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    Hypothetical: if God was proven to exist... (serious thread)

    Just say that it was definitively proven that God exists, and by extension, so does the devil, heaven, hell and all that good stuff. Would you continue in your ways, i.e. sleeping around, doing drugs, being rude, insulting people, essentially committing sins, knowing there was a hell or would you try and become 'righteous'.
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    why not just do bad **** then atone later? he is a sucker for that forgiveness sh*t

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    what kind of question is this?

    anyone that says they would continue living a life of sin when they have 100% certainty of it leading to their eternal torment is a complete moron.

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    Originally Posted by Frizzel View Post
    Just say that it was definitively proven that God exists, and by extension, so does the devil, heaven, hell and all that good stuff. Would you continue in your ways, i.e. sleeping around, doing drugs, being rude, insulting people, essentially committing sins, knowing there was a hell or would you try and become 'righteous'.



    If he came down from the sky, I'd obviously believe in him because there would be proof right in my face. However, I would not worship him. I'd be forced to say "well hey, I believe in you now, but I can't worship you. I'm afraid I don't really agree with some of the choices you make. We have a very different moral code, and you do some pretty douchebag things. Hey, you know all those starving kids in the world? Yeah, all them. Yeah, you know how on of them dies every 5 seconds from starvation? Why don't you go feed some of them instead of worry about whether or not I'm kissing your ass and boosting your ego or not".



    Btw, dead srs. Just because I lived in North Korea wouldn't mean I would swing from the nuts of Kim Jung Il and think he's a cool guy, offering him my praises and whatnot, because he expected it. If your leader is a little sht, your leader is a little sht, regardless of divine status.
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    He'd be able to read my mind and know that I think he's a dickhead so I'd probably go to hell no matter what........so bring on the hookers and coke!
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    Originally Posted by lzer00nel View Post
    why not just do bad **** then atone later? he is a sucker for that forgiveness sh*t
    Be thankful that you can be forgiven; however, you are not truly forgiven until you get the blood applied to your life . Be buried(baptized) in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins. This is how to apply that same blood that He shed for us to your own life.
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    Originally Posted by sothrowedmex View Post
    Be thankful that you can be forgiven; however, you are not truly forgiven until you get the blood applied to your life . Be buried(baptized) in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins. This is how to apply that same blood that He shed for us to your own life.
    wait what? they can bury me with upside down with flowers up my ass for all i care. doesnt sound like a bad deal at all

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    Originally Posted by sothrowedmex View Post
    Be thankful that you can be forgiven; however, you are not truly forgiven until you get the blood applied to your life . Be buried(baptized) in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins. This is how to apply that same blood that He shed for us to your own life.
    Sounds like brain wash.

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    Originally Posted by MrAWatts View Post
    If he came down from the sky, I'd obviously believe in him because there would be proof right in my face. However, I would not worship him. I'd be forced to say "well hey, I believe in you now, but I can't worship you. I'm afraid I don't really agree with some of the choices you make. We have a very different moral code, and you do some pretty douchebag things. Hey, you know all those starving kids in the world? Yeah, all them. Yeah, you know how on of them dies every 5 seconds from starvation? Why don't you go feed some of them instead of worry about whether or not I'm kissing your ass and boosting your ego or not".
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    Yes, because simply proving god exists doesn't prove which religion is correct if any.
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    I would continue my sinful ways.

    u mad?

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    Originally Posted by Frizzel View Post
    Just say that it was definitively proven that God exists, and by extension, so does the devil, heaven, hell and all that good stuff. Would you continue in your ways, i.e. sleeping around, doing drugs, being rude, insulting people, essentially committing sins, knowing there was a hell or would you try and become 'righteous'.
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    Originally Posted by Frizzel View Post
    Just say that it was definitively proven that God exists, and by extension, so does the devil, heaven, hell and all that good stuff. Would you continue in your ways, i.e. sleeping around, doing drugs, being rude, insulting people, essentially committing sins, knowing there was a hell or would you try and become 'righteous'.
    misc would sieze to exist thats all i know
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    Originally Posted by relobe View Post
    if it was proven that if i continued to sin i would suffer for eternity, yes i would change


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    Serious tag added.

    Im not preaching anything or looking to change anyone. Just genuinely curious if people would committ sin knowing they would face an eternity in hell.

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    Originally Posted by MrAWatts View Post
    If he came down from the sky, I'd obviously believe in him because there would be proof right in my face. However, I would not worship him. I'd be forced to say "well hey, I believe in you now, but I can't worship you. I'm afraid I don't really agree with some of the choices you make. We have a very different moral code, and you do some pretty douchebag things. Hey, you know all those starving kids in the world? Yeah, all them. Yeah, you know how on of them dies every 5 seconds from starvation? Why don't you go feed some of them instead of worry about whether or not I'm kissing your ass and boosting your ego or not".



    Btw, dead srs. Just because I lived in North Korea wouldn't mean I would swing from the nuts of Kim Jung Il and think he's a cool guy, offering him my praises and whatnot, because he expected it. If your leader is a little sht, your leader is a little sht, regardless of divine status.


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    Originally Posted by sunyatasamsara View Post
    I would continue my sinful ways.

    u mad?

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    Narrow minded? In OP's hypothetical situation we are 100% certain that God exists. You'd be a complete idiot to continue living a life of immorality.

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    Originally Posted by Frizzel View Post
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    Im not preaching anything or looking to change anyone. Just genuinely curious if people would committ sin knowing they would face an eternity in hell.


    Yes people would still committ sin..People sin that believe in God 100%.
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    Originally Posted by tbonez3858 View Post
    There are hundreds of different views on God..It amuses me when someone brings up the viewpoint that God is to blame for everything bad that happens.


    The question of God and suffering.


    Is God willing to prevent evil but not able? Then God is impotent
    Is God able but not willing? Then God is malevolent
    Is God both able and willing? From whence then is evil?



    There is suffering in the world, that is undeniable. If he wants the best for his people, and he can do anything on a whim, he could stop it. But he doesn't. If you try to justify the suffering of others by saying it is punishment for sin, they deserve it, etc, then you are just as sick as your deity and your brainwashed argument is invalid.
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    Originally Posted by captainhorseboy View Post
    so many people base their entire life on this "just in case" principle



    Yeah, Pascals Wager. Which is flawed to hell, and does nothing other than give the idiot using it some false sense of comfort.
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    Originally Posted by captainhorseboy View Post
    so many people base their entire life on this "just in case" principle
    Pretty sure the ones who actually believe are living their life differently. The ones who are just hedging their bets are probably not much different than anyone else. They're just doing the minimum to scrape by.
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    Originally Posted by captainhorseboy View Post
    so many people base their entire life on this "just in case" principle
    Not necessarily. I dont know a single person who lives by that principle.

    I think its the strength of faith for many and fear of punishment for some.

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    Yes people would still committ sin..People sin that believe in God 100%.
    Exactly why I started this thread. Im one of those people although Im trying to change my ways.

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    Actually, by this thread alone we can conclude that people who believe in God are actually worse people than people who don't.

    Why?

    If it was certain that God exists and you would be punished for all your wrong doings, the people who didn't believe in God would change. Would do good, even if they were doing good already.

    People who believe in God don't even do good themselves.

    What does this mean?

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