gum.

    No nausea, no stomach ache. And the symptoms subsided after a couple days, to the point that I just felt mildly out of it and kind of weak.

    The nausea and stomach ache has me wondering.

    Is your diet truly a ketogenic one (i.e. essentially void of simple and starchy carbs)? Or just low calories without junk food?
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    Go down to your local pharm and pick up some ketone test strips to make sure.
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    Originally Posted by csb5731 View Post
    The few times that I've done a ketogenic diet, the onset of ketosis was accompanied by the following:

    1) Lethargy
    2) Mild headache
    3) Lack of focus
    4) Basically, just not feeling "one with the universe" - out of sorts, I guess
    Also, my saliva tasted like Juicy-Fruit chewing gum.

    No nausea, no stomach ache. And the symptoms subsided after a couple days, to the point that I just felt mildly out of it and kind of weak.

    The nausea and stomach ache has me wondering.

    Is your diet truly a ketogenic one (i.e. essentially void of simple and starchy carbs)? Or just low calories without junk food?
    Well this is a typical days food for me at the moment, so unsure lol, I just was looking at the symptoms (note cals look low but it lowers the count after adding the exercise in)





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    Go down to your local pharm and pick up some ketone test strips to make sure.
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    I don't think you're in ketosis. You're taking in too many carbs for that to happen.

    edit: you can really jog at 9 mph for 20 minutes? That's not even a jog, that is full out running.
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    Originally Posted by TheAsianPlayboy View Post
    I don't think you're in ketosis. You're taking in too many carbs for that to happen.

    edit: you can really jog at 9 mph for 20 minutes? That's not even a jog, that is full out running.
    EDIT: the jog/ run lol its just the only way the program takes it in, I do run at 11mph - 12mph for 2 mins then rest at 3mph for around 1min and run again so I did an average, prob well high lol

    Well that's good to know, just need to know what's wrong with me know then

    Could it be just the fact that I cut out the real sugar,

    Like 10 - 12+ tea spoons of it a day?
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    Most likely, Sounds like you did dramatically change your diet and that will definately change the way you feel for the first few days. Don't stress about it too much. You'll be fine most likely. If you still feel crappy after like 2 weeks though, then I would try to figure out what's going on.

    Nice work with the cardio. I am always amazed by how bigger people are able to run so fast and long on a treadmill.
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    Originally Posted by TheAsianPlayboy View Post
    Most likely, Sounds like you did dramatically change your diet and that will definately change the way you feel for the first few days. Don't stress about it too much. You'll be fine most likely. If you still feel crappy after like 2 weeks though, then I would try to figure out what's going on.

    Nice work with the cardio. I am always amazed by how bigger people are able to run so fast and long on a treadmill.

    OK well I will see how thing go for a little longer.

    LOL I worked up to that, I started running weeks back but broke my hand and I got out of it, then when I got back into it I seemed to be able to run better lol, don't get me wrong I look like a man running for his life, noises and all lol
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    Hey im sorry to interrupt your conversation but what is that program you are using to track your calories with?
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    Program looks like Calorieking.
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    You should still be careful dude....

    I have terrible cutting genetics for example...did blood work and several thing where ****ed up.

    Testosterone production halted.


    Looks like things are back up...but still always be careful...dunno what ketosis side effectds are, but you could take some blood tests..
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    Originally Posted by madkad View Post
    OK I am really confused in a big way and need to try and work out why I could be feeling ill.

    I started dieting 3 weeks ago, mainly lowed calories to 1500 a day and cut out all the rubbish I used to eat, like chocolate, sugar (like in my hot drinks also other rubbish), but even though my cals are lower I eat better and 3 meals instead of one and cr@p.

    So last week I started to feel:

    * Slight Headache
    * Dizziness
    * Nausea
    * Some stomach ache

    I have other systems that are hard to explain.

    Now I have been doctors and explained last Thursday, and due to problems with anxiety in the past and me being agoraphobic, the doctor thinks its me just having a wobble (just bad anxiety)

    But I am starting to think its not, and I just am worried.

    I get the Dizziness and Nausea all day, so I have been reading the forums and could only see Ketosis to be close to what I am dealing with?

    Any one got any idea?


    I get tired SOMETIMES from my Keto diet and I have 20 carbs per day (from green veggies)....you get way more carbs than I do so I am not to sure where your symptoms are coming from. You may be just going through changes from eating one way to another. The first month I was on this I was a little "out there" but now I am fine. Would not have it any other way. There is NO way you are in Ketosis with that amount of carbs you are taking in . I did not go into it until I was under 25 grams of carbs per day. If I were you I would get on a real Keto diet...that has higher carbs to protein ratio. That could be PART of the issue. Where the heck did you get that diet? Not being mean...but I would not touch it at all.It is all sugar and starch except for the tuna and eggs. Read labels. Do research. E mail me if you want some suggestions.
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    With that many carbs there's no way you'd be going into ketosis so i doubt that is the cause.

    From what i know - a lot of the bodies toxins are stored in fat, when you eat badly for a long time toxins are stored here. Once you start eating healthy/in calarie deficit, these toxins are released/purged from your body as you burn the fat in which they are stored.. After a while you will feel normal. Stick at it, this is the point at which a lot of people give up.
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    Thanks for all the replies.

    It is calorie king the software.

    It probably just my body wondering where all the cr@p foods are and needing to get used to it then, I have eaten rubbish most of my life and never cut any of it out.

    Dont get me wrong with my diet I didn't get it from anywhere, I just cut the cr@p out that I eat and keeping my cals low, and eating 3 meals a day, they may not look great meals but its a hell of allot better than I used to eat trust me lol

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    Just so you know that is a really crappy breakfast dude.
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    Just saw that you're from the UK, my bad.
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    1,500 kcals is too low.

    Eat more food - fruit & veg does not appear on your food diary.

    You can eat more - fill your plate up with lots of different vegetables !
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    I know lol lots of fruit & veg, I do eat them, that what you see is just a day I didnt, I eat fruit & veg on other days, lots more than I used to and mainly veg.

    But don't worry I am looking into a diet change
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    Just to let everybody know what is wrong with me lol

    I went to the docs and explained how I was feeling and what I am doing etc, they said its just very high anxiety (I suffer with ergophobia) so they said stick at it and fight it.

    Yes that's my f@cking life my brain is a pussy and cant cope with life and I have to work hard to sort it, if I fail it goes worse if I win it get it in another dam form
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